Talk:Uitenhage
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[edit]uitenhage has the oldest mosque in south africa called masjid al qudama
The spelling pronunciations and IPA were a complete mismatch. Can someone verify? kwami (talk) 22:53, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
- No idea, but [øjtənˈhɑːxə] was probably meant to be [œytənˈhɑːxə], given orthographic "ui". Lfh (talk) 21:30, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
- There are two commonly used pronunciations in South Africa for this town name, an Afrikaans pronunciation and an English one. Though each is more commonly use in their respective languages, both occasionally gets used when speaking Afrikaans or English. Unfortunately my knowledge of IPA is far to limited to provide examples. --NJR_ZA (talk) 22:34, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
- This YouTube movie contains the English version spoken by two different speakers --NJR_ZA (talk) 23:22, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for the link. The article does already have both English and Afrikaans pronunciations, and the English one is consistent with that video, so I'll remove the "dubious" tag. Lfh (talk) 12:47, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
- This YouTube movie contains the English version spoken by two different speakers --NJR_ZA (talk) 23:22, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
- There are two commonly used pronunciations in South Africa for this town name, an Afrikaans pronunciation and an English one. Though each is more commonly use in their respective languages, both occasionally gets used when speaking Afrikaans or English. Unfortunately my knowledge of IPA is far to limited to provide examples. --NJR_ZA (talk) 22:34, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
- Re. Afrikaans - the Afrikaans article gives [a] for orthographic "a".
But that would just be guessing on my part, which is why I didn't remove the tag initially.Let's trust the article and change it to that. Lfh (talk) 13:02, 12 January 2010 (UTC)- Looking at IPA chart for English dialects and keeping in mind my lack of IPA knowledge, I think it is more like [a:] than [a] in Afrikaans. Actually, it is like the "aa" in Afrikaans. The "a" is a longer sound and the "e" at then end is silent. Will see if I can possibly get an online link--NJR_ZA (talk) 13:38, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
Official renaming to Kariega
[edit]In terms of WP:OFFICIAL and WP:COMMONNAME, the name should not be changed until it is consistently reflected in WP:RS. Wikipedia should not be used to promote a new place name, but to reflect its existing usage. It isn't a place for advocacy, or to establish "facts on the ground" WP:SOAP. Park3r (talk) 01:12, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
Requested move 31 March 2022
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: not moved. (non-admin closure) NW1223 <Howl at me•My hunts> 20:56, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
Uitenhage → Kariega – Name has been changed for over a year and reliable sources regularly use the current name.
Kariega-born comic returns to spread smiles in the Bay - 30 Mar 2022
April Fools Comedy Jam at Kariega - 31 Mar 2022
Kariega singer dedicates set to late mom - 18 Mar 2022
Furious Kariega residents dump their garbage outside rubbish collectors’ homes - 18 Mar 2022
VWSA appoints new HR boss in Kariega - 16 Mar 2022
Former secretary at Kariega attorney firm sentenced to house arrest and community service for theft - 26 Mar 2022
Seven arrested after Rocklands, Kariega robbery spree - 7 Mar 2022
Kariega police search for missing teen - 24 Mar 2022
Police fire rubber bullets at protesters at Provincial Hospital in Kariega - 10 Mar 2022
These are a diverse range of sources from multiple news outlets. Dates are included to show consistent and recent usage. Desertambition (talk) 08:02, 31 March 2022 (UTC)— Relisting. Spekkios (talk) 19:42, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose; per WP:COMMONNAME - Google Scholar gives four times the results for Uitenhage since 2021 than it does for Karaiga. Google News shows no preference for either. Google Trends shows that Uitenhage is preferred in search terms, including in South Africa. BilledMammal (talk) 08:19, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose; per WP:COMMONNAME as per BilledMammal. A few of these name changes slipped under the radar like Makhanda, South Africa, but we do need to stick to policy. 12:32, 7 April 2022 (UTC)