Talk:United States presidential elections in New York

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Fusion parties

Given New York's fusion rules, this article could benefit from listing all the parties nominating the various candidates in each year. Timrollpickering 17:33, 21 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Timrollpickering: That could be included in the notes parameter, or footnoted. BD2412 T 16:38, 2 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Chronological order

Regarding my recent edits, all these lists should be in proper chronological order. There is no reason an encyclopedia would have a list written backwards. This is not a newspaper, and should not be subject to WP:Recentism (@BD2412 and JayCoop: Pinging recent editors for their opinions and support.) —GoldRingChip

Reverted for discussion. More recent elections receive far more pageviews, indicating that they are the subject of substantially greater reader interest. We should present the information that the readers are most interested in first. This is one of a series of fifty-one articles on elections by state, and they should be kept consistent in their presentation, and not revised on an individual basis. They have a long-established layout, and there should be a centralized discussion establishing consensus for a change to this presentation for all of them. BD2412 T 16:20, 2 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Those are 2 arguments: A) should they be backwards?; and B) should they be consistent? I agree that they should be consistent, and I suppose that's why you reverted until we get consensus. But I propose that we get that consensus. As for the order, WP:Recentism sort of addresses this, but not completely. Most articles on historical events, especially those with lists, are in chronological order. Just, for example, List of presidents of the United States starts with Washington. —GoldRingChip 00:16, 3 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

There is another way that starting with the most recent election produces consistency across the articles. For all of those that conform to this pattern, you see the same election at the top, that of 2020. Before this election, the 2016 election was at the top of every page. It doesn't work the other way, since the states were admitted at different points in history. A handful would start with the first elections held after the American Revolution (which are very different, because they preceded use of the popular vote to assign electors); some would start in elections of the 1830s or the 1850s, prior to the paradigm shift of the Civil War; some would start in the 1870s or 1880s or 1910s; a few would start later than that. Right now, you see the same structure as soon as you open any page, and that only works where all the states are arranged to begin with elections in which all the states have participated. BD2412 T 01:28, 3 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

That's an interesting point. But I suggest that first-to-last would still work because they would consistently have 2020 elections at the bottom. Should we change all the congressional district articles to list their members backwards for the same reason? —GoldRingChip 14:34, 3 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Are we going to implement some function by which these pages open at the bottom rather than the top? I'm talking about consistency in appearance across these pages when they open. How will this be achieved? BD2412 T 16:16, 3 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]