Talk:Uzbekistan

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Jews in Uzbekistan[edit]

This article states that "According to local traditions Jews began to settle in the area 2,000 years ago after the exile from the kingdom of Israel by the Babylonians" but this doesn't quite make sense and is unsourced. The Babylonian exile was about 600 BC, and the Romans expelled the Jews around 70 AD. Based on the wording it is probably referring to the former. However, the Babylonian empire ceased to exist in the 500s BC. The Kingdom of Israel however was destroyed by the Assyrians prior to the Babylonian exile, it was the Kingdom of Judah that was exiled. Anyway, this should be clarified and sourced. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.206.186.174 (talk) 14:16, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

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Languages and religion[edit]

@Lingveno: I added the sourced information, the source you are removing, a secondary source confirms that Islam is religion of Uzbekistan, you are replacing the secondary source with "Constitution of Uzbekistan", which is a primary source. The BBC source is an English language source and mentions both Russian and Tajik as other languages after the Uzbek. It does not distinguish which language is mostly used. Its also factually wrong that Russians comprise of 5.4% of the population but their language is spoken by 70%. You need to push the stop button and discuss that matter instead of continuing your changes. Further continuation of changes without discussion would be considered an edit-war. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 15:22, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

No, that is true. Firstly, of you lived in Uzbekistan, you would know that. Secondly, BBC is not a source for the religion. Uzbekistan officially is secular and that is written in the constitution. In addition, people are not allowed to wear burkas in Uzbekistan, go to the mosques when they are kids, because the country is truly secular. About the prime language - please add sources written by linguists and people who are trusted in Central Asia Studies, and not journalists. All the best, Lingveno (talk) 15:26, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
Does freedom of religion means that the state has any religion? No. It means that it is secular. Besides, if you knew Russian, you would read the date provided in the sources which I have added - it is written that 90% of people studying in academic lyceums (prestigious type of high school) study in Russian as a prime language. There is a minority studying in Tajik. --Lingveno (talk) 15:30, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
I don't need to live in Uzbekistan to edit an article about Uzbekistan. Secondly, your arguments about invalidating the BBC source has no value. BBC is considered a WP:RS and is a secondary source and it does clearly say Islam being Uzbekistan's religion. Constitution is a primary source and is an uninterpretted one. It doesn't matter to Wikipedia how actually the life is on the ground in Uzbekistan. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 15:35, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
How Islam is an official religion when by the law it is not? I can give you thousands of references saying clearly that Uzbekistan is secular - [1][2][3][4] --Lingveno (talk) 15:41, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
Secularism is not a religion. The religion field in the infobox template is not for what the constitution says. It's for the religion of people residing inside that state. You have languages and ethnicities in the infobox, do you think the Constitutuin of Uzbekistan says that Russian language is for inter-ethnic communication and should be mostly used in the country and the constitution mentions all the ethnicities and their percentages? Why the double standard when it comes to religion field?
You also restored a piece of text in "Jewish community" section which is in violation of copyrights. Jewish population is only few thousand in Uzbekistan, why do we have such a huge section describing their history. That much is giving an undue weight in a country article. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 21:56, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

References

I gave you sources for Russian as a main language. --Lingveno (talk) 05:17, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

Aral Sea Size/Volume[edit]

In the Environment section there is this statement concerning the Aral Sea: "it has shrunk to less than 50% of its former area and decreased in volume threefold." This is nonsensical. Could someone with knowledge of the Aral Sea please correct the statement about its decrease in volume? Is it one third of its former volume? Does "threefold" refer to its current volume, meaning that now it is one fourth of its former volume? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.12.143.51 (talk) 14:28, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

REQUEST: can anyone add some information about Ishkor, a ceramic glaze from Uzbekistan?[edit]

This is an ancient glaze made by burning dried herbs in a special way (and I believe there is more to the process); the plant matter contains minerals from the soil, that are responsible for the colors. There is an extensive volume on Google Books, Conservation of Ancient Sites on the Silk Road. (No, I am NOT qualified to do this!!) Martha (talk) 18:59, 6 February 2017 (UTC)