Talk:Valentinian II

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I've removed one of the links - it was just a link to a page of adverts--Snozzbert12 00:13, 18 February 2007 (UTC)


I have rewritten the article, expanding, adding and correcting as necessary, as well as removing redundancies and duplications. --Iacobus (talk) 02:35, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Pontifex Maximus[edit]

I've removed the box listing Valentinian in the succession of the office of Pontifex Maximus. Thus far I can find no reference which states that he ever held that title, although this may not be surprising, since he was a minor emperor. I will continue to research the subject. Of course, any coin or inscription which shows him bearing that title includes him in the list.--Iacobus (talk) 00:33, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Correct. That's because it switched over to the popes in 360. Student7 (talk) 01:19, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
Do you have any reference for that date?--Iacobus (talk) 05:30, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
(Hope this isn't a blog!) Pointer to 360 date, Gratian, Pope Damasus I. Actually I had the date wrong. It was 376. The "360" may have started some kind of interim period. The popes at the time were more concerned with Arianism and maybe becoming "Pontifex" was no big deal.Student7 (talk) 15:23, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for that link. I have an article from an academic journal which suggests 383, other proposed dates being 379 or after. I would prefer the journal article to the unreferenced article you link to. Either way, there is no mention of Valentinian bearing the PM title, and every indication that Gratian refused it. It looks like a grey area, not helped by a confused date given by the only ancient source. I'll continue to leave Valentinian out of that title unless documentation proves otherwise.--Iacobus (talk) 05:04, 25 January 2008 (UTC)


He had two sisters Galla and Justa

And in the last section:

mourned by his sisters Julia and Grata

I believe Valentinianus had three sisters: Galla (wife of Theososius), Justa and Grata (their niece Galla Placidia probably named after them her daughter Justa Grata Honoria).

Can you cite any references? That might lend some authority to the issue.--Iacobus (talk) 05:59, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Flavius Valentinianus Junior[edit]

I have never seen this emperor refered to as "Junior" before. Do you have any sources for making this amendment? I am happy to defer to credible references, but it looks a little suspect to me.--Iacobus (talk) 23:03, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

In the absence of any reply, I have deleted this title. Please reinstate if references can be provided (probably best to do so in discussion page).--Iacobus (talk) 00:18, 30 September 2009 (UTC)


I have undone an edit which capitalised augustus. This may seem a bit nit-picky and fussy. I have done so because the term is used as a title, not as a name. Although "Augustus" was included in the nomenclature of Roman emperors, its real meaning was that it was the term used for a senior emperor. In Diocletian's system (still in modified use in Valentinian's time) the term for a senior emperor was augustus, and for a junior emperor caesar (see Augustus (honorific). So when Valentinian was acclaimed augustus, it was equivalent to calling him "emperor." This would not normally be capitalised in English, so I have also not capitalised augustus. I have italicised augustus to show that it is a foreign word, a late Roman Latin word that should be translated "emperor" or "senior emperor" in English.--Iacobus (talk) 00:15, 30 September 2009 (UTC)