Talk:Victorian architecture

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search
WikiProject England (Rated Start-class, High-importance)
WikiProject icon This article is within the scope of WikiProject England, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of England on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.
Start-Class article Start  This article has been rated as Start-Class on the project's quality scale.
 High  This article has been rated as High-importance on the project's importance scale.
WikiProject Architecture (Rated Start-class, Top-importance)
WikiProject icon This article is within the scope of WikiProject Architecture, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Architecture on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.
Start-Class article Start  This article has been rated as Start-Class on the project's quality scale.
 Top  This article has been rated as Top-importance on the project's importance scale.

A note[edit]

The picture on this page of the Carson Mansion is infact not the Carson Mansion, but Manchester Town Hall. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 05:00, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Another note[edit]

I don't think this should be a disambiguation page. Victorian architecture includes many styles, but it seems as valid a term as Georgian architecture. Besides, it is difficult, if not impossible, to tell which specific style it refers to when used in articles. Indeed, would it even be a good idea to try? I'm inclined to remove the {{disambig}} template. -- Flauto Dolce 01:20, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

I've gone ahead and done it. Flauto Dolce 01:31, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

British Examples & British Residential Housing[edit]

It is a little disappointing that British photographic examples appear to be in the minority on this page given the wealth of variety clearly in evidence across the country. In addition I believe the article should make a distinction between public and private building and make reference to interior architectual elements alongside the obvious external characteristics.--John Gibbard (talk) 08:41, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

I don't know enough on the subject but I agree; the majority of the images are from North America which, given that many great examples come from Britain (the Natural History Museum, the Victoria and Albert Museum, Northampton Guildhall, the Crystal Palace, Glasgow City Chambers, the Royal College of Music etc.), is rather strange.
Also, there are many other places in the UK that have a significant amount of Victorian architecture, for example Glasgow, Birmingham, Liverpool, Nottingham and Newcastle. It seems that there should be a more representative sample of images of Victorian architecture, not just American examples. (talk) 04:04, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
why oh why are tese articles so american centric. the victorian age and there architectural syles origionate from Britain not america. there are thousands upon thousands upon thousands of peices of classic origional victorian architecture in the UK as that was where it all came from. this needs to be changed immediatly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 19:07, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
The article is blatantly americo-centric, and very short for such an important topic (I didn't find the info I came here to look for). Unfortunately due to lack of subject knowledge, there is little I can do to help. Article page tagged.--Kudpung (talk) 18:33, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Regional bias[edit]

Information.svg This artical hs sustained a considerable regional bias since its creation. If you can help please address the following points:

  1. Reduduce bias content
    increase content for other regions to balance the world view, with references and supporting images.
  2. Significantly expand the article.
If it proves impracticable to achieve a global representation of Victorian architecture, several references and images of Victorian architecture in the USA may have to be to removed until a balance is struck. Removed items will not be deleted, but will be transferred to the article talk page for future use.--Kudpung (talk) 12:11, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the note, I don't have the time, but The Victorian Society would be a good place to start for the UK perspective, I believe that they also publish the authoritative book on the subject. I similarly tagged the Victorian house article. -- John (Daytona2 · Talk · Contribs) 09:33, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Hear hear. I will do a section on Vic. architecture in Australia, with a few shots, but we still need to get rid of some of the US stuff. I don't think I have enough knowledge to do a section on UK. Will someone please volunteer?

Sardaka (talk) 11:20, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Anyway, I've expanded things to make it more general and less US dominated. There's still room for expansion, if anyone feels up to it.

Sardaka (talk) 09:29, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

I am working on an article which will be entirely devoted to Victorian architecture in the United States. As soon as I copy & paste it into a new article, I will work on cleaning up the American section of this article (and reduce it to summary size). With a separate article for the United States, this article can be devoted to Victorian architecture in other parts of the world.
I agree that there needs to be more information on the style in the UK, but I'm probably not the one to write it.
--A.Fox 18:06, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

More focus on Victorian architecture in Toronto should happen as well. The city contains the most Victorian architecture of any city in North America, as well as very important examples. It's, essentially, the 'Victorian architecture haven' of North America, as many put it. LOctopus (talk) 20:42, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Expansion & regional bias[edit]

Thanks to everyone who responded to last year's call to expand this article and give it a more international coverage. It's now looking a lot better, but could still use more - IMO Victorian architecture is an important subject and is not adequately covered. With just a bit more work, this article could probably now be nominated for GA.--Kudpung (talk) 18:57, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Should the generic slum photo be included?[edit]

There is nothing distinctively "Victorian" about the photo of a Victorian-era slum. Why is that included? I suspect it is merely a present-day "social justice" campaigner trying to make their point about the economic discrepancies of Victorian society. This article is about architecture, and not a platform for people to make Dickensian judgments - even if they are valid. Unless someone can justify why that photo belongs in this article, I think it should be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Naymetayken (talkcontribs) 03:05, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Action taken Morgan Riley (talk) 02:10, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Royal Albert Hall[edit]

This section is referred to on other pages which refer to the reign of this Queen. I am visiting you last of all since I did not realize you existed but I found you quoted after I had added on other pages comments relating to the absence of any reference to the Royal Albert Hall. I find now that the same applies to this article and I therefore wish to quote here what I have said elsewhere as follows:


I have not read the article throughout but a search using Ctrl-F reveals nothing about the Royal Albert Hall and I conclude therefore there is nothing about the architecture of Britain during the reign of this Queen?

In fact it did of course effectively change very radically in a number of ways in particular as a result of industrialization. I do not here intend to be understood as referring simply to the creation of Victorian new towns but also to the fact that for the first time a majority of the population lived in urban areas and, within the countryside itself, there was a change in both England and Scotland so far as what previously had been common or shared land was concerned reflecting a simultaneous change in the form of agribusiness.

I suggest architecture and the use of land (which latter continues at least in theory to be entirely the ultimate property of the monarch in accordance with the feudal system) was something with which Queen Victoria and Prince Albert were directly concerned, and the demonstration of this is I suggest the form given by them to Buckingham Palace and later presumably by the Queen herself to the Royal Albert Hall, these two being in fact related. The Royal Albert Hall clearly in turn related directly to industrialization in the particular form of the World Exhibition (later World's Fair). The significance of this in terms of policy and relationship to the two extraordinarily violent world wars which whether she and others had foreseen and feared it or not followed immediately after her reign (that of Queen Victoria) should not perhaps be underrated given the particular format, taken as a whole, of the wording of the frieze on the Royal Albert Hall (Uncle Jonathan, Walks in and Around London, 1895, 3 ed.)

(End of quote}

Evidently it is this page which is in fact the most directly related.

Peter Judge —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 18:50, 9 April 2011 (UTC)