Talk:WNAO-TV

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GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:WNAO-TV/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Tayi Arajakate (talk · contribs) 05:31, 22 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Hello Sammi Brie, I'll taking up the review for this nomination and will present it to you shortly. I hope you find my feedback helpful. Tayi Arajakate Talk 05:31, 22 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Sammi Brie, I've completed the review and the article is almost a good article. There are a couple small issues, mostly relating to completeness of certain episodes in "VHF competitors arrive" which should be fixed before I can promote it. For the time being I'm putting this nomination on hold, also note that the points 1 and 7 in the comments section are more suggestions than issues and aren't necessary for the good article criteria. Good work on the article in general! Tayi Arajakate Talk 14:16, 4 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Tayi Arajakate, I've addressed most of these issues. This is a bit inside baseball-y of a topic, but a lot of stations failed for this basic reason, and I've piled up DYKs (and hopefully soon a GA) on them like cordwood over the years to the tune of about 30. (WNAO-TV lasted longer than most!) Quick summary: the original band plan for TV in the US contemplated 12 channels, 2 to 13. Demand was so overwhelming there was a four-year freeze on new TV applications (1948–1952) while the FCC worked out a solution, which was the UHF band with 70 extra channels (14 to 83). However, while people generally rated picture quality well, the coverage area was less for a UHF of the time, especially in rugged terrain. The biggest omission was that there was no requirement for new TV sets to be made to receive the new UHF channels. This put a serious damper on the ability of UHFs, in a market with at least one VHF station, to attract advertisers and viewers and swept dozens of them to their financial doom. As it turns out, WRAL and WTVD (the two VHF stations in this particular area) became very strong stations, and even when the technical issues were less, there were problems, and to this day the "third" station in the market is just that, third-rated. (You'll see this if you read WRDC and WNCN, which are both intended for GAN once a few more of my current nominations get taken up.) Sammi Brie (she/her • tc) 18:01, 4 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Sammi Brie, thanks for the explaination, that was helpful. I have checked the article again and the issues are resolved except the line "... created increasing concern at Sir Walter as to WNAO-TV's continued viability, given the unequal economic environment faced by UHF stations in the presence of stronger VHF; at the time, not all television sets could tune UHF channels" needs a source since it doesn't appear to be verifiable from the in-line citation unless I'm missing something. Once this is fixed I'll promote it to GA status, sorry for making you wait this long. Tayi Arajakate Talk 12:45, 5 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    @Tayi Arajakate Added a new ref. This should fix that issue. Sammi Brie (she/her • tc) 19:14, 5 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Looks good now, I'll go ahead and promote this article. Congrats on the successful nomination and good luck for your future nominations! Tayi Arajakate Talk 09:05, 6 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comments[edit]

  • "... though it aired programming from all four networks." Perhaps the other three could be mentioned?
  • Sir Walter's petition if accepted would have eliminated any intermixing between commercial UHF and VHF channels seems to be a key point which is not mentioned.
  • "... created increasing concern at Sir Walter." Why?
  • The points presented by WPTF in its protestation could be better summarised instead of a specific one being mentioned, and I would suggest not using words like "rebutted". The FCC's final decision should be mentioned as well, otherwise the paragraph appears incomplete.
  • "That year, the company entered into discussions with the University of North Carolina..." How did it conclude?
  • "For the next five years, Southern pursued channel 8; when it won the construction permit for what became WGHP in October 1962—after an initial decision the year before favored a competing application from the owners of WKIX radio—the WNAO-TV and WTOB-TV permits were surrendered for cancellation as a condition of the award." The sentence reads quite convoluted, I would suggest breaking it up into two or three sentences.
  • Not much else, though I found the wording of the article in general a bit of technical, requiring some understanding of the American broadcast industry and FCC processes to be able to understand it. Could provide some minor elaborations in text and/or simplify the wording but it's not a big issue so I'll leave that up to you on whether and how you want to fix it.

Assessment[edit]

  1. Comprehension: The comprehension is generally good.
  2. Pass Pass
    Criteria Notes Result
    (a) (prose) The prose is clear and concise. (Updated) Pass Pass
    (b) (MoS) The article follows the manual of style. Pass Pass
  3. Verifiability: The article is verifiable.
  4. Pass Pass
    Criteria Notes Result
    (a) (references) The article has a list of references and in-line citations for all material in the body. Pass Pass
    (b) (citations to reliable sources) Sources used are reliable. Pass Pass
    (c) (original research) No original research found. Pass Pass
    (d) (copyvio and plagiarism) No copyright violation found. Pass Pass
  5. Comprehensiveness: The article is largely comprehensive.
  6. Pass Pass
    Criteria Notes Result
    (a) (major aspects) The article covers all major aspects. (Updated) Pass Pass
    (b) (focused) No unnecessary deviations present. Pass Pass
  7. Neutrality: The article is neutral.
  8. Pass Pass
    Notes Result
    The article is compliant with the policy on neutral point of view. Pass Pass
  9. Stability: The article is stable.
  10. Pass Pass
    Notes Result
    No ongoing edit warring or content disputes present. Pass Pass
  11. Illustration: The article is appropriately illustrated.
  12. Pass Pass
    Criteria Notes Result
    (a) (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales) Image is appropriately tagged with its relevant copyright status. Pass Pass
    (b) (appropriate use with suitable captions) The caption is suitable. Pass Pass

Did you know nomination[edit]

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 21:32, 15 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Improved to Good Article status by Sammi Brie (talk). Self-nominated at 19:04, 6 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

  • Can't see anything wrong with either the article or the hook. Recently promoted to GA status, certainly long enough, & impeccably sourced. No copyvio concerns. Hook is interesting and cited to an accessible newspaper bit. QPQ done. Awesome! Kingoflettuce (talk) 17:35, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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