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Location

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The lead sentence of the article says it is near St. Augustine. The template says the location is St. Augustine. The article is under the category Category:Museums in St. Augustine, Florida. According to Google Maps when you type in St. Augustine and it zooms to the city boundaries, nothing to the West of Interstate 95 is in St. Augustine which is where the World Golf Hall of Fame is located. Even according to the Future Land Use Map dated May 2016, the area where the World Golf Hall of Fame is located isn't on the Lane Use Map. The World Golf Hall of Fame is in St. Johns County, not St. Augustine. I didn't want to start changing things in the article without stating facts. --Mjrmtg (talk) 14:46, 7 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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World Golf Hall of Fame inductees category

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Tewapack I saw you reverted my edit to add this category to this article. It's a shame to have this helpful category Category:World Golf Hall of Fame inductees and the reader does not even know about it because there is no navigation to it from the main article. Plus, the inductees are listed on the main article so it's really not false to include it; there are inductees here. And last, there is supposed to be a main article for a category. All I know is that they need to be connected somehow so looking at the main article you can navigate to the category; what is the point otherwise. I did add the cat main to the category. dawnleelynn(talk) 05:37, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your addition of the cat main to the category is sufficient - thank you. Checking a few other categories Category:Pro Football Hall of Fame inductees, Category:Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame inductees, and Category:National Baseball Hall of Fame inductees) show a similar treatment. Tewapack (talk) 18:07, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Tewapack, that's cool. I always try to make sure I have the main article in the category if there is one. Occasionally, I run into a category without one. Have a great day! dawnleelynn(talk) 18:17, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Concerns over article content

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@Tewapack I see that we keep going back and forth reverting each other's edits. The edits that I made to the entirety of the article have been written and approved by CEO of the World Golf Foundation who oversees the World Golf Hall of Fame. I am asking if we could kindly keep the changes I have made. Thank you! MorganCom17 (talk) 14:18, 18 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Please see WP:COIEDIT - the subject of an article does not get to write and approve the article. Tewapack (talk) 18:45, 18 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Who gets to write and approve the article then? The information that is currently on the page is incorrect and needs to be updated. MorganCom17 (talk) 19:04, 18 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The article is already written. If you have specific edits in mind, see the third bullet point under Wikipedia:Conflict of interest#COI editing. Tewapack (talk) 20:06, 18 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your help. MorganCom17 (talk) 21:18, 18 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Changed the beginning of article to reflect recent changes to the World Golf Hall of Fame. These edits are minor and I kindly ask that they stay in place. Thank you. MorganCom17 (talk) 20:28, 27 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@MorganCom17: I have reverted your changes and declined your request below. Your proposed text remains overtly promotional (it reads like a press release) and does not comply with policy. Frankly, anything "written and approved by CEO of the World Golf Foundation" is likely to be problematic and be rejected. Regards, wjematherplease leave a message... 15:05, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed changes

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World Golf Hall of Fame – St. Augustine is located at World Golf Village in St. Augustine, Florida, in the United States, and it is unusual among sports halls of fame in that a single site honors both men and women. It is supported by a consortium of 26 golf organizations from all over the world.[1] The Hall of Fame Museum Building was designed by the specialist museum architecture firm E. Verner Johnson and Associates of Boston. They also produced the museum master plan that established the size, mission and qualities of the museum and the surrounding facilities and site.

The Hall of Fame Museum features a permanent exhibition and a rolling program of temporary exhibitions. Designed by museum design firm Ralph Appelbaum Associates, the Hall of Fame and exhibition area contains exhibits on the game's history, heritage, and techniques; major players and organizations; golf course design, equipment, and dress.[2]

World Golf Hall of Fame – Pinehurst

Building on its longstanding partnership and shared passion to elevate the stories of golf’s legends, on July 20, 2022, the USGA and the World Golf Hall of Fame announced it will jointly create a new visitor experience at the USGA’s Golf House Pinehurst campus, opening in June 2024. In doing so, the Hall of Fame will relocate its physical presence of artifacts on display from St. Augustine (Fla.) to North Carolina.

Many of the most-cherished items within the Hall of Fame’s existing collection will be relocated to Pinehurst for the creation of a new Hall of Fame locker room, which will come to life on the second floor of the USGA Experience building. The result will be a seamless visitor journey from the USGA Experience galleries on the first floor to the second, showcasing the incredible talents of golf’s many contributors and their lasting impact on the game.

The USGA will be responsible for the day-to-day operations, management and artifact preservation related to the World Golf Hall of Fame displays, as well as the content, presentation and overall look and feel of the visitor experience. The association will leverage the assets of its USGA Golf Museum and Library – the most comprehensive collection of golf artifacts worldwide - to augment the visitor experience.

The Hall of Fame will continue to operate as an independent organization as part of the World Golf Foundation, serving as the sole administrator of the Hall of Fame induction (i.e…process, criteria and ceremony). The Hall of Fame also will collaborate with the USGA on digital content and other visitor interactives that celebrate Hall of Fame members and that complement the artifacts on display.

History

The World Golf Hall of Fame was originally located in Pinehurst, North Carolina, and was privately operated by Diamondhead Corp., then owners of the Pinehurst Resort. Don Collett was the founder and inaugural President of the World Golf Hall of Fame. It opened in September 1974 with an initial class of 13 members.[3] Initially it was a local project, but the PGA of America took over management in 1983 and acquired full ownership in 1986. Two other halls of fame have been merged into the World Golf Hall of Fame. The PGA of America established one in 1940, which was merged into the Pinehurst Hall in the 1980s. The Hall of Fame of Women's Golf was established by the LPGA in 1951, with four charter members: Patty Berg, Betty Jameson, Louise Suggs, and Babe Zaharias. It was inactive for some years, but in 1967 it moved into its first physical premises, which were in Augusta, Georgia and was renamed the LPGA Tour Hall of Fame. In 1998 it merged into the World Golf Hall of Fame. In 1994 the global golf industry established a non-profit making body called the World Golf Foundation to promote the sport, with the creation of an enhanced Hall of Fame as one of its main objectives. Construction at the new site in St. Johns County, Florida began in 1996 and the new facility opened on May 19, 1998.

Membership Categories

I. 1996 – 2013

From 1996 to 2013, members were inducted into the Hall of Fame in one of five categories: (1) PGA TOUR/Champions Tour, (2) LPGA Tour, (3) International, (4) Lifetime Achievement, and (5) Veterans.

A. PGA TOUR/Champions Tour ballot

Current and former PGA TOUR and Champions Tour players were eligible for this ballot if they met the following requirements (beginning with 1996 election):

• PGA TOUR

o Minimum of 40 years old

o PGA Tour member for 10 years o 10 PGA Tour wins or two wins in the Majors or PLAYERS Championship

• Champions Tour

o Champions Tour member for five years

o 20 wins between PGA Tour and Champions Tour or five wins in the majors (regular or senior) or PLAYERS Championship

Election requirements:

Years - % of returned ballots needed for election

1996–2000 - 75%

2001–2003 - 65%

2004–2013 - 65%, In the event that no candidate receives 65%, the nominee receiving the most votes with at least 50% is elected

2013 - Present - 75%

B. LPGA Point System

LPGA Tour golfers were eligible through a point system. From 1999 – 2013, LPGA members automatically qualified for World Golf Hall of Fame membership when they meet these three criteria:

1. Must be/have been an "active" LPGA Tour member for 10 years.

2. Must have won/been awarded at least one of the following - an LPGA major championship, the Vare Trophy or Player of the Year honors; and

3. Must have accumulated a total of 27 points, which are awarded as follows - one point for each LPGA official tournament win, two points for each LPGA major tournament win and one point for each Vare Trophy or Rolex Player of the Year honor earned.

Before 1999, players had to win 30 tournaments, including two majors; 35 tournaments with one major; or 40 tournaments in all to automatically qualify. At one time, players had to win two different majors to qualify with 30 wins, but this was changed earlier in the 1990s. This point system is still used for selection to the LPGA Hall of Fame.[12] However, in March 2022, the ten-year requirement was scrapped, and a point for winning an Olympic gold medal was added to the criteria.[13]

C. International Ballot

Men and women golfers not fully eligible for PGA/Champions Tour ballot or the LPGA Tour point system were eligible for the International ballot if they met the following requirements[14] (beginning with the 1996 election - 2013):

• Minimum of 40 years old

• Cumulative 50 points earned as follows:

o Men

● 6 points – Major victories

● 4 points – PLAYERS Championship win

● 3 points – Other PGA Tour win, European Tour win

● 2 points – Japan Golf Tour, Sunshine Tour, PGA TOUR of Australasia, Champions Tour win

● 1 point – Other national championship win; Ryder Cup, Presidents Cup participation

o Women

● 6 points – Major[a] victories

● 4 points – Other LPGA Tour win, Women's British Open win prior to 2001[b]

● 2 points – LPGA of Japan Tour win, Ladies European Tour win

● 1 point – Other national championship win, Solheim Cup participation

Election requirements: same as PGA Tour ballot.

D. Lifetime Achievement Category

There was also a "lifetime achievement" category through which anyone who had made a major contribution to the organization or promotion of the sport may be selected (e.g…Bob Hope). These members were chosen by the Hall of Fame's Board of Directors. Most played golf, in some cases with some competitive success, but it was not their play alone which won them a place in the Hall of Fame.

E. Veteran's Category

The last category was created to honor professional or amateur players whose career concluded at least 30 years ago. These members were also chosen by the Hall of Fame's Board of Directors.

II. 2013-2016

In October 2013, the Hall announced that it was reviewing its selection process and that there would be no induction ceremony in 2014.[4][5] A new process was announced in March 2014.

Starting in 2014, members were inducted into the Hall of Fame in one of four categories: (1) Male Competitor, (2) Female Competitor, (3) Veterans, and (4) Lifetime

Achievement categories. Elections are held every other year with induction ceremonies in odd number years beginning in 2015. The minimum qualifications for male and female competitors are: minimum of 40 years old, or five years removed from "active competition" and one (1) Major/Players Championship (men only) and 15 or more wins on "approved tours;" or two(2) "Major Championship wins". The Veterans Category is primarily for those golfers whose careers ended before 1980 and includes both amateurs and professionals. The Lifetime Achievement Category remains from the old system.[6]

In 2016, the Hall announced that the age requirement would be raised to 50 from 40 years old.[8] In 2020, the age went from 50 to 45.[9]

III. 2020 – Present

The Hall of Fame revised the criteria in 2020 and now recognize two categories: (1) Male and Female Competitor and (2) Contributor.

A 30-member Nominating Sub-Committee comprised of Hall of Fame Members, World Golf Foundation Board organizations and members of the media will choose from among the eligible candidates and nominate a total of 10 individuals (i.e….four male competitors, four female competitors and two contributors) to a separate 20-member Selection Committee comprised of Hall of Fame Members, World Golf Foundation Board organizations and members of the media. The Selection Committee will vote to induct no less than four individuals for induction into the World Golf Hall of Fame. Election to the Hall of Fame requires 75% of the vote in each year's election class.

Qualification details

Male

• Approved tours (15 wins total)

o PGA Tour o European Tour

o Japan Golf Tour

o Sunshine Tour

o Asian Tour

o PGA Tour of Australasia

• Men’s Majors or PLAYERS Championship

o Masters Tournament

o U.S. Open

o The Open Championship

o PGA Championship

o The PLAYERS Championship

Female

• Approved tours (15 wins total)

o LPGA Tour

o Ladies European Tour

o LPGA of Japan Tour

o LPGA of Korea Tour

o ALPG Tour

• Ladies Majors (two wins)

o Current Majors

1. U.S. Women's Open (1946 – current)

2. KPMG Women's PGA Championship (1955 – current, formerly known as LPGA Championship )

3. The Women's Open Championship (2001− current)

4. Chevron Championship (1983−current; formerly known as the Dinah Shore, Kraft Nabisco Championship, and ANA Inspiration)

5. The Amundi Evian Championship (2000 – current; formerly known as Evian Masters)

o Past Majors

6. du Maurier Classic (1979 – 2000; currently known as CP Women’s Open)

7. Titleholders Championship (1937 – 42, 1946 – 1966, 1972)

8. Women's Western Open (1930 – 1967)

Induction into World Golf Hall of Fame Membership

The inaugural class of World Golf Hall of Fame was confirmed in Pinehurst, NC on September 11, 1974, and the class included 13 members to include, Walter Hagen, Ben Hogan, Bobby Jones, Byron Nelson, Jack Nicklaus, Francis Ouimet, Arnold Palmer, Gary Player, Gene Sarazen, Sam Snead, Harry Vardon, Willie Andreson, and Fred Corcoran. The members were inducted by President Gerald Ford.

Annually, new members were inducted each year on the Monday of the PLAYERS Championship.[15] Beginning in 2015, the Induction Ceremonies began to move to a biennial celebration to be held during major championships or other significant events. In 2015 the ceremony was held at during the Open championship in St. Andrews, Scotland; 2017, the ceremony was held during the Presidents Cup in New York, NY; 2019 the ceremony was held during the US Open in Pebble Beach, CA; 2022, the induction ceremony was held during the PLAYERS Championship in Ponte Vedra Beach, FL.; 2024 the ceremony will be held during the US Open in Pinehurst, NC.

Men

Male Competitors were inducted for their on-course success and Contributors for making a significant contribution to the game of golf away from the course.

· 1974 Walter Hagen

· 1974 Ben Hogan

· 1974 Bobby Jones

· 1974 Byron Nelson

· 1974 Jack Nicklaus

· 1974 Francis Ouimet

· 1974 Arnold Palmer

· 1974 Gary Player

· 1974 Gene Sarazen

· 1974 Sam Snead

· 1974 Harry Vardon

· 1975 Willie Anderson

· 1975 Fred Corcoran - (Administrator)

· 1975 Joseph Dey - (Administrator)

· 1975 Chick Evans

· 1975 Young Tom Morris

· 1975 John Henry Taylor

· 1976 Tommy Armour

· 1976 James Braid

· 1976 Old Tom Morris

· 1976 Jerome Travers

· 1977 Bobby Locke

· 1977 John Ball

· 1977 Herb Graffis - (Media)

· 1977 Donald Ross – (Architect)

· 1978 Billy Casper

· 1978 Harold Hilton

· 1978 Bing Crosby – (Ambassador)

· 1978 Clifford Roberts – (Administrator)

· 1979 Walter Travis

· 1980 Henry Cotton

· 1980 Lawson Little

· 1981 Ralph Guldahl

· 1981 Lee Trevino

· 1982 Julius Boros

· 1983 Jimmy Demaret

· 1983 Bob Hope – (Ambassador)

· 1986 Cary Middlecoff

· 1987 Robert Trent Jones – (Architect)

· 1988 Bob Harlow – (Administrator)

· 1988 Peter Thomson

· 1988 Tom Watson

· 1989 Jim Barnes

· 1989 Roberto De Vicenzo

· 1989 Raymond Floyd

· 1990 William C. Campbell – (Administrator)

· 1990 Gene Littler

· 1990 Paul Runyan

· 1990 Horton Smith

· 1992 Harry Cooper

· 1992 Hale Irwin

· 1992 Chi-Chi Rodríguez

· 1992 Richard Tufts – (Administrator)

· 1996 Johnny Miller

· 1997 Seve Ballesteros

· 1997 Nick Faldo

· 1998 Lloyd Mangrum

· 2000 Jack Burke Jr.

· 2000 Deane Beman – (Administrator)

· 2000 Michael Bonallack – (Administrator)

· 2000 Neil Coles – (Administrator)

· 2000 John Jacobs – (Administrator)

· 2001 Bernhard Langer (inducted with 2002 class)[18]

· 2001 Greg Norman

· 2001 Payne Stewart

· 2001 Allan Robertson

· 2001 Karsten Solheim – (Manufacturer)

· 2002 Ben Crenshaw

· 2002 Tony Jacklin

· 2002 Tommy Bolt

· 2002 Harvey Penick – (Instructor)

· 2003 Nick Price

· 2003 Leo Diegel

· 2004 Charlie Sifford

· 2004 Isao Aoki

· 2004 Tom Kite

· 2005 Bernard Darwin – (Media)

· 2005 Alister MacKenzie – (Architect)

· 2005 Willie Park Sr.

· 2005 Vijay Singh (inducted with 2006 class)[19]

· 2006 Larry Nelson

· 2006 Henry Picard

· 2006 Mark McCormack – (Ambassador)

· 2007 Joe Carr

· 2007 Hubert Green

· 2007 Charles B. Macdonald – (Architect)

· 2007 Kel Nagle

· 2007 Curtis Strange

· 2008 Bob Charles

· 2008 Pete Dye – (Architect)

· 2008 Denny Shute

· 2008 Herbert Warren Wind – (Media)

· 2008 Craig Wood

· 2009 Christy O'Connor Snr

· 2009 José María Olazábal

· 2009 Lanny Wadkins

· 2009 Dwight D. Eisenhower – (Ambassador)

· 2011 Ernie Els

· 2011 Masashi "Jumbo" Ozaki

· 2011 Doug Ford

· 2011 Jock Hutchison

· 2011 Frank Chirkinian – (Media)

· 2011 George H. W. Bush – (Ambassador)

· 2012 Phil Mickelson[20]

· 2012 Dan Jenkins – (Media)

· 2012 Sandy Lyle[22]

· 2012 Peter Alliss[22]

· 2013 Fred Couples[23]

· 2013 Ken Venturi[24]

· 2013 Willie Park Jr.[25]

· 2013 Colin Montgomerie[26]

· 2013 Ken Schofield[26] – (Ambassador)

· 2015 David Graham[27]

· 2015 Mark O'Meara[27]

· 2015 A. W. Tillinghast – (Architect)[27]

· 2017 Henry Longhurst – (Media)

· 2017 Davis Love III

· 2017 Ian Woosnam

· 2019 Retief Goosen

· 2019 Billy Payne – (Administrator)

· 2019 Dennis Walters – (Ambassador)

· 2021 Tiger Woods[28]

· 2021 Tim Finchem – (Administrator)[29]

Women

The first five women on this list were admitted in 1998 from the Hall of Fame of Women's Golf, which was founded in 1951, via the LPGA Tour Hall of Fame, which was founded in 1967. The list shows the years when they were originally inducted into the Hall of Fame of Women's Golf. Female Competitors were inducted for their on-course success and Contributors for making a significant contribution to the game of golf away from the course on the list were inducted primarily for their on-course achievements.

· 1951 Betty Jameson

· 1951 Patty Berg

· 1951 Louise Suggs

· 1951 Babe Didrikson Zaharias

· 1960 Betsy Rawls

· 1964 Mickey Wright

· 1975 Joyce Wethered

· 1975 Kathy Whitworth

· 1977 Sandra Haynie

· 1977 Carol Mann

· 1978 Dorothy Campbell Hurd Howe

· 1982 JoAnne Carner

· 1987 Nancy Lopez

· 1991 Pat Bradley

· 1993 Patty Sheehan

· 1994 Dinah Shore – (Ambassador)

· 1995 Betsy King

· 1999 Amy Alcott

· 2000 Beth Daniel

· 2000 Juli Inkster

· 2000 Judy Rankin

· 2001 Donna Caponi

· 2001 Judy Bell – (Administrator)

· 2002 Marlene Bauer Hagge

· 2003 Hisako "Chako" Higuchi

· 2003 Annika Sörenstam

· 2004 Marlene Stewart Streit

· 2005 Ayako Okamoto

· 2005 Karrie Webb

· 2006 Marilynn Smith

· 2007 Pak Se-ri

· 2008 Carol Semple Thompson

· 2012 Hollis Stacy[30]

· 2015 Laura Davies[27]

· 2017 Meg Mallon

· 2017 Lorena Ochoa

· 2019 Peggy Kirk Bell

· 2019 Jan Stephenson

· 2021 Marion Hollins[31] - (Architect)

· 2021 Susie Maxwell Berning[32]


*Reason for the change: to update previous article with new information

MorganCom17 (talk) 21:17, 18 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Updates to World Golf Hall of Fame Page

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Hi - I have been trying to update this page as many things are incorrect based off of the World Golf Hall of Fame's webpage. What I have edited appears to get reverted back. BAS0511 (talk) 19:50, 3 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

As far as I cal tell, you've simply been removing descriptions from inducted members. Since the introduction states listed members were inducted in recognition of on-course successes unless stated otherwise, these descriptions are necessary. What do you think is incorrect? wjematherplease leave a message... 20:57, 3 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Lydia Ko

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It is very clear that Lydia Ko now qualifies for the Hall of Fame. LPGA communication makes this very clear. At which point should this article reflect her qualification? Her actual induction? There is an argument that since there is already LPGA acknowledgement and because it is a points based system where qualification is automatic that the page should reflect her qualification now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.233.33.91 (talk) 07:34, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ko qualified for the LPGA Hall of Fame, not this one. Tewapack (talk) 15:34, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for making the distinction. Having read more closely, is your sense that she will essentially automatically be brought in at the age of 40? 175.32.84.176 (talk) 21:08, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'd be surprised if Ko and Inbee Park don't get in as soon as they are eligible (at age 45). Tewapack (talk) 22:48, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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