Talk:Yoga series

The Five Tibetans

I question the veracity of including this content in an article on Yoga series. Technically, the Tibetans are not Yoga... 30 sep 2007 11:27 69.37.164.141

It depends on what you choose to be yoga. Please watch the following:

• First rite: derwishes alike, indeed not contemporary, nor ancient yoga, but sufi
• Second rite: hatha yoga poses Savasana (Dead Pose) and Viparita Karani (Legs-Up-the-Wall Pose / Reversed Action)
• Third rite: hatha yoga poses two Ustrasana (Camel) variations
• Fourth rite: hatha yoga poses Dandasana (nl) (staff) Katushpada Pitham (nl) (Reversed Table)
• Fifth rite: hatha yoga poses Urdhva Mukha Svanasana (Upward Dog) and Adho Mukha Svanasana (nl) (Downward Dog)

This combined with the fact that hatha yoga undone of the philosophy of raja yoga still remains to be yoga, one cannot but conclude that the Five Tibetans are a kind of yoga.

Other thing that has to be taken notice of, is that virtually all guru's (Iyengar, Savananda, Yogananda, John Friend, name it) develop own yoga styles that are all called yoga, except for Pilates. The difference seems to be what the inventor calls it. Not so much whether there is a deep kind of philosophy aspect. A kind of kundalini aspect is present in the Five Tibetans, although it is called differently: it's called rejuvenation by Kelder. So I view that it surely is yoga, but just one another kind. Davin7 17:29, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Add Moon Salutations

This article would be improved by adding a section on the Moon Salutations & the different kinds. Lentower (talk) 14:09, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

Surya Namaskar

Just a note to anyone who's interested - all the series and transitions (Vinyasas) in modern yoga as exercise are derived from Surya Namaskar, the sun salutation/salute to the sun. It was originally not considered yoga, but when Krishnamacharya became aware of it (next door to his Yogashala in the Mysore Palace), he incorporated its flowing movements into his new, gymnastic style of yoga, creating what became Vinyasas, Mysore style, and teaching both Pattabhi Jois and B. K. S. Iyengar: they both inherited and transmitted yoga with jumps and the use of Surya Namaskar as the basis of an increasingly broad range of variations on the basic series. There is extensive documentation of this in the books cited in the articles linked here. I've therefore restored the redirect to Surya Namaskar, as it's the natural home for any discussion of yoga series. Chiswick Chap (talk) 07:58, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

But, You know it, there are series of asanas very differ from Surya Namaskar, combinations only sitting poses and so on. How to name page about any type? not better devoting for general article this old page of redirection? DayakSibiriak (talk) 08:36, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Well, to be frank, anyone teaching yoga for an hour-long session is going to do a sequence of things, one pose after another, they can hardly avoid it. As it happens, both Pattabhi Jois and B. K. S. Iyengar actually incorporated sitting poses into Surya Namaskar-derived sequences, surprising as that may sound to those who think it's all done standing. Look, if you have reliable sources in sufficient quantity to cover this topic, that's fine, but take care to avoid WP:FORKing the articles I have linked here; you'll find, I think, that the key points have all been covered already. Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:43, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Better article, no redirect

Hello Chiswick Chap and all. Why cannot be the general article or stub for now on "Yoga series" as any groupings of asanas? Why only redirect to some? What I've done is not bad for stub. Togerher we can do more. Where is space for article on any yoga series, if not at page "Yoga series"? Shall I create a new page? how to call it? DayakSibiriak (talk) 08*22, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

• • This is the same thread as the one above, so please read what I've said there to avoid repetition, and I don't agree with the thread's title. Basically, the story begins at Surya Namaskar and continues there; we also have articles on Mysore style and Vinyasa, (not to mention Ashtanga Vinyasa Yoga) so we certainly have quite good coverage of the topic. If you are certain that you have material - I mean sufficient Reliable Sources - and will not just be creating another WP:FORK covering the same ground all over again, then an article might be possible, but that is not grounds for cutting much-visited materials from the major yoga templates. My view is that anything that might need to be said and that could be reliably cited can easily be accommodated at Surya Namaskar. After all, a yoga series is just a series of asanas, sometimes linked by transitions derived from Surya Namaskar's flowing movements. Creating new pages with multiple and increasingly obscure names is not the answer. We have articles on the topics that people have actually heard of. All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 08*32, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

If this is to happen, it should cover:

• History (as above)
  • Surya Namaskar, Pant Pratinidhi, and at the Mysore Palace
  • Krishnamacharya at the Mysore Palace - Vinyasa, experimentation with gymnastics from many sources
  • Pattabhi Jois - sent to teach one sequence by Krishnamacharya - Ashtanga Vinyasa Yoga - Mysore Style
  • B. K. S. Iyengar - Krishnamacharya's brother-in-law - Iyengar Yoga
• Sequences based on Surya Namaskar
  • Chandra Namaskar
  • jumpings, inserting sitting asanas, etc
• Other sequences
  • Ashtanga Vinyasa Yoga (consisting of basic .. advanced sequences)
  • Bikram Yoga (exactly one sequence, 26 asanas)

This should be done properly or not at all; there's no point half-heartedly creating a stub to languish for ten years, unhelpfully wasting readers' time rather than taking them to an informative article via a suitable redirect. Chiswick Chap (talk) 09:25, 1 July 2021 (UTC)