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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by ThaddeusB (talk) 18:20, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

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Alice Davis Menken[edit]

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Menken in Union Square, New York City, 1893, where she lived and died

Created by Czar (talk). Self nominated at 15:11, 4 May 2014 (UTC).

  1. It's new.
  2. It's long enough
  3. It seems reasonably policy compliant though the paraphrasing of the Herman source seems dangerously close at times.
  1. The hook is long at 181 chars but within the limit.
  2. The hook doesn't do much for me but seems reasonably accurate.
  1. There's a QPQ.
  2. The image seems to be out of copyright due to its age and seems reasonably clear as a small thumbnail.

So, that's a pass. Mazel tov. Andrew (talk) 16:42, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

  • "Dangerously close" paraphrasing is not acceptable. It appears that the page creator has copied the Herman source sentence by sentence and then changed around a few words in each sentence. It would be better to rewrite the section in your own words.
  • Source:

  • The third of the seven children of Michael Marks and Miriam (Maduro Peixotto) Davis, Alice Davis Menken was born on August 4, 1870, in New York City. Descended from several prominent European Sephardi families, she was also a member of the Daughters of the American Revolution on her mother’s side. Her family was closely tied to Manhattan’s Spanish and Portuguese synagogue of New York City (Shearith Israel). Alice was the great-granddaughter of one of its earliest cantors, Moses Levi Maduro Peixotto. She married Mortimer Morange Menken, an attorney, on October 17, 1893. They had a son, Harold Davis Menken, in 1895.

  • Article:

  • Alice Davis Marks Menken was born Alice Davis Marks as the third of seven children to Michael Marks and Miriam (Maduro Peixotto) Davis on August 4, 1870 in New York City. She was a descendent of multiple prominent European Sephardic families and in maternal lineage of the Daughters of the American Revolution. Her family maintained a close connection with their Manhattan temple, the Spanish and Portuguese Synagogue. Davis Menken was the great-granddaughter of Moses Levi Maduro Peixotto, an early cantor at the synagogue. {...} She married Mortimer Morange Menken, an attorney and descendant of Rabbi Gershom Seixas, on October 17, 1893. Their only son, Harold Davis Menken, was born in 1895.

  • There are also far too many redlinks in the article. If you're not planning on creating these pages in the near future, could you remove them? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 21:10, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

@Yoninah: No, that's not what I did, but you're entitled to your theory. That comparison is also only the first paragraph, which mostly consists of facts (WP:LIMITED). The rest are mixed from multiple sources, but there was only one online source on her early life for the mentioned paragraph. But since you're asking, I've obfuscated the information out of its logical order so as to make 100% certain it doesn't resemble its source. I haven't seen a policy against numerous, valid redlinks, but I'm happy to be wrong about that. I'm planning to expand them out eventually. Thanks for your review czar ♔ 21:37, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

  • Thank you for obfuscating! Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 21:45, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
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