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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:50, 24 November 2016 (UTC)

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Evangelische Akademie Tutzing

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Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 21:31, 5 November 2016 (UTC).

  • I will review this DYK. It's been awhile since I've done a DYK review, so feel free to keep me on track.--CaroleHenson (talk) 21:57, 5 November 2016 (UTC)


General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: Yes
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Invalid status "Y" - use one of "y", "?", "maybe", "no" or "again"

  • Per the nominator, there is work-in-progress on the issue, so you may want to give her a little time before adding comments.--CaroleHenson (talk) 22:56, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
Carole, it's ready for looking again: I found a 2016 official document of the building as a listed monument, changed a few dates accordingly. If you can point out where translations can be improved, please do so. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:13, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
Your hook ALT is fine, although more about Brandt than the academy, but providing substance to its importance.
ALT1: ... that a speech by Egon Bahr at the Evangelische Akademie Tutzing (main building pictured) influenced the relation of chancellor Willy Brandt to the German Democratic Republic?
Readers will (hopefully) be surprised that German Democratic Republic is only a redirect. No link to East Germany under my name, please, - it never was a country's name. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:19, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
Gerda Arendt Your additions look good. I went ahead and made some minor copy edits. I just have a follow-up question. Can you provide a little information about how the speech changed the relationship between Bahr and the GDR? Or, the two parts of Germany, if that's better? (e.g., it was a broadcast that was positively received by the citizens? resulted in specific actions that were well-received? other?) Otherwise, I think it's good to go.--CaroleHenson (talk) 16:22, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
I added a link to Ostpolitik, but don't think it's good for this article to copy/paraphrase from there. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:32, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
ALT2: ... that a speech by Egon Bahr at the Evangelische Akademie Tutzing (main building pictured) influenced the relation of chancellor Willy Brandt to the German Democratic Republic when it resulted in the Ostpolitik?
Does this look ok?--CaroleHenson (talk) 17:05, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
Sorry, I think there's a little flaw in the logic, because the influence came before the result. Simpler, - better wording welcome:
ALT3: ... that a speech by Egon Bahr at the Evangelische Akademie Tutzing (main building pictured) influenced the relation of chancellor Willy Brandt to the German Democratic Republic, shaping the Ostpolitik?
ALT4: ... that a speech by Egon Bahr at the Evangelische Akademie Tutzing (main building pictured) influenced the Ostpolitik of chancellor Willy Brandt towards the German Democratic Republic? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:44, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
I like #4.--CaroleHenson (talk) 18:54, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
You could approve just that one, or leave the prep builder a choice, striking what you don't support, as I do for ALT2.

Ok, good. I marked it "passed" and the prep builder can choose which one they like best.--CaroleHenson (talk) 20:39, 17 November 2016 (UTC)

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