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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: rejected by —♦♦ AMBER(ЯʘCK) 09:20, 3 April 2016 (UTC)

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Gui Minhai[edit]

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  • ALT1:... that two Swedish citizens, Gui Minhai and Peter Dahlin, appeared in video confessions broadcast by China Central Television within two days of each other in January 2016.
  • Reviewed: Lütfi Elvan (second of eight credits used)

Created/expanded by Ohconfucius (talk). Self-nominated at 00:05, 15 February 2016 (UTC).

  • This article seems to check out on nearly all fronts, but one concern remains: its English needs to be reworked. Please see to it that this article receives a copyedit.—♦♦ AMBER(ЯʘCK) 12:39, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
  • Unfortunately, it's not good enough. Many instances of awkward phrasing still exist, and in some cases I'm not even sure what you are trying to say. I've highlighted some of them here:
  • "He joined a local affiliate of 2003 Nordpool Consulting of Germany as a consultant"
  • "Gui returned to Ningbo from Sweden, started a company offering environmental engineering services, serving as director and general manager."
  • "two years' imprisonment, suspended for two years."
  • "17 January 2016, Xinhua News Agency published an article"
  • "had committed traffic crime"
  • "involve knowingly distributing under false cover books"
This article will require more work.—♦♦ AMBER(ЯʘCK) 14:45, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
@Ohconfucius: I see you have made some changes to the article. Is this ready for a rereview yet? —♦♦ AMBER(ЯʘCK) 18:48, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
Yes, it's now ready. Thanks for picking up the glitches. Regards, - Ohc ¡digame! 09:14, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
  • I wasn't fully satisfied by the copyedit, so I've tried my hand at it myself. We now need another reviewer to check this.—♦♦ AMBER(ЯʘCK) 15:20, 17 March 2016 (UTC)

I was just looking for something to review and so came to this as the oldest pending topic. I read through the article and then compared it with an external source in English: Gui Minhai: the strange disappearance of a publisher who riled China's elite. I notice that the Guardian reports some discreditable facts about the subject which do not seem to appear in the article – "His salacious and, many suspect, largely fabricated tales focused on the private lives of senior party leaders."; '“He’s mainly a businessman. Publishing to him is a means of earning money rather than ideology,” he said. “In his books there is a lot of guessing also about political gossip rather than actual fact.” Gui had done well out of his almost decade-long career in publishing.'

So, while it's an interesting story, it seems to be too controversial for us. Important policies like WP:BLP and WP:NPOV are at issue here but it seems difficult to present the topic in a neutral way when the facts about the supposed abduction and confession are conjecture or disputed. The topic is coming across to me as a matter of righting great wrongs but, as we're an encyclopedia, this is not the right place to hash this out. The article is currently based upon many Chinese language sources but anyone who has sufficient fluency in Chinese to verify these is likely to have an axe to grind. I think this should have to pass a GA review or similar before we feature it on our front page. Andrew D. (talk) 12:58, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
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