Template:Did you know nominations/Herr Christ, der einig Gotts Sohn
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The result was: promoted by Carabinieri (talk) 20:54, 28 February 2013 (UTC).
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Herr Christ, der einig Gotts Sohn
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- ... that Elisabeth Cruciger's hymn "Herr Christ, der einig Gotts Sohn" was the first Lutheran hymn by a female author, published with 18 songs by Martin Luther in the Erfurt Enchiridion (pictured)?
- Reviewed: Whalsay Parish Church
Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nominated at 20:19, 23 February 2013 (UTC).
- As the first printed German hymn by a female writer, this might qualify for March, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:44, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
Article is new enough and long enough. I found no copyvios, nor did the Copyvio Detector turn up anything. Hook is interesting; indeed the first part alone would be sufficient. The 2nd part of the hook is supported by a German book, which I can AGF on. However, that first part of the hook - that it is the first Lutheran hymn by a female author - seems to be missing from the current article text. Less significantly, there are two unsourced single-sentence paragraphs, which are contrary to the requirement of at least one inline citation per paragraph. Rlendog (talk) 21:36, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
- The two sentences come from the German Wikipedia. They will be sourced by the literature but I don't know specifically. We can comment them out until DYK is over, or assum good faith. There was no female author in the first Lutheran hymnal. If we can't show that there was no other female author in the second Lutheran hymnal (no article yet), we can shorten it by saying:
- ALT1: ... that in 1524, Elisabeth Cruciger's hymn "Herr Christ, der einig Gotts Sohn" was the only song by a female author published in the Lutheran hymnal Erfurt Enchiridion (pictured)? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:49, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
- For the two unreferenced sentences, maybe those could just be combined into longer paragraphs with the other single sentence paragraphs in those sections, at least for now. It should be ok for dyk to have some unreferenced sentences in the article, but unreferenced paragraphs are a problem (even, apparently, single sentence paragraphs). On the other hand, I don't see the fact in the ALT1 hook mentioned in the article as it currently stands now either. Rlendog (talk) 17:29, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
- I doubled the references for the two sentences. The organ compositions by Sweelinck and Schein are sourced by their free scores. - The sentence mentioning the ALT1 fact is "In the Enchiridion, the hymn appeared with 25 others, 18 by Martin Luther, three by Paul Speratus, one or two by Justus Jonas, one by Erhard Hegenwald, and one attributed to Jan Hus." - It is too long for DYK, the 25 other hymns are by males. This is in the source, and also in Wiki source on the Enchiridion. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:44, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
