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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by 97198 (talk) 05:07, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

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Paul Rapsey Hodge[edit]

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Source is ref #4 "The first steam fire engine ever built or used in the United States was one made by Mr. Paul R. Hodge for the Matteawan Insurance Company, of New York."
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Created by Doug Coldwell (talk) and 7&6=thirteen (talk). Nominated by Doug Coldwell (talk) at 20:20, 19 March 2017 (UTC).

  • Hi, great article! It is long enough, new, and the sources do back up the hook. QPQ review is done and there are no obvious copyright violations (11% is the highest, and it's from the name of the society he was part of). Hook is very interesting. I have a few small concerns with the article, though this isn't related to the hook at all. (1) 1871 is listed as his death date but there is no source or mention in the body paragraphs for this, just the intro. Please add it in the body paragraphs with the appropriate source. (2) the first fire engine in the United States that was steam powered.[2][3][4][5] – I get that this is the hook, but don't you think this might also be a WP:CITEKILL? No big deal here, just a thought. I guess two sources should be more than enough. Or perhaps spreading them around to write more may be better. Your choice! ComputerJA (☎ • ✎) 04:49, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
  • Comment Added death date and source to main body under a separate section header.
As to the citations, all four of those books and the one website support the hook, and use the hooks words in haec verba. The references are used elsewhere, and the format is WP:SFN. This was not some attempt to make this subject more important than it actually is. So your reliance upon WP:CITEKILL seems overkill and misguided. Removing the specific in line references makes little or no sense, IMO. This is a problem of Too many notes. Please 7&6=thirteen (☎) 11:50, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
ComputerJA Added a note and moved them around per your request. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 12:31, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
Gotcha, looks good to me now. Like I said, this was a very minor (mostly aesthetic) concern. This has no bearing on the DYK process, but I wanted the article to be 100% across the board since the hook is catchy and I think it may get a lot of views. Thank you for addressing it and explaining your reasoning. Everything else checks out and this looks ready to go! ComputerJA (☎ • ✎) 12:49, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
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