Template:Did you know nominations/Saturnalia
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: rejected by BlueMoonset (talk) 16:08, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
Unfortunately ineligible for DYK due to past OTD appearances.
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Saturnalia
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Dice players in a wall painting from Pompeii
- ... that some of the customs associated with the ancient Roman holiday of Saturnalia may have influenced medieval Christmas traditions, such as the exchanging of gifts, lighting of Advent candles, and the election of a "Lord of Misrule"? Source: "As a result of the close proximity of dates, many Christians in western Europe continued to celebrate traditional Saturnalia customs in association with Christmas and the surrounding holidays.[98][100][12] Like Saturnalia, Christmas during the Middle Ages was a time of ruckus, drinking, gambling, and overeating.[12] The tradition of the Saturnalicius princeps was particularly influential... During the late medieval period and early Renaissance, many towns in England elected a "Lord of Misrule" at Christmas time to preside over the Feast of Fools.[100][12]... The custom of gift-giving at Christmas time resembles the Roman tradition of giving sigillaria[105] and the lighting of Advent candles resembles the Roman tradition of lighting torches and wax tapers.[105][100]"
- ALT1:... that, during the ancient Roman holiday of Saturnalia, masters would serve meals to their slaves? Source: "Saturnalia was characterized by role reversals and behavioral license.[5] Slaves were treated to a banquet of the kind usually enjoyed by their masters.[5] Ancient sources differ on the circumstances: some suggest that master and slave dined together,[42] while others indicate that the slaves feasted first, or that the masters actually served the food. The practice might have varied over time.[7]
- Comment: I was the one who actually brought it up to GA status, but Cynwolfe did most of the actual work on the article back in 2012, so I thought I would give her credit for it, since she clearly is the one most responsible for the current state of the article. I saw that Crumpled Fire had nominated the article for GA back in 2014, but did not respond to the review, so Chiswick Chap was forced to fail it, but he left a note saying that he would come back and review it if anyone else wanted to take up the task, so, two days ago (three years after it was initially nominated), I nominated it again and he came back to review it. I wrote almost the entire "Influence" section, most of the lead, added some images, reorganized the article, formatting the references, and made some other significant changes, but most of the content in the body of the article dates back to Cynwolfe's revisions. --Katolophyromai (talk) 21:30, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
Improved to Good Article status by Cynwolfe (talk) and Katolophyromai (talk). Nominated by Katolophyromai (talk) at 21:30, 5 February 2018 (UTC).
- COMMENT: The submitted image does not have any connection to either of the proposed hooks. David notMD (talk) 18:49, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
General eligibility:
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Hook eligibility:
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Image eligibility:
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Invalid status "n" - use one of "y", "?", "maybe", "no" or "again"
- @Farang Rak Tham: I see. I apologize; I did not know the article was ineligible. I have also nominated the articles Pythagoras, Jonah, Anunnaki, and Satan for DYK, if you would rather review one of those instead, since I am assuming those are probably still eligible. --Katolophyromai (talk) 01:52, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
- Okay, no problem. I also got five DYKs left. So maybe we can help each other. Please note, though, that someone has already started to assess Jonah.--Farang Rak Tham (talk) 02:06, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
- @Farang Rak Tham: I see. I apologize; I did not know the article was ineligible. I have also nominated the articles Pythagoras, Jonah, Anunnaki, and Satan for DYK, if you would rather review one of those instead, since I am assuming those are probably still eligible. --Katolophyromai (talk) 01:52, 9 February 2018 (UTC)