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Round symbols for illustrating comments about the DYK nomination The following is an archived discussion of Watermelon Stereotype's DYK nomination. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page; such as this archived nomination"s (talk) page, the nominated article's (talk) page, or the Did you knowDYK comment symbol (talk) page. Unless there is consensus to re-open the archived discussion here. No further edits should be made to this page. See the talk page guidelines for (more) information.

The result was: promoted by Ashwin147 (talk) 17:13, 11 April 2013 (UTC).

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Watermelon Stereotype

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1909 Coon card

  • ... that while many early-20th century "Coon cards" (pictured) depicted blacks as having an unusual appetite for watermelons, a study has shown that blacks account for only eleven percent of the U.S.A's total watermelon consumption?

Created/expanded by Bonkers The Clown (talk). Self nominated at 08:46, 30 March 2013 (UTC).

  • Source says that Blacks account for 11 percent of the consumption and 13 percent of the population. I'm also kinda worried about the "survey" cited... the source doesn't state when, where, etc., so it is essentially unverifiable. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:46, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
  • Yep, that's good to go. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:09, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
  • Unfortunately, the hook is at 217 characters even when "(pictured)" is excluded, so some significant cutting needs to be done. ALT, please? (Note: please use "U.S.", not "U.S.A"; the "A" versions are deprecated in the WP:MOS.) BlueMoonset (talk) 04:23, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
  • ALT1: ... that although "Coon cards" (pictured) depicted blacks as having a large appetite for watermelons, a 1996 study showed they account for only eleven percent of the U.S.'s total watermelon consumption?
  • Trimmed. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:38, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
  • ALT1 length is okay; waiting to hear what Bonkers The Clown thinks of the proposed text. (I did change "an" to "a", use the U.S.-preferred periods, and remove the double quotes.) BlueMoonset (talk) 04:49, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
Er.... Don't mind, could "a great" be changed to "an animalistic"? Otherwise, I like it. ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 07:30, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
  • How's "large"? Let's avoid unnecessary inflammatory language, I think. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:34, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
  • (edit conflict) Edit I've changed the pic to an earlier one from 1904 I feel that it is better because the watermelon is larger, and emphasis on their "animalistic appetite" for the melons is increased. Likely to draw more attention; looks more outstanding than the 1910 one. ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 07:37, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
  • @Crisco: maybe you're right. I was thinking "animalistic" compared to plain "large" brought out more effect. But if you say so, large it is then. ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 07:37, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
    I'd like to avoid comparing blacks to animals, even if it may have been the form of denigration the "Coon cards" used. Besides, when we're already so close to the limit any extra characters are just baggage. The new pic is fine. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:40, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
How's this image? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:51, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
BEtter! I'se so happy yer found this! ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 07:53, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
  • Changed the image, using a crop. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:11, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
  • It looks as if Bonkers (as nominator/creator) has approved the ALT1 hook and as no one else has done anything with this for almost a week, I guess it's okay if I finish the review? I don't know what has been checked, so I'll just start from scratch:
  • Article - created new on the day of nomination 30 March, so new enough; excluding the poem it is 2537 characters of readable prose, so long enough; neutral (I tried to be particularly aware of this, as the topic matter might have raised 'racist' type concerns); at least one inline citation to every paragraph; no copy vios detected using earwig and running a few random refs through duplication detector; un-assessed, so not a stub.
  • Hook ALT1 - just squeezes within length criteria at 198 characters; correctly formatted; correctly cited/supported by ref #7 in final sentence of the 'History' section (it is bottom right corner of page 27 in that PDF); and interesting.
  • QPQ done - I hope it will be followed up a little further but the spirit of QPQ has been undertaken, so no reason to hold up this nomination; image is US PD (and as it was cropped by Crisco, who knows far more about image copyright than I do, I know it will be correct license); the cropped version of the pic certainly draws attention.

Copying ALT1 below, so it is easier for promoter to see. SagaciousPhil - Chat 16:11, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
ALT1: ... that although "Coon cards" (pictured) depicted blacks as having a large appetite for watermelons, a 1996 study showed they account for only eleven percent of the U.S.'s total watermelon consumption?

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