Template talk:Infobox comedian

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Convert to wrapper[edit]

I propose to convert this template to a wrapper of {{Infobox person}}. Code @ {{Infobox comedian/sandbox}} and {{Infobox comedian/testcases}}. Capankajsmilyo(Talk | Infobox assistance) 07:31, 27 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ping @Frietjes:@SMcCandlish:@Zyxw:@MSGJ:@Mr. Stradivarius:@Pigsonthewing:@Thumperward:@FlightTime:Capankajsmilyo(Talk | Infobox assistance) 04:00, 23 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, but this is a bad idea. The template currently has special microformat markup (| aboveclass = {{#if:{{{Current_members|}}}{{{current_members|}}}{{{Past_members|}}}{{{past_members|}}}|fn org|fn}}) for duos and other groups of comedians); which Infobox person does not have. (Incidentally, your test case page does not include such a case.) Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:31, 23 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
(Sorry for the necro, but I was about to ask the same thing, and didn't want to make more noise)
I think this is an argument for making Infobox:Comedy_Group a thing. The idea of infoboxes is to allow a single tweak to be carried over to all pages, and to make it easy for robots to pull out information they want. Making this a completely distinct template leads to duplicated work.
It really doesn't make sense to classify groups of comedians and single comedians under the same infobox in the first place. Users of this infobox that describe multiple comedy groups should be reworked: comedian is a singular noun, it doesn't make sense for it to be used for groups. Users who are describing a single person can continue to use this template, or maybe should just be moved to the generic person template.
The reason I bring this all up is because Greg Davies currently uses the comedian infobox, and his height is notable. Thus, I'd like to add it to the infobox, but because Comedian is a different box, I can't. I'm going to move the page over to a person infobox, since the fields added by Comedian are easily swapped over Calumapplepie (talk) 21:55, 13 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Besides the issue which Andy pointed out, the /sandbox version is missing some parameters which currently exist in the main template: misc, relatives, pre-nominals, parents, memorials, domesticpartner, notable_work, and pseudonym. In addition, the /sandbox contains some parameters which need to be added to the check for unknown parameters: employer, medium, active, and subject. -- Zyxw (talk) 19:00, 23 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
These sound like easily surmountable problems: Add the missing parameters, and wrap the values submitted to the meta-template in the microformat metadata code, as needed. Assuming it is needed (just because metadata is possible, or a microformat exists, doesn't mean we're obligated to use it).  — SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  02:44, 25 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comparison to put things into perspective[edit]

Parameter Infobox comedian Infobox person
1 No Yes
2 No Yes
3 No Yes
4 No Yes
5 No Yes
abovestyle Yes Yes
active Yes No
agent No Yes
alias No Yes
alma mater No Yes
alma_mater Yes Yes
alt Yes Yes
awards No Yes
baptised No Yes
baptized No Yes
birth_date Yes Yes
birth_name Yes Yes
birth_place Yes Yes
birthname No Yes
boards No Yes
body discovered No Yes
body_discovered No Yes
box_width No Yes
burial_coordinates No Yes
burial_place No Yes
callsign No Yes
caption Yes Yes
child Yes Yes
children Yes Yes
citizenship No Yes
credits No Yes
criminal charge No Yes
criminal penalty No Yes
criminal status No Yes
criminal_charge No Yes
criminal_charges No Yes
criminal_penalty No Yes
criminal_status No Yes
Current_members Yes No
current_members Yes No
death cause No Yes
death_cause No Yes
death_date Yes Yes
death_place Yes Yes
denomination No Yes
disappeared_date No Yes
disappeared_place No Yes
disappeared_status No Yes
domestic_partner Yes Yes
domesticpartner Yes Yes
education Yes Yes
embed Yes Yes
employer Yes Yes
era No Yes
ethnicity No Yes
family No Yes
father No Yes
footnotes Yes Yes
genre Yes No
height No Yes
height_cm No Yes
height_ft No Yes
height_in No Yes
height_m No Yes
home town No Yes
home_town No Yes
homepage No Yes
honorific prefix Yes Yes
honorific suffix Yes Yes
honorific_prefix Yes Yes
honorific_suffix Yes Yes
honorific-prefix Yes Yes
honorific-suffix Yes Yes
honors No Yes
honours No Yes
image Yes Yes
image caption No Yes
image size No Yes
image_caption No Yes
image_size Yes Yes
image_upright No Yes
imagesize Yes Yes
influenced No Yes
influences No Yes
judicial status No Yes
judicial_status No Yes
known No Yes
known for No Yes
known_for No Yes
label_name No Yes
landscape No Yes
medium Yes No
memorials Yes No
misc Yes Yes
misc2 No Yes
misc3 No Yes
misc4 No Yes
misc5 No Yes
misc6 No Yes
module Yes Yes
module2 No Yes
module3 No Yes
module4 No Yes
module5 No Yes
module6 No Yes
monuments No Yes
mother No Yes
movement No Yes
name Yes Yes
nationality Yes Yes
native_name Yes Yes
native_name_lang Yes Yes
net worth No Yes
net_worth No Yes
networth No Yes
nickname No Yes
nocat_wdimage No Yes
notable works No Yes
notable_work Yes No
notable_works Yes Yes
occupation No Yes
office No Yes
opponents No Yes
organisation No Yes
organization No Yes
organizations No Yes
other names No Yes
other_names No Yes
othername No Yes
parents Yes Yes
partner No Yes
partner(s) No Yes
partners No Yes
party No Yes
Past_members Yes No
past_members Yes No
post-nominals Yes Yes
pre-nominals Yes Yes
predecessor No Yes
pronunciation No Yes
pseudonym Yes No
relations No Yes
relatives Yes Yes
religion No Yes
residence No Yes
resting place No Yes
resting place coordinates No Yes
resting_place Yes Yes
resting_place_coordinates Yes Yes
restingplace No Yes
restingplacecoordinates No Yes
siglum No Yes
signature Yes Yes
signature alt No Yes
signature_alt No Yes
signature_size No Yes
spouse Yes Yes
spouse(s) No Yes
spouses No Yes
status No Yes
style No Yes
subject Yes No
successor No Yes
television No Yes
term No Yes
title No Yes
url No Yes
URL No Yes
website Yes Yes
works No Yes
years active No Yes
years_active Yes Yes
yearsactive No Yes

Convert to wrapper Capankajsmilyo(Talk | Infobox assistance) 02:19, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Template-protected edit request on 11 January 2022[edit]

Replace

| label5 = Born | data5 = {{br separated entries|{{{birth_date|}}}|{{{birth_place|}}}}}

with

| label10 = Born | data10 = {{Br separated entries|1={{#if:{{{birth_name|{{{birthname|}}}}}}|<div style="display:inline" class="nickname">{{{birth_name|{{{birthname|}}}}}}</div>}}|2={{{birth_date|}}}|3={{#if:{{{birth_place|}}}|<div style="display:inline" class="birthplace">{{{birth_place|}}}</div>}}}}

In order to show the birth name as part of the "Birth" section as in template:infobox person. –DMartin 05:44, 11 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done for now: looks like a consensus needs to be established for this alteration. Please garner the needed consensus before using the {{edit template-protected}} template again. P.I. Ellsworth - ed. put'r there 10:11, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The birth name should be included with the "Birth" section. If this is the change to the code needed for that result, I'm for it. ~BappleBusiness[talk] 06:33, 27 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Template-protected edit request on 26 July 2022[edit]

Make the title of the "birth name" parameter in nowrap, or some other way to make it on one line. It looks strange to have it on two lines, as people rarely have names that span two lines in normal zoom levels. Example of issue can be seen at George Carlin. --IWI (talk) 12:04, 26 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Done. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. put'r there 04:56, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]