User talk:Walter Görlitz/Archived Talk to 2013-12

CCM Magazine

Well, I just want to inform you that the publication is going to try to go back to a printed version, and now they are back to doing PDF's, so go look at Overcomer, for the way to site them now. This makes me a little bit angry and somewhat perplexed.HotHat (talk) 04:32, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

Intercontinental is not world

Well, I suppose you're going to do the same edits on Manchester United, FC Barcelona, and AC Milan articles. Cheers. 189.122.80.218 (talk) 22:25, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

No. You may do so though. Walter Görlitz (talk) 22:46, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

They all actually won a FIFA Club World Cups. Walter Görlitz (talk) 22:48, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

Still, Intercontinental is neither world nor worldwide, right? BTW, why won't you do the same on these articles? 189.122.80.218 (talk) 19:13, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

It depends on its use. It could be, as is the case with the event you're discussing, between two continents, which is not "world". However, when the FIFA Club World Cup is played, it's not just between two continents and so it affects more than just two and "world" or "international" would be a more appropriate heading. Walter Görlitz (talk) 19:15, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

I see, but I've found official FIFA source that, in fact, legitimizes the "world champions" title. [1] 189.122.80.218 (talk) 19:35, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

It indicates that they were winners of the Toyota Cup in 1981, although the larger discussion is about something a bit different: the evolution of the event. You may want to seek input at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football‎. Walter Görlitz (talk) 19:41, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

2013–14 FC Bayern Munich season‎ match summary

would you be able to take on a couple of match reports? Please and thanks. Kingjeff (talk) 05:14, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

Admins Ignore Abusive Editors

Hey Walter - I came to your page looking to ask for advice on this attempt at getting ANY admin to stop this fool when I saw the link of your own experience with trying to get admins to act against disruptive editors. After reading that, I think I'll just crawl into my hole and hope for the best... Take care! Ckruschke (talk) 16:05, 6 September 2013 (UTC)Ckruschke

I think that admins don't want to appear biased toward editors. Let me know how this turns out. Walter Görlitz (talk) 16:12, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

Which somewhat mirrors society today's "Tyranny of the Minority". Pass all these laws to protect "the disadvantaged" which largely results in the small minorities throwing their weight around and doing whatever they want while the majority has their rights infringed upon. Thanks for being there Walt! Ckruschke (talk) 16:57, 6 September 2013 (UTC)Ckruschke

He apparently freaked out with a swearfest which I've been told finally triggered admins interest. You can see the resolution that he's been blocked here: Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive810#Anti -religious POV-pusher engaged in disruptive edits. Scroll all the way down. Ckruschke (talk) 19:54, 9 September 2013 (UTC)Ckruschke

It's interesting what triggers some editors. I'm glad this finally found a satisfactory resolution. Walter Görlitz (talk) 20:00, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

Updating Template:Infobox album

Hi there, As a regular contributor to articles in the WP:MUSIC project I believe the following discussion will be of use to you. Please could you take the time to read the proposals at Template_talk:Infobox_album#Time_to_Update_the_Infobox_for_the_Industry_and_Accessibility regarding the updating of Infobox album. Kind regards → Lil-℧niquԐ 1 - { Talk } - 00:41, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

8:18

I took and put in excellently "solid record", just to let you know.HotHat (talk) 19:08, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

I noticed and it's much better that way. Thanks. Walter Görlitz (talk) 19:19, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

Some stroopwafels for you!

Thanks for correcting me on those edits. I plan to stay and help however I can, but I will try to do it the right way. Thanks again Shepherd of Fire (talk) 03:47, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

Mmmm. Stroopwafels! Walter Görlitz (talk) 03:57, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

Robin van Persie

Which table didn't it match? He now has 38 International goals in 78 matches. I don't edit articles without verification. 2.17, 10th September 2013 (IST) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Krzy32 (talk • contribs) 20:47, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

There was a table of international appearances and goals below the league statistics.

I realized that he played today and it was odd that only the goals were updated and not the matches played. It should be better now. Walter Görlitz (talk) 20:50, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

Indeed. I was going to update the no. of matches after the match was over. 2.25, 10 September 2013 (IST) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Krzy32 (talk • contribs) 20:55, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

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Come Now Sleep

You asked and I delivered it into existence.HotHat (talk) 14:15, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Your Edit of the Data Modeling Page Ken Evans 16:01, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

You deleted the external link to The ORM Foundation website on the grounds that it is "not a support site".

Sir you are wrong! I set up this site in 2007 expressly to provide support to the object-role modeling (ORM) community. Since then I and others have provided free support to thousands of ORM users. (Which you would have seen if you had spent any time actually looking at the forum.)

Object-Role modeling is arguably the most powerful method of data modeling that there is.

Please acknowledge your misjudgement and re-instate the external link!

I'm also rather curiuous to learn about the reasoning process that you used to dercide that my site is "not a support site". Please enlighten me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by The ken evans (talk • contribs) 16:01, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Phoenix club (association football)

I happened to be looking at the page Phoenix club (association football) and noticed that there was no North American section on the page. Surely some obvious clubs would fall under this category wouldn't they? After all, there appear to be 20-25 teams named after old NASL clubs alone. I wasn't exactly sure if there was a specific criteria needed to be considered a Phoenix club, and wanted your thoughts before I tackled the endeavor. Cheers! -Creativewill (talk) 02:41, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

Unfortunately, there are a number of editors who believe that when the original NASL folded all teams ceased to exist and that the current teams are not affiliated with them at all. The New York Cosmos have the strongest claim, but it's not clear why they're not there. Feel free to add other clubs as you see fit. Walter Görlitz (talk) 03:02, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

I wasn't just thinking of current teams using old NASL names. Wouldn't the current SJ Earthquakes be considered a phoenix of the SJ Clash? After all, there was no MLS team in San Jose for 2 years time during the change-over. Staff moved to Houston and the kind of started over, but kept the Clash's legacy. Likewise the same might be true if Miami gets an expansion team (as is the rumor) that would replace the Fusion. Also do phoenix clubs need to exist in the same league (a-la Philadelphia Atoms and Fury) as you hinted at? Or do the many incarnations of the Ft. Lauderdale Strikers count as phoenixes? In another case, I know that a new Edmonton Drillers team was created in the 1990s by their previous NASL owner Peter Pocklington to play indoors. So what does that make them? Do phoenixes need some tie-in to the previous team? I guess I'm a little confused as to what makes a team a phoenix... the name, the city, the supporters, or perhaps a combination? On the page the definition is: "...a club that is created following the demise of an existing club. Usually, the phoenix club is created and supported by the supporters of the club which has ended." That's a pretty broad brushstroke to me. Maybe I should just put a few up that I think are obvious and see what the response is.

Firefox

Hi Walter, I note that you've recently uploaded a new screenshot of Firefox for OS X. This does draw some issues with the choice of platform guidelines, but that's not why I'm querying the image. My installation of Firefox 24 on OS X 10.8 seems to have a different default state to the one you uploaded, and I was wondering whether this is because of something you have altered on your copy, or because you are using an older version of OS X; my copy has three buttons next to the search bar, rather than your two. My extra button is a bookmark display option and, as I only use the browser as a testbed, I know it is present in the default state. As we're meant to show software in its default state, could you clarify whether this icon is missing from the default state in the setup you are utilising? Thanks in advance!  drewmunn  talk  08:19, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

I have uploaded the screenshot posted by him separately i.e, File:20130920125838!Firefox Screenshot.PNG, and used in the infobox.Himanis Das  talk 13:23, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. That answers a longstanding problem. I initially did this because an editor on the Firefox article has been edit warring over keeping Windows. My copy has been modified from default. I didn't completely reset it before taking the screenshot. I should have set-up a default profile to take it. Walter Görlitz (talk) 14:04, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

Excellent, cheers; at least I'm not going mad!  drewmunn  talk  18:29, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

I don't know if my response qualifies as a true psychological assessment. Please consult a professional. Walter Görlitz (talk) 18:36, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

I fear that if I do that, I'd be incarcerated... Anyway, your image has remained almost undisturbed for an entire day; for the Firefox article, that's some achievement!  drewmunn  talk  18:52, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

JMeter is functional testing or unit testing?

If you look at JMeter's official website, https://jmeter.apache.org/usermanual/intro.html, then it clearly states that JMeter does two things performance testing/load testing, which I guess we both agree on.

But, it also states further down, in the History section https://jmeter.apache.org/usermanual/intro.html#history - "We redesigned JMeter to enhance the GUI and to add functional-testing capabilities."

So, hence I think JMeter is for functional testing. Also, I am currently using JMeter for functional testing.

Please give me any citations for JMeter being Unit testing.

In light of this, I am going to revert it back to functional testing on the wiki page. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.238.125.2 (talk) 19:59, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

That's a false dichotomy. It's primary purpose is non-functional testing, primarily performance testing. However it can be used for unit tests, which was being described. It can be used for functional testing, but those tests are generally unit tests. If you revert it, I'll do the same. Walter Görlitz (talk) 20:10, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

2013 Lamar Hunt U.S. Open Cup Final - Road to the final

Hi, if you could you check the spelling again in the article of 2013 Lamar Hunt U.S. Open Cup Final in the "Road to the final." Greetings.--Sebastián Alfaro 16 (talk) 20:51, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

Spelling was good, but caught a WP:OVERLINK and WP:NOTUSA. Walter Görlitz (talk) 22:04, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

Singe association?

From one of your edit summaries (article "Robin Thicke", infobox): "singe associations are not appropriate here". What's a "singe association"? Contact Basemetal here 15:34, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

"Single". Typo. See the infobox. Walter Görlitz (talk) 15:36, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

Red (Taylor Swift Album)

Thanks, I was combining both of them, but then I found my mistake. Thanks :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dste (talk • contribs) 02:45, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

Mistakes happen. I'm sure a better source will materialize. Still, with 3 million albums sold in the US already, a change of 100,000 isn't much! When some bands don't even sell 50,000 though... Glad it all worked out. Walter Görlitz (talk) 23:24, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

Request for feedback

Hi Walter, I noticed recently (here) that you are more familiar with the Wiki mores. I wonder if you could share your thought on this matter. Thank you. -- Mdd (talk) 19:27, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

Los Angeles, California v Los Angeles, California

I know what you're saying. They both redirect to the same place. What I meant by MOS was that sometimes it comes down to a matter of personal taste since as far as I know -- and please correct me if I am wrong -- MOS doesn't mandate either approach. I'll try not to step on your toes. Yours, Quis separabit? 14:16, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

That's not quite correct. Los Angeles, California redirects to Los Angeles. The latter doesn't redirect to the former. It actually isn't about personal taste or is a MOS issue. WP:NOTBROKEN is the guideline and "just to fix redirects" isn't one of them, but intentionally introducing a redirect isn't appropriate just because you like the way it looks more. There is no MOS to support that. Walter Görlitz (talk) 01:08, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

Jason Gray (musician)

Thanks for all the cool help and the great corrections you have suggested. As gratitude, I dedicate to you the song I am listening to for tens of times while working the page of this talented artist. It's called "More Like Falling in Love" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rzOdXJu5UA co-written with Jason Ingram. werldwayd (talk) 07:03, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. Walter Görlitz (talk) 13:54, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

2014 FIFA World Cup Final Draw

Hi.

I just noticed the 2014 FIFA World Cup Final Draw. Do you think speculations like "It is expected that Pot 2 will contain the qualifiers from Asia and North America,.." and so on should be on wikipedia?. I feel like that dont belong on wikipedia. WP:CRYSTAL? QED237 (talk) 20:53, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

Not unless the expectations are supported with a very reliable source. Walter Görlitz (talk) 21:20, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

The first paragraph is supported by BBC, but I consider removing it anyway. QED237 (talk) 21:25, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

If it's stated as being an expectation, I can't see he harm, but I do prefer certainties. Walter Görlitz (talk) 21:30, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

Melodic Metalcore

How would a semi-protect be put on the melodic metalcore page. People without accounts keep going on and changing genres. Shepherd of Fire (talk) 03:07, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

Great question. Wikipedia:Request page protection has the instructions and the place where you add the requests. Walter Görlitz (talk) 05:03, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

Concerning your AIV report

Hello!

I've blocked the editor you reported at AIV. Given that they've had a plethora of warnings and continue genrewarring regardless, it's a month-long block. Feel free to keep an eye on them - if they continue disrupting after the block expires, let me know. Regards, m.o.p 01:46, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. Walter Görlitz (talk) 01:57, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

2002 FIFA World Cup

I understand the premise behind WP:COMMONALITY, but there are still likely to be people who will insist on using "stadia", hence why I changed the word to "venues". Apart from changing it to a completely different word, there's no way anyone could find any fault with that. – PeeJay 00:39, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

Understanding the premise behind COMMONALITY and actually trying to obverse it are not the same. It's not whether some people who will insist on using the term, it's whether all editors will understand it. Walter Görlitz (talk) 00:42, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

And I'm pretty sure all editors will understand the word "venues", hence the change. This way there can be no controversy in the same way that there could be between "stadia" and "stadiums". – PeeJay 01:20, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

Excellent! Walter Görlitz (talk) 01:24, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

Real Madrid Captains

Normally, I would wait for an official annoucement from the web site, but it seems that the only reference is from the annual team Christmas party. After Raǘl's departure, three vice-captains have been each season since Iker Casillas was named captain (maybe because a goalkeeper is rarely subbed off???). Anyways, apparently the captains remain the same each year until they leave or retired. The party is about two months away so we can wait until then. Thanks Raul17 (talk) 01:29, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

OK Walter Görlitz (talk) 01:46, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

Nederlandse Omroep Stichting

So what's not professional about the Dutch national news service NOS? You deleted this edit on the basis that our public broadcasting news service is not a professional source. That seems kind of biassed. Do you have any explanation for your views? NeoRetro (talk) 18:44, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

It doesn't declare who the writer was. I stated that. There's no about indicating who does the writing. Walter Görlitz (talk) 20:38, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

November 2013

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This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

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Request reason:

I discussed the edits immediately after making them. See https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:67.169.76.129&diff=prev&oldid=579708728 and other edits at User talk:67.169.76.129 Walter Görlitz (talk) 1:56 pm, Today (UTC+0)

Decline reason:

Discussing edits before making them is all well and good. Discussing edits after making them is still edit warring. Yunshui 雲‍水 15:51, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

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Poor Walty is blocked :( LMAO knew it would happen someday.