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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- More wikis are now testing visual editor section editing for mobile users. You can read more.
- Admins on French and Polish Wikipedia can block someone from editing a page or a namespace. If your wiki wants to get these blocks before they are available to all wikis, you can tell the developers. [1][2]
Problems
- You will be able read but not edit most wikis for 30 minutes on 11 April at 05:00 (UTC). This is because of a hardware problem. You can see a list of the affected wikis. [3]
- A map update caused some problems on 29 March and 30 March. It was rolled back. [4]
- Pages on some Wikivoyages had problems with the top headline. This has been fixed. [5]
Changes later this week
- When you add an edit summary the VisualEditor will search your recent edit summaries in case you want to re-use one. This works in both the visual and wikitext modes on desktop. It also works on the mobile site. [6]
- The Wikimedia wikis will get a URL shortener. This will work from 11 April. You can read more. [7]
The
{{REVISIONID}}
magic word will no longer work. This is for performance reasons. When you preview a page it will return""
(empty string). When you read a page it will return"-"
(dash). For now this will only affect content namespaces. [8]The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 9 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 10 April. It will be on all wikis from 11 April (calendar).
Meetings
You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 10 April at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- You will be able to preview references. This means that when you hover over the link you will get a popup that shows you a preview of the reference. It will work much like page previews. This is so you don't have to go to the bottom of the page to see a reference. This will now be available as a beta feature on German and Arabic Wikipedia. [9][10]
The Wikidata JSON output will change. Empty containers will be serialised as empty objects. This is a breaking change that will affect tools that use JSON outputs and APIs. It will happen on 30 April. You can read more and see how to test your code.
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18:24, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
Tilly Keeper
just wondering about the revert of my edit on Tilly Keeper, is there a certain rule/guideline against using promo pics on actor pages? i thought the photo was much better & more up to date than the current one. – DarkGlow (talk) 20:40, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
- Yes - there's WP:FREER which states "Non-free content cannot be used in cases where a free content equivalent, with an acceptable quality sufficient to serve the encyclopedic purpose, is available or could be created'. AnemoneProjectors took a photo of Tilly Keeper at a meet and greet event at the BBC, therefore a free image exists, therefore a non-free image cannot be used. The image you replaced it with has restrictions when it can be used because it is copyrighted to the BBC.-- 5 albert square (talk) 20:58, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
- Also DarkGlow, just to add to what I said above, even if AnemoneProjectors hadn't taken a photo of Tilly Keeper, we still wouldn't be able to use the publicity photo on her article simply because she is still alive therefore another free alternative would still be possible. The only time we can really add something like a publicity photo to that type of article is when the subject of the article has died and that's because the likelihood of Wikipedia ever getting a free alternative is greatly reduced. You also have to be careful about how you apply photos to Wikipedia so the article isn't unnecessarily dominated by them. For example, when I met Shane Richie I took a photo of him and I uploaded it to Commons so either they or any of the other Wikipedias can use it if they want to, however the English Wikipedia isn't using it because there's no need for it because it doesn't show anything different to what the current image shows.-- 5 albert square (talk) 08:17, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
- I may be meeting Tilly at the Soap Awards in June, so if I remember, I’ll get a photo of her so it can be updated. That’ll be ok right? – DarkGlow (talk) 08:21, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
- AnemoneProjectors ^^^^ as it's your image that is potentially being replaced.-- 5 albert square (talk) 08:37, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
- If it's a better image then that's fine. Mine is badly backlit. — 🌼📽️AnemoneProjectors💬 08:43, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
- AnemoneProjectors ^^^^ as it's your image that is potentially being replaced.-- 5 albert square (talk) 08:37, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
- I may be meeting Tilly at the Soap Awards in June, so if I remember, I’ll get a photo of her so it can be updated. That’ll be ok right? – DarkGlow (talk) 08:21, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
- Also DarkGlow, just to add to what I said above, even if AnemoneProjectors hadn't taken a photo of Tilly Keeper, we still wouldn't be able to use the publicity photo on her article simply because she is still alive therefore another free alternative would still be possible. The only time we can really add something like a publicity photo to that type of article is when the subject of the article has died and that's because the likelihood of Wikipedia ever getting a free alternative is greatly reduced. You also have to be careful about how you apply photos to Wikipedia so the article isn't unnecessarily dominated by them. For example, when I met Shane Richie I took a photo of him and I uploaded it to Commons so either they or any of the other Wikipedias can use it if they want to, however the English Wikipedia isn't using it because there's no need for it because it doesn't show anything different to what the current image shows.-- 5 albert square (talk) 08:17, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
@AnemoneProjectors: BTW, I hope you don’t feel as though I’m trying to push your image out! I’ve never added an image to Wiki so it would be fun to have my image on Tilly’s article, if possible! Have a great day – DarkGlow (talk) 08:48, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
- @DarkGlow: Well, you sort of were lol but if you do meet her and get a photo then great, you can replace mine. She had the window behind her when I met her and I had the same problem with Jamie Borthwick and Rita Simons. I should have used the flash like I did for Emma Barton but it's too late now! :-) Is there anyone else you might be meeting at the Soap Awards? — 🌼📽️AnemoneProjectors💬 08:55, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
- @DarkGlow: Bryan Kirkwood could do with a better image should you happen to see him. We sort of have half his face in the current image!-- 5 albert square (talk) 09:05, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
- If only Danny-Boy Hatchard was going to be there. — 🌼📽️AnemoneProjectors💬 09:07, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
- I don't think he's been in anything since EastEnders so I'd say it's highly unlikely he'll be there. DarkGlow, AP actually received a Twitter message from Danny-Boy asking him to remove the image we had of him on the English Wikipedia, we think it was because the image showed that he had a small spot on his chin! Someone removed it from Wikipedia, he also asked for it to be removed from Commons but that'll never happen because it doesn't break any of their rules. Personally I'd be more worried that his filmography reads that he's basically done nothing since EastEnders!-- 5 albert square (talk) 09:20, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
- Oh he won't be there but if only he was lol — 🌼📽️AnemoneProjectors💬 09:26, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
- I’ll try to get photos of everyone from any of the 5 soaps, as I should be able to meet virtually everyone who steps on the red carpet, if they stop! And, if only Danny-Boy spent that time booking roles rather than surfing his own Wikipedia... – DarkGlow (talk) 09:37, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
- Well I look forward to seeing any photos you get! — 🌼📽️AnemoneProjectors💬 15:02, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
- I’ll try to get photos of everyone from any of the 5 soaps, as I should be able to meet virtually everyone who steps on the red carpet, if they stop! And, if only Danny-Boy spent that time booking roles rather than surfing his own Wikipedia... – DarkGlow (talk) 09:37, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
- Oh he won't be there but if only he was lol — 🌼📽️AnemoneProjectors💬 09:26, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
- I don't think he's been in anything since EastEnders so I'd say it's highly unlikely he'll be there. DarkGlow, AP actually received a Twitter message from Danny-Boy asking him to remove the image we had of him on the English Wikipedia, we think it was because the image showed that he had a small spot on his chin! Someone removed it from Wikipedia, he also asked for it to be removed from Commons but that'll never happen because it doesn't break any of their rules. Personally I'd be more worried that his filmography reads that he's basically done nothing since EastEnders!-- 5 albert square (talk) 09:20, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
- If only Danny-Boy Hatchard was going to be there. — 🌼📽️AnemoneProjectors💬 09:07, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
- @DarkGlow: Bryan Kirkwood could do with a better image should you happen to see him. We sort of have half his face in the current image!-- 5 albert square (talk) 09:05, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
Please comment on Wikipedia:Arbitration/Policy/Proposed amendment (April 2019)
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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- All wikis now have the TemplateWizard for the wikitext editor.
Changes later this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 16 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 17 April. It will be on all wikis from 18 April (calendar).
Meetings
You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 17 April at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- Wikidata will get a new constraint status called
suggestion
. This will change how theWikibaseQualityConstraints
constraint checking API works. [11][12] - You can test the
depicts
property for structured data on Commons.
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23:00, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
Please comment on Wikipedia talk:Tutorial
The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Wikipedia talk:Tutorial. Legobot (talk) 04:29, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- The advanced search function URL now shows which namespaces you search in. The namespace field is collapsed by default on the search page. You can also add new fields to the search interface through a hook. [13][14][15]
- The wikis now look slightly different in the mobile web version. [16]
Changes later this week
- There is no new MediaWiki version this week.
Meetings
You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 23 April at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- Wikipedia articles will have the
sameAs
meta property. It adds structured data. This makes it easier for search engines to find Wikipedia articles. It also makes it easier to reuse content. There will an A/B test. [17][18]
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19:08, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
Please comment on Template talk:Rfc
The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Template talk:Rfc. Legobot (talk) 04:28, 25 April 2019 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- The Wikipedia app for Android now invites users to add Wikidata descriptions to Wikidata objects that have Wikipedia articles but no Wikidata descriptions. It will only invite users who have added a number of Wikidata descriptions in the app without being reverted. This is to avoid spam and bad edits. [19][20]
Problems
- Tech News was late last week because of a MassMessage bug. Other newsletters had the same problem. [21]
Changes later this week
- You will see when you last refreshed the recent changes page. This is so you can see how recent the changes are. [22]
- When you write a comment in Structured Discussions but have not posted it yet your web browser will save it in
local storage
instead ofsession storage
. This means you do not lose them even if you close your web browser. Structured Discussions used to be called Flow. [23] - You will be able to turn off milestone notifications. Milestone notifications congratulate you when you have made certain numbers of edits. [24]
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 30 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 1 May. It will be on all wikis from 2 May (calendar).
Meetings
You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 1 May at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
The Wikidata
wb_terms
table will be dropped. This will affect some Wikidata tools. They need to be updated. The table has become too big which is causing problems. This will happen on 29 May. You can read more. You can ask for help if you need it.Wikimedia wikis will soon use a token when you log out. This changes how the API works. Some tools might need to be updated. [25]
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22:27, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
The Signpost: 30 April 2019
- News and notes: An Action Packed April
- In the media: Is Wikipedia just another social media site?
- Discussion report: English Wikipedia community's conclusions on talk pages
- Featured content: Anguish, accolades, animals, and art
- Arbitration report: An Active Arbitration Committee
- Traffic report: Mötley Crüe, Notre-Dame, a black hole, and Bonnie and Clyde
- Technology report: A new special page, and other news
- Gallery: Notre-Dame de Paris burns
- News from the WMF: Can machine learning uncover Wikipedia’s missing “citation needed” tags?
- Recent research: Female scholars underrepresented; whitepaper on Wikidata and libraries; undo patterns reveal editor hierarchy
- From the archives: Portals revisited
Please comment on Template talk:Country data New Caledonia
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Please help
There is an user that keeps edit-warring on my own talk page. I asked him to stop but he continues to vandalize. He did it a total of 21 times already. I would not complain about it but this situation needs to stop. This is really getting annoying. HÊÚL. (talk) 03:24, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
- HÊÚL. It's because they don't understand why you keep removing them. They're saying that they spoke to Sergecross73 who told them that the comment could be deleted as there was no replies apparently. Maybe you could post on their talk page explaining why you would like the comment kept? Also, please remember to include an edit summary whenever you are editing a page - including user talk pages. Edit summaries help other users understand your edits and could have prevented this at the start.-- 5 albert square (talk) 10:20, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
- First of all, there is not a "they", just a "he". Also Sergecross said to him that since it is my talk page I can delete or keep whatever I want. The reversion is the best reply he deserves. I never imagined that I needed to explain it because (I think) he is not a kid. And what about the edit warring and the 3RR? HÊÚL. (talk) 11:43, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
- I'm going to wait for @Sergecross73: to reply about this first.-- 5 albert square (talk) 22:25, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
- I think both editors are being silly. There’s no particular reason why the message needs to be kept or deleted. Both should stop wasting the time of other editors, and their own time, on this. Sergecross73 msg me 00:38, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
- Really sorry, I'll put a definite stop to this. I apologize for wasting other's time and I'll move on from this silliness. Thanks in advance. Namcokid47 (talk) 04:05, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
- I think both editors are being silly. There’s no particular reason why the message needs to be kept or deleted. Both should stop wasting the time of other editors, and their own time, on this. Sergecross73 msg me 00:38, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
- I'm going to wait for @Sergecross73: to reply about this first.-- 5 albert square (talk) 22:25, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
- First of all, there is not a "they", just a "he". Also Sergecross said to him that since it is my talk page I can delete or keep whatever I want. The reversion is the best reply he deserves. I never imagined that I needed to explain it because (I think) he is not a kid. And what about the edit warring and the 3RR? HÊÚL. (talk) 11:43, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
ArbCom 2019 special circular
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Administrators must secure their accounts
The Arbitration Committee may require a new RfA if your account is compromised.
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This message was sent to all administrators following a recent motion. Thank you for your attention. For the Arbitration Committee, Cameron11598 02:53, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
Administrator account security (Correction to Arbcom 2019 special circular)
ArbCom would like to apologise and correct our previous mass message in light of the response from the community.
Since November 2018, six administrator accounts have been compromised and temporarily desysopped. In an effort to help improve account security, our intention was to remind administrators of existing policies on account security — that they are required to "have strong passwords and follow appropriate personal security practices." We have updated our procedures to ensure that we enforce these policies more strictly in the future. The policies themselves have not changed. In particular, two-factor authentication remains an optional means of adding extra security to your account. The choice not to enable 2FA will not be considered when deciding to restore sysop privileges to administrator accounts that were compromised.
We are sorry for the wording of our previous message, which did not accurately convey this, and deeply regret the tone in which it was delivered.
For the Arbitration Committee, -Cameron11598 21:03, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
Please comment on Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)
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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Problems
- Special:Watchlist can show the wrong information. It does not always show which edits are read and which are unread. The developers are working on solving the problem. [26]
Changes later this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 7 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 8 May. It will be on all wikis from 9 May (calendar).
Meetings
You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 8 May at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
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16:27, 6 May 2019 (UTC)