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Your device need update dude ! Shame on you

That alphabet of Meetei language or Manipur People script. Awangba Mangang (talk) 12:41, 27 July 2018 (UTC)

@Awangba Mangang: Those characters looks fine in Firefox but not in Huggle. All undone. ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 12:42, 27 July 2018 (UTC)

I want one userbox of your style .

What should I have to write. Awangba Mangang (talk) 12:54, 27 July 2018 (UTC)

@Awangba Mangang: What kind of userbox? You can first look them up in Wikipedia:Userboxes/Galleries/All. ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 12:56, 27 July 2018 (UTC)

Can I will be having many userbox

1.Language (Meetei language) 2.Location 3.Vandalism 4.Script (Writing system) 5.Religion 6.Physics 9.Photo gallery works

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Awangba Mangang (talkcontribs) 13:04, 27 July 2018 (UTC)

Majority of them are in Wikipedia:Userboxes/Galleries/All. You can look them up first. ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 13:06, 27 July 2018 (UTC)

I have seen something about languages, Religion, Script . But how to start please can you tell me

--Awangba Mangang (talk) 13:37, 27 July 2018 (UTC)

External Link Disapproval

Hi AE,

Could you please let me know in details why my external link is blocked.

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 13:09, 27 July 2018 (UTC)

Your external links can't be blocked. They are removed because you (probably) didn't read WP:EL. ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 13:13, 27 July 2018 (UTC)


Thanks, but the source does say reportedly originated in Ghana.[1] The IP seems to be making things up. Doug Weller talk 13:27, 27 July 2018 (UTC)

@Doug Weller: Np. ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 23:57, 27 July 2018 (UTC)

Last Change

" Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Jeff Novitzky ‎. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Repeated vandalism may result in the loss of editing privileges. Thank you. Acroterion (talk) 02:41, 28 July 2018 (UTC)"

He okay'ed himself. Here is the proof. It is not vandalism. This is a long running tradition. Please stop reverting the changes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:2000:CFC0:101:38BB:8620:D2C5:3BA8 (talk) 02:48, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

@2604:2000:CFC0:101:38BB:8620:D2C5:3BA8: Please see my talk page & the article's talk page and stop posting this. -★- PlyrStar93 Message me. 02:51, 28 July 2018 (UTC)
@PlyrStar93: This is not the first time users asking (or blaming) me about a revert that wasn’t even done by me :( ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 04:11, 28 July 2018 (UTC)


My contribution to was just a mistake... I must have done something wrong without realising!! Surprised about how easy it is :( I tried to revert everything I did when alerted I had done my "first contribution" to wikipedia...) I'm just translating articles to catalan, I don't think I can contribute to the english Wiki yet! So sorry!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eli Moretó (talkcontribs) 10:14, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

Barnstar of Reversion Hires.png The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
Great work on reverting Vandalism. Binod Basnet Talk 12:55, 28 July 2018 (UTC)
@Binod Basnet: Thanks. Seems you use Huggle too. Good tool. ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 13:02, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

Lauren Southern

Good morning/afternoon/evening(don’t know your time zone,) Can you please provide another citation/link to Lauren Southern’s page when you talk about her views on women’s leadership? The link leads to The Australian, but no actual article. Also, please do not remove my other edit without providing a valid reason. Thank you, J072318 J072318 (talk) 17:23, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

  • J072318, there is no requirement that such a link be provided. WP:AGF, for instance, asks us to accept that cited articles are legitimate, even if not internet-accessible. I see now that you've been in hot water before and I suggest you stay out of it. Drmies (talk) 17:31, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

Disruptive Editing........

Can you explain this please? Level 3 Warning Thanks --RebeccaSaid (talk) 19:03, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

@RebeccaSaid: Oh since you removed content without explaining why so I’d like to remind you of that. Regarding the level 3, Pharaoh of the Wizards left a level 2 warning earlier this month so Huggle automatically made it level 3 (Bad luck :P). Next time if you wanna remove content or shorten an article please explain in your edit summary since RCPs will not know what are you doing and they will not bother the check the talk page before they revert and warn. Removal of content without adequate rationale is disruptive editing. ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 23:01, 28 July 2018 (UTC)
Hilarious! So you rush to issue warnings to new editors for a simple, and pretty irrelevant, error? No assistance? No advice? That's probably one of the reasons this toxic project struggles to retain editors. Anyway....... --RebeccaSaid (talk) 23:39, 28 July 2018 (UTC)
@RebeccaSaid: Need assistance? Either go to WP:HD or WP:TEA. My advice is use edit summary for EVERY SINGLE edit. You think it’s irrelavent because you didn’t even bother to read policies or guidelines and create disputes. Well you can ignore me and continue to not use edit summaries, it’s up to you. ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 00:29, 29 July 2018 (UTC)

Hello! How could I have improved on my edit?

I made an edit on the Matrix (communication protocol) page. I wanted to leave a link that explained what 'other implementations' exist, but it wasn't an edit made in confidence. Would you mind suggesting how the edit should have been made? I'd find it useful :)

Many regards, kbenayak — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kbenayak (talkcontribs) 14:23, 29 July 2018 (UTC)

@Kbenayak: Sorry I used the wrong template. You should not add external links to the body of an article, instead put it in the external links section. (and check if the link already exists in the pool of references) ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 14:28, 29 July 2018 (UTC)

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Sin Perdón Info

Hi there,

My name is Ismael Bustamante. I tried to edit info related to my band "Sin Perdón" from Chile because basically is incomplete and some information is just wrong. I have been playing in the band for more than 15 years. I would like to improve the information available and help to put in the web correct and wider information. My email is

If you could help me to update the info, pictures, songs and all the info which appears as official, but it is not, I will really appreciate it

Thank you in advance

best — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 19:01, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

Sin Perdón Info

Hi there,

My name is Ismael Bustamante. I tried to edit info related to my band "Sin Perdón" from Chile because basically is incomplete and some information is just wrong. I have been playing in the band for more than 15 years. I would like to improve the information available and help to put in the web correct and wider information. My email is

If you could help me to update the info, pictures, songs and all the info which appears as official, but it is not, I will really appreciate it

Thank you in advance

best — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 19:03, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

Undid revision of page A23 -- I think you made a mistake

Dear Abelmoschus Esculentus,

I got a message from you to say you had reverted my changes to the page A23 because they were "not constructive". I was simply correcting a typo as identified in moss. In this case, the page says 'antigenetically' but the explanation in the second part of the sentence is for 'antigenically' and the wiktionary page for 'antigenically' is cited. As a PhD student in genetics, I can assure you that 'antigenically' is the correct word here. I hope you do not mind that I undid your reversion; I am new to wikipedia editing and do not want to step on any toes.

Many thanks, Sherlotte (talk) 12:45, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

@Sherlotte: Ok thanks for reminding me. I quickly searched the dictionary and it doesn't have this word (so I reverted it). Hope you be a great editor in the field of genetics! ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 12:49, 31 July 2018 (UTC)


thank you! ill use another!--Before the Storm (talk) 12:53, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

Change to Iain Hastie

I have attempted twice to make a change to the spelling of my uncles name. I have also amended his country of birth to scotland and date of death 31/7/2018. Place of death New Zealand. I do not understand why you will not accept these changes. I am just trying to correct public record. Thanks. Brian Hastie

You need to provide a reliable source. All content in Wikipedia must be written in reliable sources. You may read WP:V, WP:RS and WP:CS. ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 12:55, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

Before the Storm

They're (probably) trolling; see my posts and their post at WP:AIV. Jc86035 (talk) 12:55, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

@Jc86035: I think so. Remember WP:RBI and WP:DENY. Cheers. ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 12:57, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
@Jc86035: I removed their post in WP:AIV. Ss112 is one of the greatest editor in music articles. (courtesy ping) ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 13:03, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

Reverting Sydney Youth Band Edits

Hello AE, you have reverted many of my edits to the Sydney Youth Band page and labelled them as vandalism, however, I am a member of the Sydney Youth Band and all of the information that I have put onto the page is 100% accurate and up to date. I would greatly appreciate if you would refrain from reverting my edits. Thank you. Mmmmmnmm (talk) 13:58, 31 July 2018 (UTC) MMMMMNMM

@Mmmmmnmm: The content added by you is unsourced and not adhering to our neutral point of view policy. All content in Wikipedia must be written based on reliable sources. Details explained on your talk page. ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 14:00, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

About Ty Dincer

Hi there,

I am writing with regards to this page --

There's a few things which are concerning and should be deleted.

The controversies written around Ty Dincer (criminal conviction and corruption allegation) is proven to be untrue. I am happy to provide the official police clearance certificate (through another channel), but due to Wikipedia link protection policy, I can't share it with this message.

Also, on the section on Ty Dincer's personal life has zero citations and references, and are therefore, defamatory. As such, I'd strongly encourage you to take down such paragraphs on these sections:

- The introductory paragraph which says -- Dincer left Abu Dhabi Investment Council amidst conviction of criminal charges by the Abu Dhabi Court and corruption allegations.

- The sentence in the "Career" section which says -- In June 2018, Dincer left the company amidst conviction of criminal charges. Dincer was also suspected of corruption.

- The sections on Controversies (Criminal Conviction and Corruption Allegation)

- The sections on Personal Life

Side note -- Many of the citation links within this Wikpedia entry (such as this one -- are also not working at all, or irrelevant to Ty Dincer (such as this -

And final note -- The original Ty Dincer page (see link -- has been taken down too.

Whitehat123 (talk) 17:26, 31 July 2018 (UTC)Whitehat123

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Stop Clowning Around

Warning icon Please refrain from clowning around on Oshwah's talk page I am supposed to talk page stalk not you! Screw you! Quit clowning around. This is your only warning. Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 20:23, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

@Thegooduser: I suggest you to focus on your work instead of harassing Oshwah by sending tons of emails. You can talk page stalk, but users posting messages there seek attention and replies from Oshwah himself. I occasionally reply messages that I can handle and what I think Oshwah will also do. Face-smile.svg ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 00:28, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
The emails I send him are revdel requests.Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 22:18, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
@Thegooduser: Actually you should email the Oversight team. It’s faster and better (since administrators cannot view suppressed edits). You know Oshwah is a busy man, he cannot handle both real life and Wikipedia matters at the same time. There are 49 oversighters in Wikipedia that can handle your request. ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 00:26, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

Deva (Hinduism)

Please look at the history of changes to that article, and you'll see that an editor called GenuineArt reverted only one of a series of bad edits by an IP address. I reverted the rest of them. Please read the article, look at the changes, and decide for yourself. But I would seriously like to know if you still feel that "Shiva the god of destroy," is more properly worded than "Shiva the destroyer,". Wisdom Goddess (talk) 13:35, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

@Wisdom Goddess: You mean This IP? ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 13:36, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
Yes, that other editor reverted only the very last of his bad edits on that article. All of them should have been reverted, not just the last one. Wisdom Goddess (talk) 13:42, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
@Wisdom Goddess: Ok I thought you were reverting the last edit by GenuineArt. ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 13:45, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Track listing

Hi, thanks for telling me that track listing is two words I'll change them all back. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Melanieowen (talkcontribs) 13:51, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

@Melanieowen: No problem. Please sign your post by adding four tildes (~~~~) in the end next time. ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 13:54, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

New Userbox!

H3llo! I would lik3 you to mak3 m3 a n3w us3rbox.I fr3qu3ntl3y lik3 to play th3 drums. Can you h3lp with this. Thanks. Huff slush7264 20:39, 1 August 2018 (UTC) user:Huff slush7264


I did explain. (talk) 13:12, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

It does exist. ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 13:13, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
What? You said I should explain my edit, but if you look, you'll see that I did explain. (talk) 19:13, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
I mean the website still exists. You did explain, but sometimes your explanation needs to be adequately describing what you are doing. You said it was a dead link, so I checked and found that it still exists. But the article is deleted so nvm. ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 00:03, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

Ellektra (2004 film)

I saw that you undid my edit to Ellektra (2004 film). Could you please explain what was wrong with it, so that I can improve myself for future edits.
Thank you TheZoodles (talk) 18:04, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Content dispute. Please use talk page. ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 00:31, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

Blue Iguana

Hello AE

You have just deleted my contribution to the Blue Iguana page.

I typed " or for the 2018 Sam Rockwell film Blue Iguana type in the search box " Blue Iguana 2018".

As the film has the same name as the animal there is an issue with having the film appear on a search so people can read about it.

I have read the disambiguation page on wikipedia and can't fathom them out, perhaps you could help?

kind regards BI Blue Iggy (talk) 15:58, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

@Blue Iggy: Hello. I didn't delete revert your edits in Blue Iguana, Blue iguana and Blue Iguana (2018 film). Regarding Blue Iguana, it's better to leave it as a redirect since there are only two similar articles. ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 01:58, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

Thank you

For helping out with the Floss McPhee business. Cheers, 2601:188:180:11F0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:34, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

Always happy to help :) ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 03:36, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

Deleted my Edit on Lijo Jose Pellissery's page

You undid my edit telling me to add a citation. My one line edit was a general fact related to him that all his films are scored by the same person for which a source or citation cannot be specifically included. — Preceding unsigned comment added by UnofficialEditor1 (talkcontribs) 09:10, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

(watching) I agree that that revert was (unsurprisingly, perhaps, by now) a misuse of rollback; but, UnofficialEditor1, verifiability is not just policy, it's a pillar of Wikipedia, and you really shouldn't be adding unsourced material—particularly to biographies of living people. —SerialNumber54129 paranoia /cheap sh*t room 10:56, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
@Serial Number 54129: Ok so you agree that using rollback to revert edits that violate a core policy with adequate edit summaries is a misuse of rollback. By your logic, Jim1138, Donner60, PolicyReformer, Jusdafax, Z0, ToBeFree, GorillaWarfare or even Oshwah are all misusing rollback (note that the reverts are more or less the same as this). I also suggest you read User talk:Oshwah#Hello. ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 11:20, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
Please let me know when you plan to start the ANI thread on that one, I want to make sure I've got the popcorn ready :-D Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:40, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
@Ritchie333: No, I am not one of the children that run to ANI because they have anything not satisfied. ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 11:44, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
(for clarification, that was a joke - as if starting an ANI thread entitled "abuse of rollback by GorillaWarfare and Oshwah" could be anything else :-P Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:59, 15 August 2018 (UTC))
I will really prepare popcorn if there is a thread called "abuse of rollback by GorillaWarfare and Oshwah". Rollback is probably the most important thing for them :) ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 12:08, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
  • Fundamentally, rollbacks such as this, and particulalry combined with assertions such as this one indicate a wholly unsatisfactory understanding of basic policy: viz, WP:V, which is a core prerequisite for being granted the tool in the first place. Be mindful. —SerialNumber54129 paranoia /cheap sh*t room 11:28, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
(edit conflict) The two diffs you provided are the same, so you mean two same things combine together?
Changed, I thank yow. —SerialNumber54129 paranoia /cheap sh*t room 11:47, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
You're welcome. I'll keep my justification unchanged below :) ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 11:58, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
There is no justification for your misunderstanding of WP:V&. —SerialNumber54129 paranoia /cheap sh*t room 12:17, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
But you didn't provide evidence that I am misunderstanding WP:V. I identified the edit as vandalism at first, not a WP:V issue, and I explained it to the user as a mistake made by myself. I admit that the ALLCAPS is kinda irrelevant, but I mentioned nothing about WP:V. ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 12:27, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
As mentioned in the thread in Oshwah's talk page, using rollback to revert what you legitimately believe is vandalism to find out later that it isn't is different than misusing the tool to revert edits that rollback isn't allowed to be used for is different. Also, the diff you provided (i.e. the revision I reverted) is not addition of content, it's a change of reference. Since WP:V only applies to content (not to references itself), therefore it is unrelated IMO. Have learnt a lesson already ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 11:42, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) The relevant policy says, "contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced should be removed immediately and without discussion". Of the edit in question, is stating that Lijo Jose Pellissery collaborates with Prashant Pillai contentious? Not obviously, but maybe it is for reasons I don't understand. In any case, Abelmoschus Esculentus's revert was a good-faith edit to preserve the quality of the encyclopedia, but I don't think it unquestionably falls into edits covered by the rollback guideline. And the reason for that in this case, is rollback doesn't allow you to provide a edit summary, and so UnofficialEditor1 had to come here, scratching his head over what the problem was. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:38, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
@Ritchie333: My edit summary for that is "Reverted edits by UnofficialEditor1 (talk): not providing a reliable source (WP:CITE, WP:RS) (HG) (3.4.5)", not the same as standard rollback. I also left a level 1 template at the user's talk page. ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 11:46, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
Evidently it wasn't enough though; if it was, you wouldn't have this discussion on your talk page. Anyway, I have found a source and added it to the article, so I think all's well that ends well. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:51, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
Thanks. Actually I have prepared a template before, used in situations which one complains me for reverting their edit and claims that the information added is correct:
== Why do we need to provide reliable sources? ==
For information on referencing citations in Wikipedia articles, see Help:Footnotes, Wikipedia:Inline citation, and Help:Referencing for beginners.
~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 11:55, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

How i published page about Author

How i published page about Author


Whether you think it helpful or unhelpful what I wrote was correct, whereas the original to which you have now reverted is/was meaningless - anyone editing a page with the word 'enantiomer' in it should understand what it means and have already corrected the meaningless entry, makes the whole enterprise kind of pointless if you delete edits pointing out errors, but if you prefer to have a superficially nice sounding entry which means nothing then knock yourself out

Telesystem Submission

Hello Abelmoschus Esculentus,

I recently submitted an article for Telesystem. You who a response saying that the copy sounded as an advertisement rather than a neutral point a view. Telesystem has 2 sister companies that were cleared on Wikipedia with similar content. I am not sure why this one was denied? Would you be able to give me an explanation as to what to fix in order to resubmit?

steve harvey edit


Thank you for reverting my edits.

(......) Hello AE Trust you are good, i am indeed grateful to you forreverting my edits . please may be needing your help on how to writer a better article that would be visible on search engine. Thank you in anticipation. Best regards


There seem to be quite a few RS on that incident. One would think Mamamoo's manager, agent, and crew would catch that sort of thing. Cheers Jim1138 (talk) 08:37, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

I won't say Korean sources are necessarily not reliable. There are reliable sources such as Billboard amd The Korea Herald though ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 08:43, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
No question on Korean sources being better or worse than others. I was saying that Mamamoo's team should have been aware of blackface issues and prevented it. Mamamoo ‎PP has been upgraded to 30/500 Cheers Jim1138 (talk) 19:47, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
Good. I think their aim is to prevent this “scandal” from spreading out and hurt their reputation. Quite clear. ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 00:06, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
Hello, are you aware blackface is not something you learn in South Korea? This is why many idols have done the same mistake. Since you have enough time to "protect" this page, why don't you also look up big bang and other groups who have done problematic issue?

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Orlando: a Biography

Hi, I did spend a great deal of time trying to sort out the section called 'Analysis'. You have now reverted to the form it had before, which contains the following problems: 1. It is all in one undifferentiated section, which is extremely long to wade through, without subheadings to steer the reader. 2. It contains a lot of material taken from a fairly limited number of sources, and not all of the strongest academic quality. 3. It has no real order, launching in with a comment about the Romany which, while interesting, is too specific and narrow to be the first point. 4. There are a number of repetitions.

So, I was intending to sort it out. I have spent some time trying to re-order the material, but without making any radical changes to the content. All I have done is to re-group it, add a few minor points of detail and remove some of the repetitions. As a consequence, I merged the material with that form the previous, very brief section. I also changed the title from 'Analysis' to "Themes' because that is the more common title for this sort of section for many other classics of English Literature. Obviously, the next stage would be to revise the material in stages, since this is a more hefty operation but I suspect that many readers have just thought the task too large in its original form. I hoped that, in this form, it would be easie for a number of contributors to improve this article enormously. I would also intend to add at least one more section, on the theme of the house that is central to the novel, Knole. If you look at my plentiful additions and revisions to that article on Wikipedia, you will see my approach.

For these reasons, I would like to ask you to return the text to my version, knowing that this does no harm to the body of the article at present, makes it more intelligible and navigable, and begins what will no doubt be a long process to improve the strength of the article. John Ediva (talk) 15:20, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

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A selection of MDMA pills, which are sometimes used as a club drug.

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special:diff/853142497 —SerialNumber54129 paranoia /cheap sh*t room 12:19, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

@Serial Number 54129: That was not related to the Help Desk itself and it's a clear cut case... To revert obvious vandalism and other edits where the reason for reverting is absolutely clear ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 12:22, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
WP:VANDALISM says otherwise: It has to be deliberately intended to obstruct or defeat the project's purpose. That was clearly a misplaced post and in any case of a harmless, if odd, nature. I advise caution. —SerialNumber54129 paranoia /cheap sh*t room 12:26, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
Seems I didn't quote it well: and other edits where the reason for reverting is absolutely clear. How about this? ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 12:29, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
No. You continue to lack a sufficiency of justification. Happy editing though! —SerialNumber54129 paranoia /cheap sh*t room—Preceding undated comment added 12:38, 6 August 2018‎
Really nothing to say besides this? Face-wink.svg ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 12:45, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
Say it at PERM/RB when you are requesting the return of your userright Tongue.png —SerialNumber54129 paranoia /cheap sh*t room 12:55, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
Nah I don't wanna experience the situation L293D is experiencing right now. I feel empathetic about him :( That was not fair TBH. ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 13:06, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
I agree. But all it takes is one TSD or equivalent...hence the title of this section... —SerialNumber54129 paranoia /cheap sh*t room 13:16, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
@Serial Number 54129: Just curious, how many pages are being watched by you? ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 13:22, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
Per WP:ECHO, for a ping to work, it needs to be added at the same time as the signature & timestamp! —SerialNumber54129 paranoia /cheap sh*t room 13:39, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
─────────────────────────You haven't answer my question :) Thanks for the link. ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 13:46, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
I know. No problem! —SerialNumber54129 paranoia /cheap sh*t room 13:51, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
The answer is—apparently—23,061 . —SerialNumber54129 paranoia /cheap sh*t room 14:00, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
Wow, can't imagine how large your watchlist page is. I only have 79 Face-smile.svg ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 14:02, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
It's a misleading figure really, and mostly stems from this. When the machine dishes out a template for me, it automatically watchlists the page. IIRC there's a thing under your preferences that allows you to automatically watchlist every page you visit: although I'm not sure that would really be very helpful. —SerialNumber54129 paranoia /cheap sh*t room 14:07, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
@Serial Number 54129: In your twinkle preferences, disable all "add to watchlist" kind of thing in that page should solve the problem. ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 14:11, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
I know.: Add pages I review to my watchlist. That's precisely what I just told you. But it wouldn't help me becasue I don't watchlist every page I view, just ones that are posted on. —SerialNumber54129 paranoia /cheap sh*t room 14:15, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
Ok nice. I have never visited the watchlist tab in my preferences. ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 14:20, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
It's not just nice. It's naughty but nice. —SerialNumber54129 paranoia /cheap sh*t room 14:32, 6 August 2018 (UTC)