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Discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Electronic music#Sub-project EDM

You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Electronic music#Sub-project EDM as a participant of WP:WikiProject Electronic music. - TheMagnificentist 13:43, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

@TheMagnificentist: I'm not a participant of the WikiProject, I'm just listed as having an open RM on an article. Script gone wrong? ;) Anyway, I don't have any strong opinion on that. nyuszika7h (talk) 16:35, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

Dealing with non-main characters in animated series

I'm working on a character list in my sandbox for The Loud House, which may or may not be needed depending on the end result here, and I have a feeling many of the non-main characters are simply not notable and shouldn't be listed—for example, seriously, the pets are guests? Is there a press release somewhere for the note-worthy guest appearances? As you've said, unlike live-action series, with animated series, there is no clear distinction between guest/special guest stars and co-stars and there are just additional voices. It also complicates things when we have Supporting and Recurring sections, and those I'll likely just end up combining into one section under the standard title of Recurring. I also have a feeling the names for the non-main characters aren't per credits. Also inviting MPFitz1968. Amaury (talk | contribs) 02:35, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

Just a poke in case you missed this. Amaury (talk | contribs) 19:09, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
@Amaury: I don't watch/follow that series (at least currently), but yeah, for animated series, we can't just list everyone listed in the end credits. Notable characters mentioned in press releases or characters appearing in multiple episodes can be listed as "Recurring" / included in episode list guest star listings (if any). Here are a couple of press releases, but based on a quick look, I can't see a mention of non-main voice cast. nyuszika7h (talk) 09:36, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
And now I apologize for the delayed reply. :x So the only characters that should be listed are the main ones? That would thereby make a character list article unnecessary. Amaury (talk | contribs) 01:06, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
Well, I don't know in the specific case of the show, but any significant recurring guest cast can be listed using the same rules as live action shows (co-stars most likely won't get enough appearances to satisfy that anyway). nyuszika7h (talk) 08:50, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
I've got 41 recordings of the series right now on my DVR. That's not everything (yet), but should hopefully be enough. Maybe. Why are animated series so complicated? Why can't they be like live-action series in that regard? Amaury (talk | contribs) 14:37, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
I'll try to download the episodes and make a recurring cast list like for School of Rock. That might be faster. nyuszika7h (talk) 09:47, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
I have all the episodes now except for the latest four ("Out of the Picture/Room with a Feud", "The Loudest Mission: Relative Chaos", "Back out There/Spell It Out", and "Potty Mouth/"L" is for Love"), going by the iTunes order. I'll see if I can get the rest. Something I noticed is that there are precise character names listed in the end credits, and credits per segment rather than per episode, so I'm going to count how many segments episodes characters are in here. nyuszika7h (talk) 17:54, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
Update: I have all episodes that have aired so far now, but I'll count per episode rather than segment, as that's simpler, and sufficient for determining recurring status. I'll do the counting tomorrow. Now I'm going to sleep. nyuszika7h (talk) 23:11, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
Good night. Amaury (talk | contribs) 23:14, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

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15:58, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

Logos

So I've uploaded some logos for series as you know and you were kind enough to re-size them if needed. All the logos I've uploaded are:

Ones crossed out you've already looked at. The ones that are not are ones I uploaded after those when you sort of went AWOL. Would you be so kind as to take a look at those when you have the chance and re-size them if needed? Thanks. Amaury (talk | contribs) 17:50, 25 July 2017 (UTC)

@Amaury: These look fine to me, the resolution is low enough. nyuszika7h (talk) 13:21, 28 July 2017 (UTC)
Awesome! Thanks. Amaury (talk | contribs) 14:44, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

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  • Some pages show the error Lua error in mw.wikibase.entity.lua at line 34: The entity data must be a table obtained via mw.wikibase.getEntityObject. This problem happens on pages with a Lua module that uses Wikidata. The developers are working on fixing the problem. You can fix a page by opening it for editing and then saving without changing anything. [6]
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21:45, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

Image request

Nyuszika7H, as you know a lot more about image (use) on Wiki than I do, I thought I'd run this by you.

Right now this image is used in the infobox at The Bold Type. However, I think something like the image at the top of this webpage (which is what Freeform uses in its own promos for the show – see also this) would be a lot better choice to use as the image. Any chance you can work your magic, and get that article a better image? Thanks in advance for any help you can provide here!... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 15:20, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

@IJBall:  Done – Thankfully the actual image didn't have the "binge the first 5 episodes" text, so my job was fairly easy. nyuszika7h (talk) 17:02, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

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  • You can get an email when a page on your watchlist was edited. You can choose not to get emails for minor edits. There is a bug that means that you then don't get an email when someone does a normal edit after a minor edit. The developers are working on fixing this. Until it has been fixed you can activate "Email me also for minor edits of pages and files" at the bottom of "User profile" in your preferences if you want to. [11]
  • The thanks button sometimes didn't work for mobile users. This was because of a new bug and has now been fixed. [12]

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  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 8 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 9 August. It will be on all wikis from 10 August (calendar).

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  • Editors and readers who still use Internet Explorer 8 on Windows XP will not be able to use Wikipedia. Internet Explorer 8 on Windows XP can't connect securely to the wikis. When we allow them to do so it means that we get less security for everyone else. If you use Internet Explorer 8 on Windows XP you can install Firefox 52 ESR instead. Around 0.1% of the traffic to the Wikimedia wikis comes from Internet Explorer 8 on Windows XP. [13]
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  • Wiki pages printed by the web browser "Print" function will have an updated style. This new style will be similar to the when you download a page as PDF. It will be better at showing tables, infoboxes and headings. [16][17]

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21:45, 7 August 2017 (UTC)

Re: Forever in Your Mind

I think I noticed this news last month, and then forgot about it, but as one of the main editors at Forever in Your Mind I thought you should be made aware of this. Pinging Amaury for the same reason... I dunno if this news needs to be added to the article, but I suspect it should probably be squeezed in there somehow. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 07:05, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

@IJBall: Yeah, if Emery Kelly is not notable enough for his own article, it's probably worth mentioning that in the "Television" section of FIYM's article. nyuszika7h (talk) 09:41, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

The Loud House

When you end up getting around to seeing which non-main characters are actually relevant, are you planning on editing the actual article or my sandbox version where everything's been cleaned up? Also, the end result will tell us whether a character list is needed or not. Currently, as it stands, my sandbox version of the character list is at 13,589 characters, not including the navigation I have at the top for the parent article and episode list. That's certainly justifiable for a split since the character lists for The Thundermans and Henry Danger are at 8,798 and 8,176 characters, respectively. Although I do have a feeling a lot of the non-main characters listed right now will be removed. Amaury (talk | contribs) 18:42, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

Yours sounds better, I guess. I'll finish that soon, I actually started a spreadsheet but then kinda forgot about it. nyuszika7h (talk) 09:18, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
Thanks, Nyu! Take your time. Thanks again. Amaury (talk | contribs) 16:35, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

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  • Bureaucrats can now set users as confirmed. Previously only stewards could do this on most wikis. Nothing will change for wikis that have previously decided to let administrators set users as confirmed. [18]

Problems

  • The symbols in the language list that show that an article is good or featured in that language doesn't work. Links to the Commons category in the sidebar doesn't work either. The developers are working on fixing it. [19][20]

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23:29, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

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  • You can now test the new Timeless skin on the test wiki and mediawiki.org. You can turn it on in your preferences. You can report bugs in Phabricator. It will come to more wikis soon. [21][22]
  • Your watchlist can now have the option to unwatch pages. You have to turn this on in your preferences. [23]
  • If a table has several columns you can often choose which column you want to use to sort the table. This has not worked for some columns for readers who have used Firefox or Safari. This has now been fixed. [24]
  • The RelatedArticles extension has shown related pages on Wikivoyages. You will now see the related pages at the end of the article together with an image. Previously the links were in the sidebar. Wikis that want this extension can request it on Phabricator.

Changes later this week

  • Videos will now be played in the WebM format in all browsers. Previously some browsers used Ogg Theora (.ogv). If you use Safari, Internet Explorer or Edge you may see slower playback speed at high resolutions. Instead we will get better quality and smaller file size. You can still upload video as Ogg files. They are automatically converted to WebM. This doesn't affect Ogg audio files. [25]
  • The default font in the edit window will change for some users this week. Instead of using the browser default, it will be monospace. Users can change this in their preferences. This should only change this for some users on Macs and iOS devices. [26]
  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 22 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 23 August. It will be on all wikis from 24 August (calendar).

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18:01, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

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  • Syntax highlighting is now a beta feature on Wikimedia wikis with text written from left to right. It will come to right-to-left wikis later. This beta feature is based on CodeMirror. [27][28]
  • You will now get a notification when someone tries to log in to your account and fails. If they try from a device or IP address that have logged in to your account before you will be notified after five failed attempts. You can turn this off or choose to get an email notification in your preferences. You can also turn on to get an email when someone logs in to your account from a new device or IP address. [29]

Problems

  • Some pages show the error Lua error in mw.wikibase.entity.lua at line 34: The entity data must be a table obtained via mw.wikibase.getEntityObject. This problem happens on pages with a Lua module that use Wikidata. This has now been fixed and no new pages will get this problem. You still need to fix pages that were broken before and still show the error message. You can see how on this page. [30]

Changes later this week

  • You can block users from sending you notifications. [31]
  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 29 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 30 August. It will be on all wikis from 31 August (calendar).

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  • In the future you will have global preferences. This means you could set something in your preferences to work in the same way on all wikis. You will not be forced to use global preferences. The developers are now asking if editors need exceptions. This is where you want to use global settings on almost all wikis, but have some wikis where you want it to work in a different way. If you want this you need to tell the developers now. You can do so on the talk page. [32]
  • New filters for edit review is a beta feature to improve recent changes pages. It will work on watchlists from 5 September. [33]
  • The jQuery library will be upgraded to version 3 in September 2017. Wikis can ask on Phabricator to get it early, so they can help find and solve problems now.

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22:10, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

Maggie & Bianca: Fashion Friends

This is one of those tricky ones – while Netflix does include the colon, the onscreen title card for the series does not. That's why I didn't move that one myself. Bottom line: It's debatable, and is probably fine either way... (P.S. I've been watching this one on Netflix, after manually changing the language dub to the native Italian (I have to do this for every new episode I watch!) – the English dub I find to be awful, but it's quite fun in the native Italian! ). --IJBall (contribs • talk) 22:38, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

@IJBall: Well, RaiPlay also lists it without the colon. And yeah, changing audio/subtitle preferences on Netflix can be annoying, but in my experience they stick after a few episodes. nyuszika7h (talk) 21:34, 4 September 2017 (UTC)

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  • The RevisionSlider user interface has changed. You can now select revisions by clicking on the bars. You can move the blue knob past the yellow one and the yellow one will move along, and the other way around. [34][35]

Problems

  • Some users have problems loading very large watchlists. It is working better than earlier but the problem has not been solved. The developers are working on fixing it. Until it has been fixed you can turn on "Expand watchlist to show all changes, not just the most recent" in your preferences and see if it helps. [36]

Changes later this week

  • New filters for edit review is a beta feature to improve recent changes pages. It will work on watchlists from 5 September. [37]
  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 5 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 6 September. It will be on all wikis from 7 September (calendar).

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22:15, 4 September 2017 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:The Standoff

Hello, Nyuszika7H. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "The Standoff".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply edit the submission and remove the {{db-afc}}, {{db-draft}}, or {{db-g13}} code.

If your submission has already been deleted by the time you get there, and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion by following the instructions at this link. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Legacypac (talk) 11:23, 10 September 2017 (UTC)

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  • You can get a notification when a page you created is connected to a Wikidata item. You can choose to get these notifications in your preferences. Some wikis already had this option. It is now available on all wikis. [39]
  • The Newsletter extension is now on mediawiki.org. The newsletter extension is for newsletters where you can subscribe by getting a notification when a new issue has been published. It will come to more wikis later. [40]
  • The Linter extension helps you find technical errors in articles. There is now a new high-priority category: tidy-whitespace-bug. This usually affects templates with horizontal lists. You can read more about using Linter and the Tidy whitespace bug. [41]

Problems

Changes later this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 12 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 13 September. It will be on all wikis from 14 September (calendar).
  • OOjs UI will be updated. This could affect some icons. You can read more about the changes.

Meetings

  • You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 13 September at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
  • You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 12 September at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

  • You can't use OCG to create PDFs after 1 October. This is because of technical problems. You can use Electron instead. Most PDFs are already created with Electron. Electron will get missing features before 1 October. You can create books but they will not have all planned features until November or December. You can read more on mediawiki.org.
  • New filters for edit review are available now on recent changes as a beta feature. Some of those filters and other features will be deployed as default features in the coming weeks. Users will be able to opt out in their preferences. [43]

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19:16, 11 September 2017 (UTC)

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  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 19 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 20 September. It will be on all wikis from 21 September (calendar).

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15:32, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-39

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  • You now get a notification when someone tries to log in to your account and fails. If they try from a device or IP address that have logged in to your account before you will be notified after five failed attempts. For security reasons you will soon get an email by default when someone tries to log in to your account and when someone logs in to your account from a new device or IP address. This can be turned off in your preferences. [50]
  • Users with extremely old browsers (for example Netscape 2–4, released from 1995–1997) which do not support Unicode will no longer be able to edit. They should try to install a new browser. [51]
  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 26 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 27 September. It will be on all wikis from 28 September. (calendar).

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Future changes

  • The Wikimedia Foundation Readers department has proposed changing the mobile website. You can read more on mediawiki.org. This would be a big change.
  • You can't use OCG to create PDFs after 1 October. This is because of technical problems. You can still create PDFs. Tech News 2017/37 said the function to create PDFs from books would still work. It is now clear it will not work for the next few months. The developers are working on fixing this. You can read more on mediawiki.org.

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16:00, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-40

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Recent changes

  • You can now use preload features in the visual editor. This means you can create links to create new pages and some text will already be in the edit window when someone clicks on it. [52]

Changes later this week

  • If you have turned on "Automatically enable most beta features" you will now get the 2017 wikitext editor. Before this you had to turn it on manually even though it is a beta feature. [53]
  • Special:Block and Special:Unblock will get the OOUI look. [54]
  • The jQuery library will be upgraded to version 3 on all Wiktionary wikis from 2 October. It will be on all non-Wikipedia wikis from 4 October. It will be on all wikis from 5 October. [55]
  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 3 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 4 October. It will be on all wikis from 5 October (calendar).

Meetings

  • You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 3 October at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
  • You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 4 October at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

  • A new feature called Reading Lists are coming to the Wikipedia mobile apps. First it will be in the Android version. Reading Lists are a private user preference where you can see lists of articles on multiple devices. You can give feedback on this feature. [56]
  • The search function has used fallback languages for language analysis. This means a language could be analysed with the grammar of a completely unrelated language to find related words. This will be removed from most wikis the week starting with 9 October. You can read more and give feedback.

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23:25, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

Beyond and Famous in Love

I'm going to be removing these articles from my list as I'm tired of dealing with the bullshit from the know-it-all editors who intentionally misinterpret guidelines and make them mean something they don't—see the latest edit to Famous in Love, where normally I'd revert, but then I'd be falsely accused of WP:OWN and bad-faith editing again. (Not only that, but as IJBall and myself have pointed out multiple times, they're called guidelines for a reason.) In other words, they're reading too much into what's said there. It's probably for the best, anyway, and it's the only thing that would keep me from taking a break from Wikipedia altogether. (I'm not burned out, per se, but it's extremely frustrating trying to reason with editors who can't admit that they're wrong.) However, I have created sandbox versions of these where we can edit them and be unbothered: Beyond (sandbox version), Famous in Love (sandbox version). For those watching one or both of those articles, if you're interested, Geraldo Perez and IJBall. MPFitz1968, I'll ping you as well because I'm not sure if you're watching these or not. (They're not checked in my main sandbox page, but just in case.) Amaury (talk | contribs) 18:07, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Television info box

Two times now when I've gone to update the episode count using the visual editor, this has happened (unequal spacing): [57] and [58]. If you look at the history, characters were lost instead of it being just zero. Was there a change somewhere? Amaury (talk | contribs) 14:40, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

@Amaury: That's strange, I'm not sure where the spacing is defined if at all. The TemplateData doesn't include any spacing. We should probably ask at WT:TV or WP:VPT. nyuszika7h (talk) 18:33, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

Violetta (telenovela)

Hey, Nyuszika7H! I wanted to let you know that I just finished watching the first season of Violetta, so I think I may try and tackle revising the season 1 plot summary at that article, to try and make it more "encyclopedic". (The current version seems somewhat "amateurish".) As I think you are the only other editor around here who I am aware of having watched this TV series, I thought I'd let you know in case you want keep track of any changes with an eye towards improving them, or in case you have any suggestions for how to improve the season 1 plot summary on your end... Just so you know! --IJBall (contribs • talk) 16:21, 5 November 2017 (UTC)

@IJBall: Great, I hope you enjoyed it and you'll watch the other two seasons as well! :) I know there's a lot of things that need to be improved on its articles, but I've been too lazy to fix everything, I've just done a few fixes. It would be great if you could help, feel free to ask me if you're not sure about something. I have all 240 episodes downloaded (it's around 600 GB) so I can check things anytime. I'll also try to be more active on Wikipedia again. nyuszika7h (talk) 19:39, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
I do plan to get to seasons #2 & #3 (though I'm not sure how much longer Netflix will carry this show...), but in the short-term I've bumped Stranger Things and the final season of Longmire (TV series) up to higher priority, and so will tackle those two first, before getting back to the second season of Violetta. (Sidenote: U.S. Netflix has still not picked up seasons 2 & 3 of Maggie & Bianca: Fashion Friends yet, which I find disappointing...) As for revising the season 1 summary, I will try to get to that this week, though I've got some work stuff that I'll probably need to take care of first. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 20:11, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
@IJBall: Yeah, it's weird how Netflix didn't release even the second season of Maggie & Bianca yet. It premiered on October 14 here. Though I haven't started watching that show yet. nyuszika7h (talk) 20:16, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
And based on what they do with other shows, I'd have expected Netflix to remove Violetta by now (it's already been removed from Netflix Latin America recently), but it looks like they didn't, which is good. nyuszika7h (talk) 20:20, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
Presumably, Netflix Latin America got the show earlier, and so has had it longer, which is why they've now lost it. But I'm assuming I've got Violetta on the U.S. Netflix for on the other of just a few more months, not years... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 21:03, 5 November 2017 (UTC)

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Just wanted to check and see if you've made any progress with The Loud House with regard to determining actual guest stars since animation is complicated, as we know. Amaury (talk | contribs) 18:03, 7 December 2017 (UTC)

Also, The Loud House, like with other animation, doesn't always air segments from the same episode together and instead airs them separately most of the time, with the second segment just being a repeat. As such, we end up with more ratings than episodes, so I wonder if it's possible to hide the "Episodes" column with the television season ratings template like we hide the "Timeslot" column, etc. The ratings table shows 26 episodes for seasons one and two, but we're actually finding the average of 46 and 45 ratings, respectively, instead of 26 and 26 ratings because of, again, how they air the segments. Amaury (talk | contribs) 18:16, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
@Amaury: I totally forgot about that, sorry. I'll do it on the weekend. Also, it's not currently possible to hide the column, but I can easily change the template for that. Or should we add an option to change the title? Like to "No. of ratings" or something. nyuszika7h (talk) 18:24, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
Whatever you think would work best, go for it! And thank you. Amaury (talk | contribs) 18:31, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
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