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Bezuidenhout[edit]

Hi there,

I created Dawid Bezuidenhout and noticed that your surnames are the same. What is the meaning of it? Is it usually associated with Coloured people?--Thomas.macmillan (talk) 21:59, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the info! I recently spent 4 months in South Africa and Namibia and lots of experience with Afrikaans, but never came across the surname.--Thomas.macmillan (talk) 13:56, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
Hey, wees net sekker om 'references' te maak op die "South Africa Under Apartheid" article talk page - dit help. Invmog (talk) 12:45, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for taking a stance concerning the common Anti-Apartheids garbage. --41.151.106.109 (talk) 21:35, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

Question about banned usernames[edit]

Hi, I was trying to edit some articles on the Afrikaans Wikipedia, but I could not register my username because anything containing the word JEW is banned. Do you have any idea why? Thanks a lot. --JewBask (talk) 23:08, 2 November 2008 (UTC)


Hi again; thanks for your prompt response. I thought about the same. Please let me know if you find something out, I am really interested in giving my two cents to the Afrikaans Wikipedia and hence help spread knowledge in the language. Thanks for your help! --JewBask (talk) 22:19, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Done. I'm in :-) --JewBask (talk) 00:17, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Your name[edit]

Hey! Bly jy nou in Suid-Afrika? Ek het nou in Suid-Afrika gewees, en ek het jou name baie kere gesien :) --Eivind (t) 08:14, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Ja, ek het die selfde gebruiker op af.wiki: af:Gebruiker:EivindJ. Well, South Africa is warm, at least :) I'm not very up to date on the political status and stuff, but I reckon and hope everything will solve out down there. I met many Bezuidenhout's in Pretoria ... do you have any family down there? --Eivind (t) 15:36, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

South Africa on English language map[edit]

Hi, would you care to comment on this topic at Wikimedia commons? 67.150.247.57 (talk) 10:19, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

RE: Vandalism on Goiás[edit]

I restored the pre-vandalism data. I didn't revert it because I didn't want to lose intermediate edits. If it's something like that, you always have the option to manually correct it. In this case, I looked at the edit history and compared the last edit of the vandal to the prior, non-vandalized version to make sure I identified all data that had been vandalized. Then I literally copied the original data and pasted it over the vandalized data in the current version of the article. ClueBot has a pretty strict criteria to avoid false positives so there are a lot of situations where it will not revert vandalism. It's not always a case of "missing" it. For example, ClueBot won't revert edits by a specific user to a specific article more than once in a given day (I assume to avoid an automated revert war). Keep in mind, those are ClueBot's rules. You are not bound by the same rules (though revert wars are still not allowed, see Wikipedia:3RR). But in the case of vandalism, there is nothing special about fixing repeated vandalism. You may fix it the second time the same way you fixed it the first time. If vandalism persists from a specific user or IP address, warn the user on their user talk page, following the format for warnings outlined in Wikipedia:Template_messages/User_talk_namespace. If they persist after several warnings, and it is obvious that they are vandalizing and that their edits are not in good faith, ask for administrator assistance in Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism. They will be able to temporarily or permanently block a user or IP address from editing after repeated vandalism. DanielDeibler (talk) 01:27, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Email[edit]

Do you have an email? ChrisDHDR 17:26, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Yes, [email removed - be careful of spammers!] :) Bezuidenhout (talk) 18:17, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Check Wikipedia[edit]

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White[edit]

What I meant by "mostly of European descent" is that they could come via America, Australia or other parts of the world (of indirect European descent, sort to say). I didn't mean they were only partly right. But it's good to avoid dubiousness. --Roofbird (talk) 18:22, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Oh sorry, I see what you mean :) Sorry for about that. It is true what you're saying, I guess I was being ignorant.--Bezuidenhout (talk) 18:32, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
I should have written "only party WHite" (ipv right) of course :) doe nie worrie nie, no offense taken :) adios, --Roofbird (talk) 18:54, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Those painful bots ...[edit]

Do you konw about {{nobots}}? However it's probably a bad thing to stop all bots; so I think the only way to stop them is to remove all the wikilinks on other wps. They check other wikipedias and then if there are differences add the "missing" ones. ChrisDHDR 17:39, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Chris!--Bezuidenhout (talk) 18:00, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

User Page[edit]

Thanks for the correction. Although I think the UK maintains occupied some parts of my country, I have no interest in discussing that, or in carrying out a campaign of vindication. (Google Translate) Greetings.Cêsar (talk) 18:41, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

You're welcome.

October 2009 - Disruptive edits on Naboomspruit[edit]

Heya. Your recent edit here appears to have been borne out of frustration with another editor. However, please respect WP:POINT, don't disrupt Wikipedia to illustrate a point. You made that edit on 14 October, and it was still in that (unreadable) state 9 days later. Thank you! --HiltonLange (talk) 00:33, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

"Taking liberties"[edit]

I'm not entirely sure why you consider changing the grammar of an article introduction to be "taking liberties". [1]. See Wikipedia:OWN. Park3r (talk) 16:04, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

It feels like you are gradually aiming to ignore the use of the original name in the article completely. The earlier on the name is, I personally think, the more people assume it's used. First you started out moving the article to it's new name (Pietersburg >> Polokwane etc.) then you moved the or in the middle (Polokwane or Pietersburg >> Polokwane, or by it's former name Pietersburg) and now you plan on moving the entire name right to the end. I admit I am being slightly aggressive and exaggerating, and I ask your pardon for this. Bezuidenhout (talk) 17:50, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
The wording of the intro seemed unwieldy. I have no agenda regarding name changes, and a review of Talk:City of Tshwane Metropolitan Municipality will show this quite clearly. Park3r (talk) 20:23, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for the Tshwane + municipality name change by the way. :) Bezuidenhout (talk) 20:25, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Cresslawn Primary School[edit]

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You may be interested in this...[edit]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Decolonization#Requested_move_2 —Preceding unsigned comment added by MrTranscript (talkcontribs) 23:32, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Commercially viable land and apartheid[edit]

I see that you challenged the fact that nearly all commercially viable land was transferred to White ownership in Namibia during apartheid. Do you really question this or are you just being difficult?--TM 10:43, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

I am questioning it, because I doubt that all agricultural land was simply 'taken' away from them. If they were then how the hell did black people survive without the food? Bezuidenhout (talk) 12:55, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

For example http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=44666 states that only 52% of land was in white hands in 1990. Bezuidenhout (talk) 12:59, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

The operative words are "nearly all" and "commercially viable". Looking at land reform in Namibia, an academic essay by Chris Tapscott, says "74% of the potentially arable land was owned by less than 4,100 people, mainly white, commercial farmers who comprised less than 0.2% of the total population." I'd say that 74% qualifies as nearly.--TM 13:34, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
But these figures could represent new farmland created to the help of irrigation and dams. Let's face it, before europeans came along there was little technology, it's not as if the white people 'took over' their dams and farmland. Bezuidenhout (talk) 13:42, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
And I disagree that 74% is 'nearly all'. Are you saying nearly all of the USA is white? After all 74 or somewhat is white? Bezuidenhout (talk) 13:44, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
I will leave aside your comments on "new farmland". We can say it more directly: "0.2% of the populations, almost all of whom were White, controlled 74% of the commercially viable land for agriculture."--TM 13:49, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
Get your facts straigt, TM. This land became commercially viable AFTER this section of the population put it to economic use. SWA/Namibia is a low rainfall country with more rain in the NORTH EAST of the country, which is mainly owned by Blacks. --41.151.106.109 (talk) 21:38, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

2009 election[edit]

For drawing the maps I use spreadsheets downloaded from the IEC's Downloadable Party Results; there are also a whole lot of other election result reports linked from the IEC website. - htonl (talk) 11:32, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Undone comment[edit]

An administrator closed the discussion on Cote d'Ivoire - another admin archived it. Adding comments post-archiving is not permitted, and I have merely reverted your commentary via WP:AGF (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 14:33, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

African geography contributions[edit]

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I'm always surprised at the varied places that I see your name crop up as a contributer. And it's always contributing details, map locations, info-boxes etc. Your efforts go a long way to making wikipedia more detailed and valuable. I may not always see eye-to-eye with you on socio-political issues, but I can't deny your tireless contributions to Wikipedia - keep it up! HiltonLange (talk) 21:57, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

2009 election info[edit]

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Did you ever have any luck with the 2009 election stats you asked about? If you like I can calculate a summary of the results by municipality and send you a spreadsheet of that. - htonl (talk) 22:24, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Dankie vir die userboxes[edit]

I liked the userboxes you use so much that I put a number of them on my own userpage.

I also wanted to let you know that there's a slight slip in the top of your userpage where you said, "my edits not include" instead of "my edits now include"

Have a nice day! (^:

Invmog (talk) 21:57, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Ag, I'm glad they could be of use, and nice to find someone with similar ideas on this site. :) Bezuidenhout (talk) 07:04, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

SA white population by province and language[edit]

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I've drawn the map - you can see it on my talk page. - htonl (talk) 13:00, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Changes to municipalities[edit]

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# of Afrikaan Speakers[edit]

Very interesting contribution at Talk:Afrikaans. I'm not sure how this fits into your idea about a higher # of Afrikaans speakers but I just wanted to share a personal tidbit with you. I left Belgium in 1951, at 4 yrs old, when my parents emigrated to the USA. We continued to speak our dialect of Flemish (SW of Antwerp) and I am relatively fluent in it till this day. We did NOT alter our speaking to each other, or to our relatives in Belgium, because of the Belgian Language shifts of the '60s toward a more Dutch influence (ABN). Our "language" basically stayed in the time envelope of the mid-20th century. The result (as I just recently discovered) is that I can read Afrikaans with very little dificulty whereas Dutch is quite a problem. I would much enjoy a further discussion about this. E-mail?. Buster Seven Talk 17:55, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

TY for your reply, Bezuidenhout. I appreciate your safety concerns about email info and share it. There is a way for you to email me if you choose to. In the left margin at my user or talk page User talk:Buster7 is a section called "Toolbox" and a drop down..."e-mail this user". I understand if you choose not to. Buster Seven Talk 21:50, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

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Translation requests for the template[edit]

The first template (SA town) seems to be working (with a few caveats for now: af:Gebruiker:Underlying lk/sandbox). You can find it on my user page at af:Gebruiker:Underlying lk. The translations need to be checked (they most likely won't be accurate as I just used Google translate) and the map caption (TOWN-NAME shown within PROVINCE) should be translated.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 23:05, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

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Simonstone@White Africans[edit]

As I had promised yesterday, I closed the section; the user is getting trollish without backing the claim and should not be fed. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 17:09, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Welcome to WP:SKY![edit]

Glad to have you on board! Cheers, Raime 05:24, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Re: New Census Info[edit]

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A barnstar for you![edit]

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Thanks for the help in correcting my grammar. Furthermore, I apologies for the long discourse in relation to a mere, silly rebuttal in relation to Afrikaans. I founded that discourse refreshing and constructive.

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afrikaner[edit]

can you explain to me why you think it is better with "Southern african ethnic group" instead of "ethnic group in southern africa" 120.50.35.122 (talk) 16:27, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

see talkpage of afrikaner[edit]

see Talk:Afrikaner#not_simply_.22Africans.22 120.50.35.122 (talk) 21:01, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

Changes to Cape Town data[edit]

Maybe you should look stuff up or at least start a talk instead of randomly reverting changes, how about that? The census data for "Cape Town" is confusing because it has "Cape Town proper" which is the historical division and "Cape Town", which is the current boundary of the city. I fixed it to reflect the whole city instead of some part of the city, which is really only historical at this point.

Cheers, fijal — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fijal (talkcontribs) 14:35, 27 January 2015 (UTC)


Ok, this is confusing, but... The entire article talks more about City of Cape Town Municipality than Cape Town as described in census, it is very confusing (can you find some reference as what exactly is the administrative division? I don't think "Cape Town" as described in the article even exists). Especially stuff like "list of suburbs" contains tons of suburbs that are NOT part of what the article describes — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fijal (talkcontribs) 14:44, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

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Afrikaner[edit]

Howzit Ben,

You remember that discussion we had in May of 2014 about how Afrikaans people ought to be described first and foremost as a "Southern African ethnic group" as opposed to a Germanic/European "ethnic group in Africa"? Well it's come up... again. I would very much appreciate your comments on Talk:Afrikaners as and when you can spare the time.

Thanks, hope you're well ~

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