User talk:Chris388

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January 2016

Your recent editing history at Pierre Trudeau shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. Citobun (talk) 18:48, 23 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Trudeau

Hi! You might want to take a look at some of those links above from the welcome message. As well, your recent edits seem to be going against consensus, so you should take them to the talk page of the article. There are quite a few policies and guidelines around here, so it takes time to learn. Thanks. Dbrodbeck (talk) 18:49, 23 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Notice of Edit warring noticeboard discussion

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. The thread is Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring#User:Chris388 reported by User:Dbrodbeck (Result: ). Thank you. Dbrodbeck (talk) 19:26, 23 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: sandbox (January 23)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Robert McClenon was:

Articles for Creation isn't the way to ask about reverts of edits. Since this is a question and not a draft article, I have to decline it. The place to discuss reverted edits is the article talk page, Talk: Pierre Trudeau. The basic problem that I see with your edit is that it isn't neutral. Read the dispute resolution policy and discuss on the talk page. If talk page discussion fails, follow one of the dispute resolution procedures.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to User:Chris388/sandbox and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
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Robert McClenon (talk) 19:36, 23 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! Chris388, I noticed your article was declined at Articles for Creation, and that can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Robert McClenon (talk) 19:36, 23 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Pierre Trudeau

Wikipedia must maintain a neutral point of view, and is not a venue for the publication of personal opinion commentary. The sources you're trying to add are simple statistical lists, and do not support the inferences you're trying to draw from them — none of them explicitly states outright that Trudeau bore any responsibility for the situation, so we can't make that assertion ourselves either.

In addition, you need to be aware of Wikipedia's WP:3RR rule — you can actually be blocked from editing Wikipedia, if you revert the same content back into the article three times or more in 24 hours. You've actually already passed that limit, though since you haven't already been warned about it I'm not going to block you yet — but you will receive at least a temporary editblock if you reinsert the content back into the article again without establishing a consensus for it. You may raise the matter for discussion at Talk:Pierre Trudeau, but do not insert it back into the article arbitrarily. Bearcat (talk) 19:38, 23 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

There actually is an edit warring warning up there: [1]. Dbrodbeck (talk) 19:40, 23 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

A Suggestion

You seem to be being very determined to add an unreferenced criticism of Pierre Trudeau, and have tried various methods of pushing your agenda, such as edit-warring and making mistaken use of AFC. My advice is, first, stop editing the article, at least, until you have a chance to learn what Wikipedia does and does not consider to be proper editing behavior. Second, discuss on the talk page, something that you haven't done. Third, read the dispute resolution policy. Fourth, ask for advice at the Teahouse. I know that much of that advice will be the advice I have already given you. Robert McClenon (talk) 19:45, 23 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

A great place to review before editing would be WP:Contributing to Wikipedia#Article development and content protocols -- Moxy (talk) 20:23, 23 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I acknowledge that the major problem of my previous edits was indeed lack of neutrality and hope the revised wording is acceptable to Wikipedia.

Best

Perhaps best that edits are proposed on the talk page first before a block is issued. No harm with proposing content ....We welcome proposals and many of us enjoy debating there merits...we will guide you as in whats best and where is best. -- Moxy (talk) 20:51, 23 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Edit warring at Pierre Trudeau

A complaint about your edits was filed at the 3RR noticeboard (permalink). The complaint has been closed, with a warning against adding your own personal point of view to articles. At this time, I am not issuing a block because it seems you have agreed to stop. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 23:50, 26 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]