User talk:ChrisTheDude/Archive 6

Thornbury Town FC

Lol ill be dead by the time that happens

Thornbury Town FC

Oh right so if Thornbury got to tier 10 and went back down their article could stay.

Thornbury Town FC

To some extent Yes but if you delete the article then delete the others aswell. Cheers.

Thornbury Town FC

Fair enough so how come teams from the same lague as thornbury have articles And also. Cup eligibility Being members of a league at a particular level also affects eligibility for Cup, or single-elimination, competitions.

FA Cup: All levels (in theory; in practice restricted to Levels 1-11) Football League Cup: Levels 1-4 Football League Trophy: Levels 3-4 FA Trophy: Levels 5-8 Conference League Cup: Levels 5-6 FA Vase: Levels 9-11 FA National League System Cup: Level 11 (contested by representative teams from each league) Beyond Level 11 the pyramid becomes regional and the cups become accordingly regional. Further down the pyramid is split on a county basis, counties having their own cups accordingly

Thornbury Town FC

Ok so what your saying any team below level 10 are too bad to make an articale on lol. Why level 10 is there a big step up from 11 to 10 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Leeds5359 (talk • contribs) 09:50, 8 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thornbury Town FC

Why are you wanting to delete this article just want to know, they do exist clubs below thornbury have articles.

Crabble Stadium

Hi. The "Crabble Athletic Ground" is in The history of non-league football grounds by K Miller, page 98. things to add :

The new grandstand was officially opened on August 25th 1951.
In 1952, the Supporters' Association finance (around 3000£) to cover terracing on the bank.
The Chelsea team included Alan Harris and Terry Venables. (floodflight first game)

Everything else (and more) is in the WP article. Yours in sports! (excuse my very bad English) Clio64B (talk) 20:44, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Image:Bluescirca1911.jpg

Hi. Thanks for adding this image to BCFC, gives me a good reason to remove this season's third kit which is completely boring. I've added it to Alec McClure, seeing as it's him wearing the shirt. Was wondering where you got 'circa 1911' from, though. According to Historical Kits we adopted that shirt c.1913, according to Tony Matthews Encyclopedia of BCFC it was 1914-15, and Keeping Right On the official history, which isn't all that reliable, carries the same picture captioned "... dated back to 1919/20 and is worn here by Alex McClure who led the club to the Second Division championship that season" (which he didn't, because it was the following season). cheers, Struway2 (talk) 10:02, 21 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hmmm. The shirt may well have been adopted that early, but McClure didn't join till 1912 (which I suppose is circa 1911). I'm sure the image is still PD-US though, whenever it was actually taken. McClure left in 1923 by which time he was 31, and the bloke in the picture doesn't look 31 to me. Would that be a sound argument to use at an Image for Deletion, do you suppose? cheers, Struway2 (talk) 10:24, 21 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Adam Miller

Hey Chris, my usual source indicates he was only an Academy player. Google "pride of anglia "Adam Miller" " and take the top hit, that's all I have right now on him. Hope that helps. The Rambling Man (talk) 08:59, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Dude, I can confirm Mr Miller was a Grays player. See [1] and [2] - Jimbo^[online] 11:49, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Another good source [3] Jimbo^[online] 11:52, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Penalties

You asked for a citation about the new idea for penalties kicks. I have worked within the Swedish football federation and we talked about this to Mr Balter last fall. It has been reported, however my Google searches today have turned up nothing. I will speak to our contact at UEFA about this next week. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.217.73.154 (talk) 19:07, 25 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hess/Bates quote

Page 81. The full quote from the programme notes reads: "What a pleasure it was to entertain Gillingham. Of course it was heightened by the result, but they were worthy competitors. Five goals down, two minutes to go and they still played as if their life depended on it and with style. Good attacking football played in good spirit from both sets of supporters and both teams. Special mention must be made of Andy Hessenthaler, who never stopped running for them. A fair-haired kid and clearly a product of the Gillingham youth policy, I was going to sign him until further enquries revealed that he was 35 years old!" AMBerry (talk | contribs) 09:49, 27 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

great work again: I can scarcely recognise my initial article in there. Kevin McE (talk) 18:26, 30 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Of course I don't mind (as if it would make a difference if I did :@) ): I'm fully used to the idea that editors don't own pages that they have worked on, and the little guy deserves to have a GA to his name. Kevin McE (talk) 07:13, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Alf Bentley

Hi there ChrisTheDude. Just to let you know that I have just created Alf Bentley, which has turned one of your redlinks to blue in List of Gillingham F.C. players with less than 50 appearances. However it is very obvious that they are two different footballers, so disambiguation will be required. If and when you create an article for "your" Alf Bentley, give us a shout and I'll help out with the necessary. All the best. --Jameboy (talk) 15:15, 27 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I've also created Alfred Bentley as a disambiguation page. --Jameboy (talk) 15:27, 27 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent. I've now moved "my" Alf Bentley to Alf Bentley (footballer born 1887). Although he's probably more notable (having played most of his career in the top flight), I don't really see him as being the "primary topic" as such, given that a) he played a very long time ago b) there seems to be very little information on him, and c) I'm pretty sure the vast majority of Baggies fans wouldn't have heard of him anyway. --Jameboy (talk) 22:00, 29 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Newspaper References

Hey Chris, I have a reference in a newspaper I'd like to add to an article, but I can't find the article on the paper's website. Do you know if there is a template for referencing newspaper articles? Thanks for your help --Jimbo^[online] 17:39, 27 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Hey

Just a quick note to say thanks for your message, I really appreciated it. Looks like discussions at WT:FOOTY are worse than when I took my break, a lot of bad karma going on. I'll avoid that place for a while, but I'll be around elsewhere. Thanks again, all the best, The Rambling Man (talk) 13:46, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well if we do break away we need to establish that (a) there are no periods in A.F.C. and (b) AFC doesn't actually stand for anything anyway. Lead the revolution, I'm right behind you! The Rambling Man (talk) 14:28, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

FWA POTY etc

Hey Chris, I found a Press Association citation and rejigged the lead but it reads like plop now so sorry about that, I guess you could improve it....! The Rambling Man (talk) 07:28, 2 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Coulsdon United F.C./English football clubs stubs

Hey Chris, do we need toa dd more to this Coulsdon United F.C. article or what do I need to make it look like it doesn't need a stub status?? Also, I noticed that the number of English football club stubs is down from 800 to 532 now! I can't wait to see that all of the stubs is gone!!! Rakuten06 (talk) 22:50, 2 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Gills

I know it was inevitable really, but my commiserations... The Rambling Man (talk) 15:54, 3 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

From me too. It wouldn't have happened if you hadn't let Steve Banks leave all those years ago. </hyperbole> - Dudesleeper / Talk 00:39, 4 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Andysteve

Bless him, I'm sure he'll resume his fabulous updates at the start of the season with all the transfer goings-on.

Could you do me a favour and add to this AfD article about a couple of two-bob footballers.

Good luck next season - hopefully Scally keeps faith with Stimmo. --Jimbo^[online] 19:57, 3 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Andy Hessenthaler

Hello, I have reviewed this article and placed it on hold. The issues I have brought up in the review are fairly minor, as the article is very close to being ready for GA status. I have placed the article on my watchlist, so I will check back when the concerns have been addressed. GaryColemanFan (talk) 00:31, 4 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It would appear that what I predicted on 29th May last year has now happened: the version of the Hess article that Dover lifted for their site almost without editing as the biography of their new manager is being cited as evidence of the same claims here. I suppose the fact that they have made some changes means that they can be said to be verifying that which they did not change. It does make me wonder what I might have got away with claiming though. Kevin McE (talk) 01:08, 4 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

New Project

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Huddersfield and District Association Football League

Hey Chris, I've done some revisions to the page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huddersfield_and_District_Association_Football_League) and thought you'd appreciate the update. Calebrw (talk) 01:04, 7 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WP:LOTM

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Blues

Thanks. It has indeed been coming, the club's a mess from top to bottom. Never mind, it's only a game :-( cheers, Struway2 (talk) 08:23, 12 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nailsworth

The second biggest team in Nailsworth is... Shortwood United F.C. :-) — Gasheadsteve ^{Talk to me} 08:36, 12 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Confusing clubs

If we're having trouble with club identity in Scotland, we might struggle further east. At one point there were three Torpedo Moscows playing in the Russian league system, the "original" Torpedo, Torpedo-ZIL (who are now FC Moscow) and Torpedo-RG, who were called Torpedo-ZIL during a time when the other Torpedo-ZIL called themselves Torpedo-Metallurg. And then there's the two Prague clubs who call themselves Bohemians... Oldelpaso (talk) 12:52, 12 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Hols

Have a good one. I'm off myself for a couple of weeks so see you in June! The Rambling Man (talk) 07:27, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Bruce's literary works on the radio

Having heard the broadcasts in question, I think "an affectionate but not entirely serious tribute" could be more accurately phrased as "a merciless p*ss-take", but I suspect that couldn't be reliably sourced either ;-) cheers, Struway2 (talk) 14:38, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Dover/Bostock

You seem to have your ear to the Dover ground. There is a lot of nonsense going on with some unregistered editors and the John Bostock article. Have Dover signed/loaned this guy at all, or is that, like other large parts of the article, fabrication? I think I sense the hands of the mates of a 16 year old winding him up. Kevin McE (talk) 19:04, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds like he would be good for Dover to get their hands on him though... Kevin McE (talk) 17:34, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

the referees a wanker

It is obviously not the most charming of phrases, however it is used commonly, but it is proving a little hard to cite. Hmmm what to do? I don't think anyone can dispute that it is used, even in Japan the team Urawa Reds use the chant.

Should it not be included due to minimal citations? Should it be included because it is not disputed? Should it remain and have a "requires citations" tag? or should it not be included just because it is crude?

Sennen goroshi (talk) 15:05, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

So, do you think that just because it was a featured article, I should not add to it, without meeting all the criteria? There are many articles with citations required. I really am not trying to be an arse about it, I wouldn't be saying this if it were a fact that is likely to be disputed - however both of us realise that the chant is used, its hard to cite but it's use is a fact. I didn't see people requiring a citation for it being included in the wanker article, so I don't see why it should be required here.Sennen goroshi (talk) 15:16, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

bastard/wanker its all pretty much the same. I really was in two minds over the article, but it did seem notable and was just annoying me with its lack of available citations. I really don't know if an undisputed statement can be included without citations. But thanks for fixing it.Sennen goroshi (talk) 15:26, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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BRC & privacy concerns

Hey Chris, would you mind dropping in your opinion here? Thanks. GlassCobra 01:20, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Georgi Kinkladze

(apologies for the cut-paste message) I am attempting to get Georgi Kinkladze to FA standard, having failed with a previous nomination. The article is currently at peer review, and I am soliciting the opinions of others who have got football articles to FA. Your feedback would be welcome. Oldelpaso (talk) 16:17, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

BCFC 2007-08

Hi. Don't know why I moved the 06-07 one to the proper capitalisation but not this one. I've reworded the lead. It appears such errors are surprisingly pervasive. Both Arsenal and West Ham use the future tense, Derby and Man City are in both the Football League and the Prem, and Chelsea have spent 15 consecutive seasons in the Barclays Premier League (apart from being 16 seasons, it wasn't even Barclaycard, let alone Barclays, till 2001 :-) Perhaps another time, though, you might consider being kinder towards an editor who clearly doesn't find spelling easy; it may be an "obvious mis-spelling" to you and me, but if it was obvious to the editor they wouldn't have made the mistake. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 19:54, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Gillingham seasons line graph

Would you mind giving me a crash course on how to include the seasons in the relevant graph axis. I'm making two columns in Excel: the first is Year (that is, the year in which a season ended); the second is Finishing position. When I highlight both columns and create the graph, it puts the contents of both columns into the lines on the graph, instead of just the finishing position. As a quick fix, I highlighted only the Finishing position column, which, instead of listing the seasons on the axis, lists 1 to 54 (one for each line in the Excel columns). Here's my current effort. How did you do Gillingham's? - Dudesleeper / Talk 01:11, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, and I haven't based the positions on the other 91 teams (or whatever the relevant total of League members is for each season); just their placing from the top of the League pyramid. - Dudesleeper / Talk 01:15, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think we might have different versions of Excel, but I worked it out from your directions and it worked. Thanks for your help. - Dudesleeper / Talk 18:29, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A Featured List contest

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Talyllyn Railway

Many thanks for the excellent work you've done copy-editing this article. Along with some other editors, I'd tried to get it up to FA standard a couple of months ago, but when it failed at the first FA attempt, it ran out of steam, so to speak. Hopefully this time it will reach the destination ;-) — Tivedshambo _(t/c) 21:07, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, let me second Tivedshambo's comments. You're edits have improved the article considerably. Many thanks, Gwernol 22:31, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've also added my support at the FAC nomination. Oh, and I'm a he :-) Best, Gwernol 10:22, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the smile

Your post (Unfortunately "being cool" is a not a pre-requisite for a WP article, hence why I don't have one) to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jonathan dos Santos really made my day. Thanks! --Fabrictramp | talk to me 18:01, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Midland Combination

The new 2008-09 constitution is only "proposed" at the moment, and subject to confirmation at their AGM on 23rd June. - fchd (talk) 12:52, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Joe Dickenson

Hi Chris, no problem at all. Joe Dickenson is located at page 74 of Football League Players' Records 1888 - 1939, and all the info you told me about him is correct. Thanks, Mattythewhite (talk) 14:27, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

are you an admin?

If so, I didn't expect to see admin use edit summaries like this one.--Rockfang (talk) 18:09, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]