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Hello DieWahrheitBitte and welcome to Wikipedia! I am Ukexpat and I would like to thank you for your contributions.

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ukexpat (talk) 14:45, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

October 2009

Please do not add unsourced or original content, as you did to Pazhassi Raja. Doing so violates Wikipedia's verifiability policy. If you continue to do so, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. -- Tinu Cherian - 12:41, 6 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Tinu Cherian, since I am unable to respond to your message on your message board, I will do it here. Who the heck are you to ban me from posting on Wikipedia, when all you have been able to produce on Pazhassi Raja is propaganda which doesn't have any historical background? Does a film script writer get to invent history by making a film? What historical sources are you quoting except the script of a film? If a real Kottayam Royal Family had existed how come no one in Kerala is aware of it? And such a family doesn't exist except in a film? I'm using REAL historical references. Read up reliable sources of history about Travancore in South Kerala. Read up about kingdoms in North Kerala. Where is there any mention of a Kottayam Royal Family? NOWHERE!

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Some time ago Bollywood made a "historical" movie titled 'Mangal Pandey' starring the famous Aamir Khan. The film is supposedly about a freedom fighter called Bhagat Singh. Aamir Khan admitted that the only bit of history the film makers had at hand was the name, Bhagat Singh, among a list of rebels who had been executed by the British. The film makers had to come up with a story around that name, creating scenarios that might have happened during the freedom struggle. There is a national obsession with some groups (read: Hindutva Nationalists and their sympathizers) to find militant heroes who opposed the British Raj, because in reality it was the non-violent resistance of the Indian National Congress led by Mahatma Gandhi, Nehru etc who won freedom for India.

This movie, Pazhassi Raja, seems to be along those lines of finding militant heroes. The only problem is that his name is not even recorded in the primary sources of history about Kerala. Kerala consisted of three regions by the time British Raj was established. Two princely states - Travancore in the South and Cochin in central Kerala. In the North, recorded history shows only Zamorins of Calicut as the powerful rulers until Muslim rulers from Mysore, Haider Ali and his son Tippu Sultan, starting in 1766 by 1792, had annexed all of North Kerala and parts of central Kerala. At the request of Hindu rulers of the area, (only small feudal lords apart from Zamorins of Calicut, NONE of whom had the name Kottayam Royal Family) sought the help of British to oust Tippu Sultan. Thus in 1795, British ruled North and parts of central Kerala came to be known as Malabar District of Madras Presidency. It consisted of today's districts, Kannur, Kozhicode (Calicut), Wayanad, Mallapuram, and Palakkad (Palghat).

Since no kingdom by the name Kottayam nor a family known as Kottayam Royal Family did not exist in North Kerala, how do the film makers claim the existence of one? It is not recorded in history. Now the propagandists claim that British "suppressed" the information. How come Keralites "suppressed" it too, until a film maker came along sixty years after independence to announce the existence of such a king in an area of Kerala which has no such place as Kottayam?

Online references to Pazhassi Raja:

Pazhassi Raja College, Pulpally, Wayanad, (part of erstwhile Malabar District) Kerala College managed by Syro MALANKARA Catholic Church, first formed in Thiruvalla (Kottayam District of erstwhile Travancore State) in 1932.

http://www.pazhassirajacollege.com/manage.html

What does a college run by the Syro Malankara Church first formed in 1932 ain Kottayam district of erstwhile Travanore have to do with a supposed freedom fighter of Malabar District in North Kerala in the year 1797?

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