User talk:Diff-text
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I understand you declined the diff text entry on the grounds there are no reliable sources.
You are correct that there are no independent websites referencing it, apart from cnet download.com and that only has 1 review on it.
However the software spoken about is free and can be used on any operating system as there is a web interface to it.
Anyway can try out the software and verify it works and detects movements.
The software (perhaps in a small way) works and is in its own way an original contribution to computer science implementations.
The longest common subsequence algorithm is used by all text difference applications. It fails to properly spot text movements.
Diff Text by use of two or three original ideas actually fixes that old flaw.
It is a pity you could not have been more flexible. The software was only released a few weeks ago and so obviously has no references yet.
So basically an original implementation that properly fixes a very old issue is thrown aside. This is not commerical software. The implementation is free to use.
The ideas behind it are original. Surely you can think again about this.
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The longest common subsequence algorithm was developed in the 1970s by various universities.
Later on text difference applications made use of it.
None of them could spot if a line of text was moved up or down in a document.
Later on some did, but their implementations were imperfect and relied on guessing. Sometimes they would work and sometimes not.
The trouble is that when you look for a movement there might be 2 or 3 or even 10 possible matches. Then there is the added problem that what size of move do you consider.
So you have yet another big problem that is difficult to solve.
How do you pick the size of move and which possible place (there could be many) for the best fit?
The answer taken in Microsoft Word is to only work SOME OF THE TIME.
Even in WinDiff they use heuretics i.e. clever guessing.
WinDiff doesn't spot reordering within a paragraph (unlike diff text), because it is for lines of computer source code only.
Diff Text uniquely spots reordering within a paragraph.
No other piece of software in the world does this yet.
Can you reconsider?
This is a really original addition to computer science algorithms. Yet the original ideas are not mentioned, but the implementation is free to use. It may be a small addition but it is original and there is nothing else quite like it out there yet.
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Paulthomas2 (talk) 16:39, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
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I changed the reference supporting the work to an article in the tech section of HVG Weekly. The reference is http://hvg.hu/Tudomany/20121102_Igy_hasonlithat_ossze_ket_szoveget_a_lege
The engine part of "diff text" is also used in the product Selection Diff Tool. I added that to the external links.
I draw your attention to the Wikipedia article on WinMerge. WinMerge is only supported by one reference on bitbucket. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WinMerge So if WinMerge can be supported an entry on bitbucket that really provides no support for anything the article says at all, then surely my article should be accepted as it is supported by an article in a newspaper that was written by a human.
This might not fit your criteria, but Diff Text is an original contribution to computer science. The software has a web-interface and anybody can easily try it out. It detects moved text in a proper manner i.e. it does not just find a match to moved text - IT FINDS THE BEST PLACE FOR IT. If there are 100 different places a sentence could have been moved to, it will find the best one.
Others either do not do this or guess or will only work properly if there is only one possible place. Diff-text (talk) 22:29, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
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The code does have an entry on office.microsoft.com and this is the other reference as well. The URL is http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/store/selection-diff-tool-WA103863850.aspx?
Surely this must lend some weight to things. Obviously Microsoft must have some selection criteria before allowing something in their Office Store?
The software referenced by my article isn't some big, wonderful new thing that will change the world.
I had a small original idea to make an old algorithm better. In fact I had a succession of 3 small ideas. The first one was to make the longest common subsequence algorithm run in m log n time instead of quadratic.
Then I realized how to detect moved text in proper even-handed, systematic way that always gets it right and doesn't guess. It always picks the best place that will result in the minimum number of edits.
Yes, there are a lot of text diff utilities out there. Some of them have way more functionality than this small offering. But this one detects moved text in an even-handed manner and nobody else does.
Then I figured out how to detect sentence re-ordering in a paragraph.
This is a nice, small addition and (novel) to what is out there. It is a small article and it is supported by an entry on microsoft.com as well. Diff-text (talk) 11:09, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
Your submission at Articles for creation
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Thanks for looking at this the first time. But diff text has listings now on download.com, office.microsoft.com, bitbucket and HVG Weekly.
Obviously to get a listing in the Microsoft Office Store must mean the software must do as it says it does and office.microsoft.com has a firm criteria before accepting listings.
I think MergeDiff, already on Wikipedia, has about the same quality of references as this one.
Can you approve this now?
If you don't I will wait a few weeks and find more websites referencing diff-text.com
Thanks
Your submission at Articles for creation
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December 2012
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Thanks for taking the time to look at the DiffEngineX article. I've now found 4 academic references to DiffEngineX and have added them http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=%22DiffEngineX%22 Diff-text (talk) 22:22, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
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