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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- When you added or edited a template with the visual editor the input boxes were very big. This has been fixed. The input boxes will now be smaller until you click on them. Then they will change size to fit the text. [1]
Problems
- Some diffs showed lines in the wrong order. This was fixed last week. [2]
- Marking a cross-wiki notification as read didn't work every time. The other wiki was not updated. This has now been fixed. [3]
<maplink>
did not work for a few days. This was because of a bug. This has now been fixed. [4]{{subst:REVISIONUSER}}
is used by some templates. For a period edits saved with{{subst:REVISIONUSER}}
would save the previous user's name and not your username. This is now fixed. Edits made before the bug was fixed will still be wrong and need to be corrected. [5]- When you move a page the title still shows the old page name. The developers are working on fixing this. [6]
Changes later this week
- Because of a data centre test you will be able to read but not edit the wikis for up to an hour on 12 September and 10 October. This will start at 14:00 (UTC). You might lose edits if you try to save during this time. The time when you can't edit might be shorter than an hour. You can read more about this.
- Because of the data centre test there will be no new version of MediaWiki this week. Changes for this week will come next week instead.
Meetings
You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 11 Septmber at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 12 September at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- The developers work on making the wikis work better on mobile phones. There is a list of common problems when making content easier to read in the mobile view. You can add things to the page and ask others to help.
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22:35, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
Wikidata weekly summary #330
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- Events
- Continuing through September and early October: Andy Mabbett is touring Australia for a series of open-science and GLAM Wiki-focused talks, workshops, and meetups.
- New events added for the sixth birthday of Wikidata: Berlin, Oslo, Tehran, Beijing
- Press, articles, blog posts
- An increasing number of reports from This Month in GLAM Wikidata related stories. To follow, subscribe here. Though most country reports include Wikidata activities, highlights from this month include:
- Brazilian Wikimedians develop tools for mass contributions: Mbabel and Import-500px
- A report about the Wikidata workshop held at the International Federation of Library Associations Conference in Kuala Lampur
- A report discussing increasing interest for mapping the Portugeuse National Library data with Wikidata
- More information on the recently funded WMSE Projects
- And, of course, the Wikidata Report highlights
- Crotos: a project on visual artworks powered by Wikidata and Wikimedia Commons
- Wikidata Query Service recipe: qualifiers and the Greek alphabet
- An increasing number of reports from This Month in GLAM Wikidata related stories. To follow, subscribe here. Though most country reports include Wikidata activities, highlights from this month include:
- Other Noteworthy Stuff
- Linking knowledge organization systems via Wikidata Presentation at DCMI conference in Porto, by Jneubert
- Senses for lexicographical data will be deployed on October 18th
- The final release of OpenRefine 3.0 is out.
- Collection Explorer, a Wikidata-driven tool bringing together collection data from the Ashmolean Museum, the Bodleian Library, and the Pitt Rivers Museum.
- Did you know?
- Newest properties:
- General datatypes: state of conservation, state of use, admission rate, is retracted by, ISO 15919 transliteration, majority opinion by, seed, demonstrates form, usage example, political coalition, Status in the Red List of Threatened Species in the Czech Republic, item inherits value from
- External identifiers: BGCI garden ID, International Mathematical Olympiad participant ID, Film Indonesia ID, ArhivX LOD, Belvedere object ID, National Trust for Historic Preservation ID, Television Academy Foundation show ID, Playbill production ID, LHW hotel ID, World Travel Awards ID, Relais & Châteaux ID, Nintendo GameID, Académie de Marseille member ID, NPR podcast ID, iTunes podcast ID, Gynopedia place ID, Vocabolario Treccani ID, AnimeClick anime ID, AnimeClick novel ID, AnimeClick character ID, AnimeClick person ID, AnimeClick manga ID, Ex-USSR internal airport code
- New property proposals to review:
- General datatypes: Cook Partisan Voting Index, ONS Community codes, Implies (necessary condition), Index herbariorum code, limiting oxygen index, Model item for, Model item, Taxonomic Literature 2 number, Place of devotion, Stadtteilnummer, restriction of, blazon, ENI number, parties, term of venery, root, unicode range, Ġabra lexeme ID, Ultimate Guitar artist ID, inflection class
- External identifiers: ResearchGate publication ID, Indonesian Basic Data of Primary and Secondary Education ID, AnimeClick drama ID, MobyGames platform ID, Adelphi author ID, UOL Eleições ID, Tourisme et Handicap ID, Qualité Tourisme ID, Catalogue of the Lepidoptera of Belgium ID, Northern Ireland Assembly ID, SJPXVII ID, Microsoft Store app ID, CharacTour character ID, re3data repository ID, IGN film ID, Arkivportalen aktor ID, Arkivportalen arkiv ID, Muziekweb performer ID, SPXVI ID, Spectral Database for Organic Compounds ID, LakeNet ID, Álgu ID, Uralonet ID, Geheugen van de VU person ID, Comic Vine ID, Shazam track ID, IANA Root Zone Database ID, ASCE ID, Dxomark ID, PlayStation Store ID, Oqaasileriffik online dictionary ID
- Query examples:
- Newest properties:
- Development
- Fix a problem with the language of the lemma (phab:T194347)
- Improving the diffs for Lexemes (phab:T185481)
- Exclude es-formal and hu-formal from monolingual text codes (phab:T203311, thanks to MarcoAurelio)
- Implement the contemporary constraint (phab:T141859, thanks to Abiàn)
You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.
- Monthly Tasks
- Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
- Comment on property proposals: all open proposals
- Suggested and open tasks!
- Contribute to a Showcase item.
- Help translate or proofread the interface and documentation pages, in your own language!
- Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
- Help write the next summary!
A barnstar for you!
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The Writer's Barnstar |
Hi Donald Trung, many thanks for your Asian numismatics articles such as Wu Zhu, Kucha coinage, Ryukyuan mon, and many others. Your hard work is greatly appreciated! Zanhe (talk) 05:36, 10 September 2018 (UTC) |
@Zanhe: Thank you, I'm very happy that you enjoy reading them and hope that you found them to be very informative. Plus you deserve this barnstar a lot more than I do, keep up the great work from your end.
I really enjoy reading your DYK's. --Donald Trung (talk) 07:38, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- The Wikimedia Commons mobile app has a new version. Images uploaded using Nearby are now automatically added to the associated Wikidata item. You can browse other images on Commons. You can see your achievements and your upload statistics. It has also fixed some bugs. [7]
MediaWiki web requests now have a time limit of 60 seconds for GET requests and 200 seconds for POST requests. [8]
Problems
- You could not see the menu on the notifications page on the mobile version. This has now been fixed. [9]
Changes later this week
- Special:AncientPages can hide disambiguation pages. [10]
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 18 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 19 September. It will be on all wikis from 20 September (calendar).
Meetings
You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 19 September at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- The developers are testing new mobile web navigation. You can use it and give feedback.
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21:58, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
A page you started (Zhaona Xinbao) has been reviewed!
Thanks for creating Zhaona Xinbao, Donald Trung!
Wikipedia editor SamHolt6 just reviewed your page, and wrote this note for you:
Reviewed. Well done, but Paragraph 1 of the history heading could use a footnote
To reply, leave a comment on SamHolt6's talk page.
Learn more about page curation.
SamHolt6 (talk) 20:00, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
- @SamHolt6: sure, but what kind of footnote? --Donald Trung (talk) 20:17, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
- Anything to indicate which source the information from the paragraph is from.--SamHolt6 (talk) 20:52, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Changes later this week
- The preferences form will change to use the standard look. If you see any problems please report them on Phabricator. [11]
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 25 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 26 September. It will be on all wikis from 27 September (calendar).
Meetings
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15:22, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
Wikidata weekly summary #331
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- Discussions
- Open request for adminship: Ayack
- New request for comments: 2018 administrator policy update
- Closed request for comments: Adding short code for cryptocurrencies
- Events
- Past: 19-21 September 2018, New York City: Wikibase workshop at Rhizome
- Upcoming: IRC office hour, on Tuesday September 25th, from 18:00 to 19:00 (UTC+2, Berlin time) on the channel wikimedia-office
- Press, articles, blog posts
- Supporting Community Events: spotlight on ‘Social Media Exchange’ (SMEX) in Lebanon, by MySociety
- Using OpenStack to run a custom Wikibase, by Andra Waagmeester
- Creating linked open data for Victorian shipping registers on the National Library of Wales blog
- Other Noteworthy Stuff
- The OpenStreetMap wiki enabled Wikibase, to describe OSM tags and keys. Here's what an entry for moveable bridge looks like: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Item:Q104
- TABernacle, a tool to edit Wikidata on a table view, was rewritten by Magnus Manske
- Did you know?
- Newest properties:
- General datatypes: Index Herbariorum code, model item, perfume note, place of devotion, Taxonomic Literature 2 number, video designer, projection designer, mode of derivation, work hardening strain, tuition fee, foreign transaction fee, trading fee, account charge / subscription fee, borrowing rate, interest rate, JMA Magnitude, official number of town quarter
- External identifiers: Adelphi author ID, AnimeClick drama ID, Lepidoptera of Belgium ID, CharacTour character ID, Enciclovida ID, IGN film ID, LakeNet ID, Mathematical Reviews journal ID, MobyGames platform ID, Northern Ireland Assembly ID, Norwegian war refugees register ID, re3data repository ID, ResearchGate publication ID, SJPXVII ID, SPXVI ID, Qualité Tourisme ID, Muziekweb Performer ID, Tourisme & Handicap ID, Indonesian Basic Data of Primary and Secondary Education ID, Microsoft Store app ID, Arkivportalen agent ID, Archiveportal archive ID, Preferred Hotels & Resorts hotel ID, Bpk-ID, UOL Eleições ID, Uralonet ID, Álgu ID
- New property proposals to review:
- General datatypes: Spotify show ID, derived from sense, creates, Short Title Catalogus Vlaanderen (STCV) ID, acquisition date, Løøv classification, Non-free artwork image URL, Kompositionsfuge, abbrév., subject lexeme
- External identifiers: HKCAN ID, Shazam artist ID, Sprockhoff-Nummer, Wikibase Registry ID, GTB database IDs, Depósito Legal ID, Moviepilot.de series ID, Australia and New Zealand Standard Research Classification 2008, IGN series ID, old-computers.com ID, Kunstenpunt productions, tweet ID, Open Food Facts ingredient ID, bazakolejowa.pl railway line ID, SUCA code, VicFlora ID
- Query examples:
- New bot requests: Import and maintain nominal GDP for countries from the World Bank Data API, Create indiscriminately new items, Missing P31, Importing lexemes from en.Wiktionary in specific languages
- Newest properties:
- Development
- Work on editing Form statements using the API (phab:T194732)
- Show the Lemma(s) or Representation(s) when Lexemes or Forms are mentioned in constraint reports (phab:T195315)
- Add hyphenation for long Lexeme lemmas and representations (phab:T195367)
- Normalize SPARQL queries (phab:T204122, thanks to Abiàn)
- Fix a bug on the Query Service about exported query results being different from the displayed result (phab:T195258)
- Fix a bug on the Query Service about empty map results returning error (phab:T178786)
You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.
- Monthly Tasks
- Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
- Comment on property proposals: all open proposals
- Suggested and open tasks!
- Contribute to a Showcase item.
- Help translate or proofread the interface and documentation pages, in your own language!
- Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
- Help write the next summary!
Da Ming Baochao
Regarding the article Da Ming Baochao, you cited the late John E. Sandrock's paper, Ancient Chinese Cash Notes. Sandrock relied heavily on Meng Lin's 泉布统誌 Ch’uan Pu Tung Chih which is a 19th century forgery. The notes contained in it never existed, they were complete fantasy. Whoever forged it likely forged banknotes designed to dupe collectors of antiquities. Many of the images you've uploaded to the Commons are also forgeries as well. This article on Ming banknotes may have to be rewritten.--Countakeshi (talk) 02:19, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Countakeshi: Thank you for bringing it to my attention, I was in fact unaware that Lin Meng's work was so fraudulent, I'm new to writing about Ming Dynasty banknotes and probably should've have double checked, I will remove the images from the paper if the ones used in the article are forgeries and fantasies as well (or you could do it as I don't know which illustrations are of forgeries and which ones are genuine), do you by the way have any better sources I could use? --Donald Trung (talk) 02:41, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
- I'm holding out for better sources which is why I'm hesitant to start new articles or make major edits on Chinese banknotes. Hopefully, I'll find some articles published by members of the International Banknote Society.--Countakeshi (talk) 03:17, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Countakeshi:, yes, but there is misinformation I as a Ming banknote layman wasn't aware of in the article right now, I don't like being responsible for this bad information being here, can you cut out the bad parts? I'd rather see a third of that article go than have 1 (one) more reader believe something inaccurate. Is John E. Sandrock in general unreliable or just Lin Meng? Because I want my final Wikipedia article to be one about Qing Period paper money and would rather leave out a bad source then (Qing paper money is thankfully a subject I do know more about, but only from the Guangxu era onwards). --Donald Trung (talk) 06:13, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
- I think it's Meng but Sandrock relies so much on him that they might as well be considered the same in reliability. It will take some time to sort out the good from bad. I don't think there will be any problems with Qing notes as they much more recent and well documented.--Countakeshi (talk) 10:05, 27 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Countakeshi:, yes, but there is misinformation I as a Ming banknote layman wasn't aware of in the article right now, I don't like being responsible for this bad information being here, can you cut out the bad parts? I'd rather see a third of that article go than have 1 (one) more reader believe something inaccurate. Is John E. Sandrock in general unreliable or just Lin Meng? Because I want my final Wikipedia article to be one about Qing Period paper money and would rather leave out a bad source then (Qing paper money is thankfully a subject I do know more about, but only from the Guangxu era onwards). --Donald Trung (talk) 06:13, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
- I'm holding out for better sources which is why I'm hesitant to start new articles or make major edits on Chinese banknotes. Hopefully, I'll find some articles published by members of the International Banknote Society.--Countakeshi (talk) 03:17, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
Alright thank you, I'll archive this now. --Donald Trung (talk) 11:31, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
The Signpost: 1 October 2018
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- In the media: Knowledge under fire
- Discussion report: Interface Admin policy proposal, part 2
- Arbitration report: A quiet month for Arbcom
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- Gallery: A pat on the back
- Recent research: How talk page use has changed since 2005; censorship shocks lead to centralization; is vandalism caused by workplace boredom?
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Facto Post – Issue 16 – 30 September 2018
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The Signpost: 1 October 2018
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- From the editor: Is this the new normal?
- News and notes: European copyright law moves forward
- In the media: Knowledge under fire
- Discussion report: Interface Admin policy proposal, part 2
- Arbitration report: A quiet month for Arbcom
- Technology report: Paying attention to your mobile
- Gallery: A pat on the back
- Recent research: How talk page use has changed since 2005; censorship shocks lead to centralization; is vandalism caused by workplace boredom?
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Wikidata weekly summary #332
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- Discussions
- Events
- Past: IRC office hour, September 25th
- Past: Working in a World of (linked, semantic) Open Data. Keynote by User:MartinPoulter at University of Stirling Life in Data Conference, September 28th
- Wikidata and Wikimedia workshop (30 September) and session about data modeling (2 October) at the CIDOC 2018 Conference of the International Council of Museums, Heraklion, Crete
- There were three Wikidata-related presentations at the 10th International Conference on Ecological Informatics that took place on 23-28 September in Jena.
- Upcoming: German-speaking WikiCon, October 3-5 in St Gallen (Switzerland). Several Wikidata-related talks and workshops in the programme.
- Press, articles, blog posts
- Property Path use in Wikidata Queries, by Gregory Todd Williams
- Other Noteworthy Stuff
- The templates Reasonator and Scholia are available, for linking from en.Wikisource pages to representations of Wikidata items.
- Wikidata considered unable to support hierarchical search in Structured Data for Commons, see also thread.
- Did you know?
- Newest properties:
- General datatypes: ENI number, inflection class, has inflection class, root, creates lexeme type
- External identifiers: ASCE Historical Civil Engineering Landmark ID, Comic Vine ID, DxOMark ID, Geheugen van de VU person ID, HKCAN ID, Oqaasileriffik online dictionary ID, IANA Root Zone Database ID, Shazam track ID, Spotify show ID, Shazam artist ID, Sprockhoff Number, Index of Historic Collectors and Dealers of Cubism ID, ANZSRC FoR ID
- New property proposals to review:
- General datatypes: applies to citizens of, Plot continued in, monument in the near, Sail emblem, São Paulo: os estrangeiros e a construção da cidade ID, reference template for this work, Wikipedia suggested article name, Personal title, stated in reference as, reference vocabulary, OSM zoom level
- External identifiers: OpenStreetMap wiki ID, Wiki Loves ZEOs ID, Geschützte Objekte in Ostbelgien, ComiXology Creators, War Memorials Online ID, NT Flora ID, Film Indonesia person ID, Sekolah Kita ID, Museu Nacional ID, Annuaire de la magistrature ID
- Query examples:
- People who received the Order of Merit of the Federal Republic of Germany and were also in the NSDAP (Nazi party) (source)
- Newest properties:
- Development
- Fix a bug when the "language of Lemma" box doesn't appear after failed submit of Special:NewLexeme (phab:T194347)
- Fix the order of elements in Lexeme edit diffs (phab:T185481)
- Enable constraint checks for Lexemes and Forms (phab:T195828)
- More work on editing Form Statements using API (phab:T194732)
- More work on a beta feature for suggestions based on constraints (phab:T202712)
You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.
- Monthly Tasks
- Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
- Comment on property proposals: all open proposals
- Suggested and open tasks!
- Contribute to a Showcase item.
- Help translate or proofread the interface and documentation pages, in your own language!
- Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
- Help write the next summary!