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My Contribution to the Nadia Boulanger List of Students.

Hello Dori Smith,

I am not familiar with the niceties of Wikipedia, so please forgive any errors on my part.

I am a little puzzled as to why I am being accused of "vandalism" by adding my name to the liost of Nadia Boulanger students. I studied with her for two years full time (late 60s/early 70s) and then continued seeing her right up to the Christmas before her death. You can find out more about me here - http://www.aberystwythartscentre.co.uk/misc/courses/tutor.php?tutor_id=14

I can see no reason why you, if it is you, have removed my name.

Best wishes,

Albert Alan Owen aka - A.A.Owen — Preceding unsigned comment added by AAOwen (talkcontribs) 22:51, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

The List of students of Nadia Boulanger isn't a complete list of all of her students, and isn't meant to be. It's just a list of those students who are already considered notable. Every name on that list should be a blue link to that person's WP page. DoriTalkContribs 01:07, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
Thanks Dori — I think you've answered AAOwen's query on my talk page too. Best wishes! --Deskford (talk) 01:59, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
Hello Dori Smith,
Thank you for replying and your explanation.
As I said, I am not familiar with the Ways of Wikipedia and did not realise that it was self referential. I'll just say that if being honoured by the Royal Academy of Music and being a one time Dean of Studies at London's Working Men's College etc., etc., doesn't make me "notable" enough (in your eyes)to be included on this list then that is something I will have to live with. The Internet is a funny old place after all ;-)
But, facts are facts and I was a student of this great person.
Nadia Boulanger said of me: "you are a real musician, gifted and inspired" and if you care to look at my website you will see a signed photo from her to me.
Best wishes,
Albert Alan Owen
(A.A.Owen) — Preceding unsigned comment added by AAOwen (talkcontribs) 09:11, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Your review at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/V3 Media Group

My name is Chris, and I'm the author of this page, as it stands now. Most of my information has come directly from Dale Vaughn, the founder of the company. How would you suggest that I give more sources to make sure that it meets that standard? Should I somehow cite that I have interviewed him? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ccallrun (talkcontribs) 16:33, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Your review at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/V3 Media Group

My name is Chris, and I'm the author of this page, as it stands now. First, thanks for reviewing it. I'm glad that I'm at least getting that going.

Most of my information has come directly from Dale Vaughn, the founder of the company. How would you suggest that I give more sources to make sure that it meets that standard? Should I somehow cite that I have interviewed him?

Ccallrun (talk) 16:35, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Unfortunately, a personal interview with a principal of the company doesn't work as a reference. Face-sad.svg Take a look at the links about verifiable and reliable secondary sources; they should give you some ideas about what can be used. DoriTalkContribs 18:29, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
I suppose that makes sense. So the next order of business would be to get someone else to write an article about V3 and to get it published. But I do have one more question. V3 has clients/organizations with published web sites. A web site may not be an article, but it is published material, no? Would it be possible to list published web sites as reference-able material? Or would that fall under questionable sources? Thanks for all of your help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ccallrun (talkcontribs) 18:53, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
Given that the article says that V3 Media creates those web pages, I can't see how that would qualify as a reliable secondary source. DoriTalkContribs 18:57, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Your review at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Miranda Marie Gipson

I've added the sources. Please let me know if this is what you want. Welch7985 (talk) 20:32, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

As I see it, there are two main issues:
  1. You've added links, but those links don't appear to be to verifiable and reliable secondary sources.
  2. The proposed article never explains how she meets any of WP's notability requirements. I recommend that you read the general notability and sports notability guidelines.
Hope this helps! DoriTalkContribs 09:34, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Your review at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Dbdragon

Help me with my article.

for ideas for my article contact [details removed] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.193.143.45 (talkcontribs) 16:06, 27 January 2012‎

The entire content of your proposed article is:

DBDragon is a book company that makes books for ages 10 to any age.

with a link that goes to a blank page on a free web hosting service. Based on this, they do not appear to be a company that qualifies to have a WP article, so I'm not sure what there is to help you with. DoriTalkContribs 09:34, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

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A notification that the Templates for Discussion discussion (oy, repetition) has been taken to a deletion review discussion. The Article Rescue Squadron was notified, and as notifications to previous involved parties isn't normal practise, I and a few ARS members agreed that, in the interests of transparency and fairness, we should let everyone know...hence this talkpage message ;).

If anyone has an issue with me sending these out, do drop me a note on my talkpage. Regards, Ironholds (talk) 10:28, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks; I've added my 2¢ there. DoriTalkContribs 12:27, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Your review at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Leap

Hi, Thank you for reviewing my article. I am aware that the other article you mentioned talks about the same organisation and i have updated that one with the same details however the title of the organisation is out of date as they no longer use the strapline. Is it possible to change the title of the original article created or even delete it to make room for the updated one i have created? Thank you.

Your review at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Leap

Hi, Thank you for reviewing my article. I am aware that the other article you mentioned talks about the same organisation and i have updated that one with the same details however the title of the organisation is out of date as they no longer use the strapline. Is it possible to change the title of the original article created or even delete it to make room for the updated one i have created? Thank you (LSouthgate (talk) 12:34, 27 January 2012 (UTC)).

If a group has changed its name, the answer isn't to create a second article. If you can find a verifiable and reliable secondary source that mentions the name change, changing the name of the article itself isn't a a big deal. DoriTalkContribs 18:29, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
Thankyou. Can you please tell me how i can change the name of the article? (LSouthgate (talk) 09:07, 30 January 2012 (UTC))
Do you have "a verifiable and reliable secondary source that mentions the name change"? DoriTalkContribs 20:33, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

RE: Help: Jurabek Laboratories

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Adverting?

I am not use to Wikipedia so please assist me. I am doing a biography about Gragg and he has over 100 inventions in the new millennium no less. He has been named in countless articles over the years, known internationally, when his most famous invention created a world phenomena, and those articles have now became museum pieces. I have searched the world over and have not found any subject quite like him. I have now reduced his inventor section down to simply "James (J.D.) Gragg is an inventor, U.S. Patent #5,290,094.[1]". Now can you please tell me how you can consider this an advertisement especially when Mr. Gragg does not sell any products? I have looked at your other inventors listed and they go far beyond what I have submitted. Best regards, Christian St.James70.234.191.192 (talk) 21:33, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

I'm not sure where you're getting "advertising" from. My rationale for rejecting the article was:

This suggestion doesn't sufficiently explain the importance or significance of the subject. See the speedy deletion criteria A7 and/or guidelines on biographies. Please provide more information on why the person or group is worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia, and cite reliable, published third-party sources, so that the information in the article is verifiable. Thank you.

Given the content of the proposed page (per your description), I believe that both my rejection and my rationale were appropriate. DoriTalkContribs 20:30, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Your unmonitored nomination for deletion

Now, after all the work, you still left Nagartha nominated for deletion because:

"Orphaned uncategorized dead-end page with no verifiable references. The PDF at the National Commission for Backward Classes link is irrelevant; as the article itself says, the group is not counted as a Backward class. It's unclear if this is a duplicate, subset, or superset of Namdhari (or entirely unrelated). Articles which list similar groups don't mention this one (e.g., Vaishya, List of Indian castes, List of Scheduled Tribes in India, Forward caste, and so on).

Additionally, much of this article appears to be a copy-paste from page 12 of this PDF. Dori ☾Talk ⁘ Contribs☽ 05:22, 12 January 2012 (UTC)"

  1. It is categorized. Unorphaning it would require correctly all of the articles you list it as not mentioned in. All of these articles, by the way, containing glaringly obvious wrong information. Linking to them is a bad idea.
  2. There are verifiable references. When I started adding information from them, you criticized my English. (And, yes you did, you said the article required someone "with a solid knowledge of the topic and excellent English skills," dismissing not only yourself and the editor who started the article, but anyone who was working on it, namely me.)
  3. The PDF at the National Commission for Backward Classes is relevant; they're a commission that does extensive ethnographic information on castes in India, and, if the caste is found not to be allowed to benefit from preferences, it is based on factually gathered ethnographic information from literature searches, and personal interviews with experts on the caste. The information from these primary, secondary, and tertiary sources are then synthesized in an official document. Just because the official report arose in India, it does not make it less relevant than getting the geology of a region from a US EIR that decides the project will have no impact on the region.
  4. Namdhari Sikhs have nothing to do with this caste, and you give no reason for even raising this issue, and your questioning whether one thing is related to something potentially completely unrelated is no basis for deletion. Can we now nominate W. L. Golightly for deletion because Audrey Hepburn played the character Holly Golightly in a film. What you might say? Yes, what.
  5. Wikipedia isn't even considered a reliable source for Wikipedia articles. The coverage of South Asian subjects is a disaster, and suffers mostly from omission of relevant subjects for reasons like, well, there's a Sikh sect with the same name (maybe transliterated from the Punjabi) as a sect of a South Indian caste (maybe transliterated from Kannada, or maybe it's ancient Urdu or Hindi, so Punjabi might be relevant, but you never tied it together, you simply offered your speculation as a reason for deletion), and since you don't know why they're related, Wikipedia should delete the South Indian caste.
  6. The copy-paste was mostly corrected with information from a couple of informative texts on the region, but then the article writer was insulted for poor English skills before getting around to adding the references line-by-line.

So, you have no reasons for deletion, yet you left it nominated for deletion, and now, because it was closed with no consensus, it remains a target for deletion for someone else who decides that no discussion about its relationship to the Sikh sect with a similar transliteration means it should be deleted from Wikipedia or someone who decides that Indian official documents are irrelevant as references while Western ones are a-okay.

And this is why Wikipedia is such a poor resource on South Asian articles, the articles are nominated for deletion for false reasons, left nominated for deletion because it was just a drive-by deletion and fixing the issues would not get the nomination withdrawn, and the editors are sent packing, luggage weighted down with insults.

By the way, 100,000,000 people in India speak English to some degree. Large numbers of them are fluent and literate.

Pseudofusulina (talk) 17:25, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Note: Pseudofusulina wrote the above after ① I explained that no, my talk page reply didn't include them (particularly as, at that point, they'd never commented on the talk page), ② I acknowledged that hurt might be felt anyway, and so apologized three times (article talk page, user talk page, AFD page), and ③ Pseudofusulina then chose to storm off.

Current stats: 31 days on WP; 195 edits to article space; 3+ "en.wiki sucks so I'm leaving" threats (22 Jan, 24 Jan, 29 Jan) with no followthrough. How can we miss you if you don't go away? DoriTalkContribs 20:20, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
No, I didn't threaten to leave, I just left the article for you to edit.
Huge discussions about problems retaining qualified editors occur all over en.wiki. Yet, here you are, no concern whatsoever that en.wiki articles are blatantly wrong, that you nominated an article for deletion for non-existent reasons wasting time that could have been spent editing, that you insulted an editor who was correcting an article and are now encouraging them to leave. Yeah, you'll make a good admin some day.
In the time it takes you to add the tags, you could have corrected the spelling, punctuation, grammar. But you don't bother. Why is that? No need to answer. Pseudofusulina (talk) 04:36, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
PS That's just a good-bye to your talk page, not to en.wiki. But nice to see you're provoking and encouraging editors to get out of here. Pseudofusulina (talk) 04:47, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
Threats to leave: see 1 and 2. And it's an interesting concept that I have "no concern whatsoever that en.wiki articles are blatantly wrong," as I thought that was why I was nominating for AFD. My opinion: if the choice must be between wrong content and less content, I'll pick the latter. But then, I'm the one with several years and thousands more WP edits, and I'm the one who apologized for and yet is still getting bitched at for something I didn't even do—so what the hell do I know about motivation? DoriTalkContribs 04:52, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

Reine Mazoyer

Hello DoriSmith

I have tried to do as requested on references for this new page, I hope it is satisfactory. I can add and amend where necessary.

I can also do a French translation.

There was one problem with the red Robert Mazoyer that I didnt understand at all.

Best regards Eachran — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eachran (talkcontribs) 14:01, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

Robert Mazoyer is red-linked because—while he does have a page on the French Wikipedia—he doesn't have a page on the English Wikipedia.
Based on the article you've proposed, it sounds as if Reine is better-known in French-speaking countries than in English-speaking countries. Maybe you should try creating it on the French Wikipedia first? DoriTalkContribs 22:39, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
Thanks DoriSmith I thought about doing a French language version but decided that starting off with English was better. Living in Europe it is clear that the lingua franca is English whether for EU meetings or conversations between Swedes and Dutch. English is everywhere.
If my first attempt at Reine Mazoyer is unsatisfactory for some reason then I am happy to beef it up.
Best regards Eachran — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eachran (talkcontribs) 14:34, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

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Your review at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Henry Vann

You have got to be kidding me? Did you go to the link I gave you? ALL of the information is right there!! My grandfather, Henry Vann, was a four-term senator!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.111.28.207 (talk) 02:24, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

The sole link you gave was to http://www.ebooksread.com/authors-eng/north-carolina-secretary-of-state/north-carolina-manual-serial-volume-1957-tro/page-36-north-carolina-manual-serial-volume-1957-tro.shtml — which does not appear to be a verifiable and reliable secondary source. And to make it worse, the entire proposed article was a copy/paste from that link, meaning that the article was a copyright violation. 03:06, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

afd recreation

An AFD article you participated in has been recreated. You may wish to comment Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Pascal_Andres_(2nd_nomination) Gaijin42 (talk) 14:50, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks — I researched this one, and have now !voted again. DoriTalkContribs 23:56, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

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Trapt

Background: Editor Radboner broke WP:3RR on Trapt, so I reverted him, reported him, and left him a talk page message saying so with info about 3RR.

Participants:

DoriTalkContribs 03:03, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Deleting true information

I am the owner of the "TRAPT" trademark and copyright as well as the vocalist for TRAPT. I added the date upon which our former drummer left the band TRAPT as well as the name of the person who played 3 subsequent shows after his departure. Why dori smith would take this info down is beyond me. Why random people who have no first hand knowledge of the band TRAPT, would have more power to make edits to trapt's history than the band itself is reprehensible. I have lawyers looking into this matter and I will not rest until Wikipedia no longer has the ability to take the power of a band to educate people on it's history away from the band.

Sincerely, Chris Taylor brown Vocalist TRAPT — Preceding unsigned comment added by Radboner (talkcontribs) 03:19, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)I have reported this Legal Threat at ANI: Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Legal_threat_by_User:Radboner_at_User_talk:DoriSmith. PamD 08:31, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
And I have dealt with it. This editor has been indefinitely blocked under our WP:NLT policy. Manning (talk) 08:50, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
Thanks, all! DoriTalkContribs 03:03, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Stop reverting Chris Brown's edit please

Hey, on the Trapt wikipedia page, the lead singer Chris Brown (Radboner) is editing the page and you keep reverting it... Not sure why, but it's his band, so could you let up? Thanks. (If you want proof that it's actually Chris Brown just check his personal facebook page, christaylorbrown). Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.50.142.102 (talkcontribs) 21:40, 3 February 2012‎

I am an administrator of Wikipedia. Please read our policy on reliable sources and verification to understand why this material is being deleted. This person may well be who you say it is, or it may not. It is beyond our scope to validate every editor who comes here claiming to be someone, which is why we only accept material available from reliable sources. Manning (talk) 08:53, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
Note: Chris Taylor Brown also whined about me on FB, not that I really care. DoriTalkContribs 03:03, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Keep me posted

Hi Dori, if you need any admin-level help keeping this page under control, let me know. I just glanced at it and I can't tell what is properly referenced and what isn't (OK, I probably could but I'm lazy), so just give me a shout if there's something I can do. Cheers Manning (talk) 11:56, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

I'm no expert in this area, but imo right now, Trapt is a mess. If you took out everything that's unreferenced, solely based on primary sources, and/or referenced to now-dead links, virtually nothing would be left. Dunno what to do about that, though; I don't care enough about this article to continue given the crap being flung at me here and on Facebook. But thanks for the offer—it's much appreciated! DoriTalkContribs 06:46, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Saj-nicole A Joni page

Hi Dori,

The page I put in for submission for Saj-nicole Joni was declined saying that there were not reliable third party sources. But I don't see any edits? I was hoping you might be able to tell me what you would like sourced? There were links to all of the books and articles and the websites.

Thanks in advance,

Lena Goodwin (talk) 02:21, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Have you read the links about verifiable and reliable secondary sources? Currently, your proposed article has none, and they're required for every article. DoriTalkContribs 07:00, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
Hi Dori,
I did extensive referencing last night of each item that I believe there could/should be a link too. Can you let me know if that solved the issue? Thanks again,
Lena Goodwin (talk) 16:03, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
I think we're having a terminology misunderstanding—you added external links (which would have to be moved/removed before it could become an article), but not references. Have you read the WP policies and guidelines about verifiable and reliable secondary sources? DoriTalkContribs 21:18, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
Saj-nicole A Joni page
Hi Dori,
I edited the page to reference all items. I think autobot (?) declined the page, but I am not sure. As well, I have reviewed all of the instructions and cannot tell what items or references are missing. I was hoping you might be able to tell me? There are no visible edits on the page so I am not sure what is missing or incorrect.
Thank you so much in advance for your help.
Lena — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lena Goodwin (talkcontribs) 14:15, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
Take a look at the edits that User:TEB728 made to your proposed article—that should give you a good idea of what still needs to be done (in particular, adding citations wherever there's currently a {{citation needed}} tag). DoriTalkContribs 03:01, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

info removed

Hello Dori, I was wounder why my info was removed. I did not mention any company names, the resin why I am ask is because the info that I submitted was talking about a new ballistic gel that people can get. The info that I posted can be found on ballistekgel.com. Other company name our on the site, I was just trying to let people know about a new product

please let me know that I have to do to get my info re-posted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ballistekgel (talkcontribs) 03:16, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

You may not have added company names to Ballistic gelatin, but you did add a link to ballistekgel.com. That's Spam, and it's part of why Daniel Case blocked you. DoriTalkContribs 03:01, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

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Truteau Association of America

Ms Smith, The "Truteau Association of America" (Association des Truteau d'Amérique) is a nonprofit cultural organization dedicated to history and education. We have no purpose of profit in our writings on Wikipedia. We suggest you keep our information about the canadian patent obtained by Auguste Trudeau in 1935, because it is the fruit of historical researches we conduct on events and personalities that have marked history of America as John Ford or anybody else may have done.Truteau (talk) 13:46, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

When you represent an organization, and your edits primarily consist of adding links to said organization, I strongly recommend that you read up on Wikipedia's policies about organizations:
Otherwise, you're very likely to find yourself blocked. DoriTalkContribs 00:25, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Iggyhajduk

This gave me quite a chuckle today. Bravo! --Chris (talk) 15:40, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

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inre Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fun Size

I invite you to take another look at the article. I dislike when something with potential gets the bum's rush, and so took it upon myself to begin expanding the sorry stub that was so speedily nominated, making it into something that can continue to grow to serve the readers. One of the first articles I found in my serach for sources was a lengthy on in The New York Times that addresses the topic directly and in detail. Then one by one I found others with which to expand it. A topic's notability if determined through available sources, and policy specifically allows that future events may be written of if they exceed the WP:GNG. This one does. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 07:01, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

And in a follow-up: Based upon improvements to the article, the nominator has withdrrawn.[1] Might you also reconsider? Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 04:17, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

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Thank you!

ToriFr 01:41, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Above from User:ToriFr, after I (and others) rolled back all his edits and I left a {{welcomespam}} on his talk page.

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Afdrescue

Do we really want to delete that one when the new one is only 13 days old? I left the CSD tag on it for now but I wonder if it's the right thing to do. Keep in mind it may have been subst more than transcluded so you can't easily judge how much it was used by "what links here" Gigs (talk) 14:18, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Usage of the {{Afdrescue}} tag should fall into one of two categories:
  • Old usage - should have been substituted, so deletion would have no effect.
  • New usage - shouldn't be used any more, so deletion would have no effect.
Additionally, it was always a lesser-used dupe of {{ARSnote}}, which has already been deleted. The end result, though, is that due to the above, I think it can be safely deleted without any issues. DoriTalkContribs 22:06, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

3rd Edit

Dori,

Thanks for your patience editing my Wikipedia article about End Time Overcomers. I haven't tried to write in an academic style (formal, neutral, independent, etc.) since my graduate thesis in 1993. I think it's coming back to me though.

In my last edit I erased a bunch of unsubstantiated statements and (peacock) opinions from the article, and tried to make sure everything that remains is presented in a neutral tone, with reliable sources to back it up.

I just resubmitted version 4 for your consideration. It should be close to Wikipedia standards now, but if not I'll be glad to fix it.

Thanks again,

Tom (talk) 17:28, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

I'm not by any means the only one who can review proposals at WP:AFC. Given that I don't think WT:Articles for creation/End time overcomers has a shot at becoming an article, I'll leave this version for someone else to review. DoriTalkContribs 22:06, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

User logicaldecisions

Hi Dori, Let me introduce myself. My name is Gary Smith and I am the sole proprietor of the Logical Decisions company and developer of the Logical Decisions software described on the Decision-Making Software page. Someone else added Logical Decisions to the page and I want to make sure that the information is accurate. Since several of the other software packages have links, I added one for Logical Decisions also. Please let me know if any of this violates Wikipedia's guidelines. Best wishes, Gary — Preceding unsigned comment added by Logicaldecisions (talkcontribs) 02:52, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

I saw your edit to Decision-making software, and I did some cleanup on it afterwards (part 1, part 2). There's a couple of different issues here: firstly, you have a clear COI, so any changes you make that reference your product are automatically suspect. Additionally, In this particular situation, the issue wasn't so much that other products had links to their sites and that therefore yours should as well, but that other products had links, and none of them should (unless their site is being used as a reference). I took care of that when I did the cleanup. But overall, you really want to read:
DoriTalkContribs 00:10, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

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My response. DoriTalkContribs 00:10, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
I've responded to you on my page. Simackh (talk) 17:32, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion declined: Djordje Alfirevic

Hello DoriSmith. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Djordje Alfirevic, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: The article makes a credible assertion of importance or significance, sufficient to pass A7. Thank you. Reaper Eternal (talk) 14:14, 17 February 2012 (UTC)