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A tag has been placed on Turners Estate Solutions, requesting that it be deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under two or more of the criteria for speedy deletion, by which articles can be deleted at any time, without discussion. If the page meets any of these strictly-defined criteria, then it may be soon be deleted by an administrator. The reasons it has been tagged are:

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A tag has been placed on User:Earromar, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. Squinge (talk) 14:42, 22 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

February 2015[edit]

Information icon Please do not add promotional material to Wikipedia. While objective prose about beliefs, products or services is acceptable, Wikipedia is not intended to be a vehicle for soapboxing, advertising or promotion. Thank you. Peridon (talk) 14:47, 22 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]


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You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for advertising or promotion. From your contributions, this seems to be your only purpose. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding the following text below this notice: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. However, you should read the guide to appealing blocks first.   —SMALLJIM  18:49, 22 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

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Request reason:

STOP DELETING MY USER PAGE WHICH I OWN AND IT IS NOT YOURS

Decline reason:

You are very mistaken. Wikipedia policies do not allow you to "own" your pages. All pages must meet Wikipedia policies. Yours clearly violate our policies on spam and advertising. only (talk) 18:58, 22 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]


If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

Ahh so I can edit "your" page then can I? Earromar (talk) 18:59, 22 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
No, it's vandalism to make unwanted changes to others' user pages which otherwise meet Wikipedia's rules and guidelines. only (talk) 19:04, 22 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest you read at least one of the pages that is linked to above: Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations.  —SMALLJIM  18:53, 22 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Read them? I wrote them, all I said was that our team at Mark Smith Glazing are committed to customer satisfaction and finding practical and innovative options for all of your glass and glazing requirements. Founded in 1997 Mark Smith has earned a deserved reputation for quality craftsmanship, competitive and transparent pricing, reliability and sensitivity to his customer needs. Above all, Mark has a dedicated, experienced team to back up this reputation. We will competitively quote for all domestic and commercial glass and mirror work including double glazing, sash and case windows, shop fronts, patio doors, balustrades and balconies and energy efficient windows. Having expanded in 2006 through purchasing our sister company Mark Smith Windows (previously J&B Windows). Our products include UPVC, Aluminium Windows and Doors and roof lights. So what is wrong with that? --Earromar (talk) 18:54, 22 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

What's wrong is that you're using Wikipedia to advertise for your company. We're an encyclopedia, not free ad space. Huon (talk) 19:01, 22 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I think you should try reading some other articles on Wikipedia. If you find one worded in the way you worded yours, please tell us. Peridon (talk) 19:16, 22 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Hey Peridon!! You're an administrator, that is cool! So, we have a deal? I can name three articles (probably lurking unnoticed) that are "obvious cases of spam". I know which ones they are. So, you lift my ban, yes? I in turn will reveal the "dirty articles" to you. Thanks. --Earromar (talk) 19:18, 22 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
If you find similarly promotional userpages we'll happily list them for deletion as we did with yours. Meters (talk) 19:20, 22 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sure you will - but there they will stay, unless my block is lifted. That is the deal, the admins can take it or leave it Meters. Earromar (talk) 21:10, 22 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
This indicates you're not really interested in improving the encyclopedia. Otherwise you'd help us get rid of spam without expecting something in return. Huon (talk) 21:19, 22 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Every human being has the right to edit because this is on record as being a "free encyclopedia". I am indeed interested in editing constructively - and would happily demonstrate this by removing spam from legit articles and or/nominating for deletion the hoax articles. I know where it's at. But if I am not allowed to edit, you have to ask yourself, what is the point me telling you and the gang where the bad stuff is? Think about it. I say "this page that page third line", you all say "Thanks very much" but it remains curtains for poor old Earromar who tried his luck at promoting his own firm :( Earromar (talk) 21:25, 22 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

(Non-administrator comment) You are mistaken. Wikipedia is, in the end, run by a private nonprofit foundation and Wikipedia being a "free encyclopedia" in no way infers or requires that "Every human being has the right to edit". Cheers, --L235 (t / c / ping in reply) 21:34, 22 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This is precisely what I mean. What would be the point in telling us about the spam you found? Why, getting a less spammy, better Wikipedia. But you try to keep your knowledge secret as a bargaining chip for getting unblocked. That won't work. Also, even if you were unblocked, promoting your own firm still would not be permitted, and trying it again would quickly see you blocked again. Huon (talk) 22:31, 22 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

(Non-administrator comment)This is very strange indeed. If it is not the case that all people have the right to edit, then may one please provide me with the list of names of people that can edit and a list of those that cannot so I see where my name is. Now moving on, by me pointing out where spam is lying undetected, I would be doing the service of a "legit" editor - except this is something I am currently not. Plus, according to the rules my right to edit this page is ONLY to discuss the block being lifted which is what this does relate to. Now if I start using it to say, it says "bla bla bla!" of such and such an article - this is spelt wrong there, that is a grammatical error here, before you know it you guys will be breaking the rules for proxying for a banned user. I have no intention of repromoting my firm, I've already been paid for what I did (the info is now circulated on Gooogle/Yahoo mirror sites with nothing anyone can do) but it doesn't mean I, Earromar, do not want to be an editor, yes I do! So, what Huon must ask him/herself is, what use to me as a banned editor is "a better Wikipedia"? Earromar (talk) 07:16, 23 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]