User talk:Electron9/2013-06-24

Nomination of RDOS (ekblad) for deletion

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Contamination drug "Bute" = Phenylbutazone disambig ?

Electron9, Phenylbutazone is used in horses as a pain relief, or a reducer of fevers. Clenbuterol isn't used with horses in any way. Phenylbutazone was used for humans in the past, but is no longer used as it is a possible risk for humans. This explains why the Findus meat may be dangerous as the Phenylbutazone within the HORSEmeat can be dangerous when consumed by humans. Cobbie98 (talk) 11:04, 12 Febuary 2013 (UTC)

FYI Electron, if you need help on the horse stuff, feel free to post on talk over at [{WP:EQUINE]]. We can clarify matters further if needed. Montanabw^(talk) 20:11, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

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And my edits were hardly something worth adding to the DRN. AldezD (talk) 16:04, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

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Sorry about the edit conflict in 2013 meat adulteration scandal. Am adding some source material, will try to fix edit conflicts if I hit another one. Montanabw^(talk) 20:09, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

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Query

What were you trying to do here? --John (talk) 17:23, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Easier to read dates and link to disease that is relevant to horses. Electron9 (talk) 19:56, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

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Horse meat

Hey, I made a further comment in replay to what you said about my concern of selection of companies, you didn't make any further comments or objections, when I said that I will remove the bit on case I know more about. So why do you restore this now and still don't make any comments? As I said before I doubt listing every single party involved in continent-wide case is possible and listing minor cases is overemphasizing their involvement ~~Xil (talk) 02:51, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

If a canned meat brand is tainted. People should know. Electron9 (talk) 03:00, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

But, as I said on article's talk, Wikipedia's purpose is not to warn people about something. It sounds more like mission statement of a newspaper. In this case it actually might be creating wrong impression to the people - it seems there might be plenty of cases of food mislabeling, if you focus on few cases, it creates impression that nobody else is involved. So on one hand it is WP:UNDUE and unfair to these companies, considering they too did not know what meat it is, and other hand, even if we assume that we should be protecting interests of general public, by misrepresenting the facts and not giving accurate overview you are misleading them to believe that all other food is safe ~~Xil (talk) 03:47, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

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I remind you that “k” is a standardized SI prefix which means 1000. If you ever made a low-level programming, then you should know that 1000 bytes unit does not have use there. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 04:15, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Ever used MB?, does it mean 1000 000 bytes or 1048 576 bytes? Electron9 (talk) 10:53, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

I know about the problem with ambiguous use of “M” and “G”. SI defines k = 10³ but does not say anything about “K”, and JEDEC memory standards define K = 2¹⁰. Just do not bring the dirt where it was not already present, please. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 11:33, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

The hint is the context, ie computer memory equals base 2 is used. Physics stuff equals base 10 etc.. Thus it can from the context VGA -> computer -> memory be deduced that base 2 is used and thus kB will there mean 1024 bytes. The only real mayhem is the use of GB being 10^9 in context of harddisks. Electron9 (talk) 12:12, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

If you saw the power-on self-test screen on PCs, especially old PCs, then you could notice that it features KB (such as 640 KB, 1024 KB, 4096 KB, 32768 KB…) and never kB. JEDEC seconds this with its notation. And, not least, neither SI nor IEC do not recommend “k” for 1024 (IEC recommends Ki which is closer to “K” than to “k”). Your edit was a mistake, and if you will not make such “improvements” in the future, then there is no point to continue arguing here. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 00:59, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

So how does JEDEC handle MB 1000000 vs 1048576 bytes ..? I used KB all the way until I figured it doesn't add up in the bigger picture. Electron9 (talk) 01:04, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

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