User talk:Elvira100

Welcome!

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Re: Unsourced Section

Hi Elvira. That's a great start on the sourcing, nice job. A lot of the language in the later paragraphs of that section read like blatant advertising, so I changed the wording, and in a couple cases, removed material not in the sources. There were some complains on the talk page about the advertisement-like bias as well. I placed {{fact}} tags after some sentences which really needed verification, and left others (that still should have them, but that I know are accurate) alone. Feel free to keep adding! DMCer (talk) 11:46, 13 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I will keep working on it.Elvira100 (talk) 14:06, 13 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nice job! Feel free to remove tags anywhere when you think it's appropriate to do so! I've made some more improvements, but it looks good as far as sources/links/neutrality. Thanks.--DMCer (talk) 19:55, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, good job! I think a good next step would be to get it reviewed by a relevant Wikipedia:Project. --Ronz (talk) 19:12, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Elvira100,

I noticed you changed my posting again on the Net Promoter Score page. Per your earlier change, you said that I posted my own white paper. In the new posting that you removed, I did not cite my white paper in the free download. The free download is now the reprint of my article that appeared in the Quality Progress magazine (published in June 2008). I created the free download because users could not easily access the paper from the Quality Progress site. I've seen other postings on wikipedia using this same approach. Please let me know if this is acceptable. If it is, I will repost .

Bobehayes (talk) 21:50, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please see your own talk page for a description of the reasons for dis-allowing the reference to your article. Essentially, it is similar to the issues DMCer and Ronz have raised about other edits, violating WP:NPOV, which has to do with self-sourcing and establishing a neutral point of view in articles. -- Elvira100 (talk) 16:29, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

July 2012

Please do not add promotional material to Wikipedia, as you did to Net Promoter. While objective prose about beliefs, products or services is acceptable, Wikipedia is not intended to be a vehicle for soapboxing, advertising or promotion. Thank you.

See also WP:COI in case it might apply. --Ronz (talk) 15:55, 3 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Loyalty business model

I appreciate what you wrote in the alert-message I read. Either Vikan Mittal or someone who knows about him has been inserting references to him all over WP in an unrelenting advertising campaign. WP is not made for that. Iss246 (talk) 18:25, 12 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Rob Markey (February 22)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by AngusWOOF were:

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

This submission provides insufficient context for those unfamiliar with the subject matter. Please see the guide to writing better articles for information on how to better format your submission.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Why isn't Markey's name headlined as co-author in http://www.netpromotersystem.com/about/why-net-promoter.aspx ? It shows he co-authored (or has a "with" credit) on The Ultimate Question. Need more sources outside their Net Promoter websites and book press release that cover Markey's life.

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AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 02:46, 22 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Your draft article, Draft:Rob Markey

Hello, Elvira100. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Rob Markey".

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! JMHamo (talk) 20:06, 31 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Rob Markey

Rob Markey, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

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1292simon (talk) 09:50, 11 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

May 2020

Hello Elvira100. The nature of your edits, such as the one you made to Rob Markey, gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially egregious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat SEO.

Paid advocates are very strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are extremely strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Elvira100. The template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=Elvira100|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 04:21, 13 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi User:Rosguill,

I am not being paid by anyone. I have an interest in the topic because of my work, but I have no COI.

Elvira100 (talk) 21:46, 18 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Elvira100, given your editing history, I'm not sure that I'm willing to buy a simple denial, and suspect that in addition to Markey you seem to likely have some sort of affiliation with Bain & Company, Net Promoter, or Fred Reichheld as well. If you disagree with this and have nothing to disclose, let me know and we can resolve the issue at the conflict of interest noticeboard. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 03:13, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

User:Rosguill, thanks for the link to the CoI noticeboard. You are correct that I don't do much editing -- just stuff that interests me and that I stumble across. In case it helps you understand the situation, I am a former consultant (not at Bain, by the way), working in the customer experience field. I am a longtime fan of Fred Reichheld, and also (more recently) of Rob Markey. I have read their books and I use NPS in my work. I have met Fred once at a conference, and I have heard both of them talk several times over the years. I don't work for them, and I don't work for Bain. No one pays me to do this. It's just something I do every now and then. Not sure what else to tell you that could be helpful. If there's something that would help, please let me know. Elvira100 (talk) 22:22, 20 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Having reviewed the edits I was looking at again, while some behavior looked suspicious in isolation, I think that in the context of additional edits to those same articles they appear more reasonable, so I don't think any further action is needed. Thank you for your additional clarification as well. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 23:17, 20 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]