User talk:FiSt71

Adding non-notable names

Hello. Your recent edit appears to have added the name of a non-notable entity to a list that normally includes only notable entries. In general, a person, organization or product added to a list should have a pre-existing article before being added to most lists. If you wish to create such an article, please first confirm that the subject qualifies for a separate, stand-alone article according to Wikipedia's notability guideline. Thank you. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 14:35, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Very difficult where the person now deleted (Sarah Archer) appeared on tv's What's my Line for being unprecedented in a male only profession of professional wine tasting. Those were days of prejudice (pre-1950s to 1970s) long gone by , at least we hope so, and many of the forerunners will have disappeared into the unknown unless someone knows enough to wiki about them at length if they are disposed to (they have to be 80years plus!). FiSt71 (talk) 15:49, 9 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Again, please stop adding names to lists unless the individual has an article, or unequivocally meets WP:BIO notability criteria (e.g., an Olympic athlete who does not yet have an article). See WP:BIO for more information regarding notability criteria. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 16:13, 9 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Apart from journalistic activity why include Libby Purvis? Some work automatically achieves notoriety: acting, politicians, writing, because the people here are constantly publicised. Those who are respected in their own industries but don't make the tabloids seem to be ruled out. Old encyclopedias, like the National Biography (multi volume, have you enough space on your bookshelf?), are wonderful sources of relevant names to historical research because these individuals were entered on a different criteria, that of increasing knowlege of the reader? Perhaps the names that you have deleted need to be entered on a separate list, that of successful old alumni and not the all exclusive 'notable' definition. FiSt71 (talk) 16:31, 9 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Taking a look at the Libby Purvis, you'll see that the WP:SIGCOV criteria of WP:BIO is met that she's received signficant coverage from several reliable sources, including the BBC and The Guardian. What's on my bookshelf is not relevant; the Wikipedia policies I've already linked to are relevant. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 18:00, 9 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Well yes, if you work for a national network & newspapers, you are going to, it's an industry that promotes its own. I realise Wikipedia now has its own rules as you keep telling me (I contributed when it started) but sometimes rules can act as sealed boxes. At least one of the entries you deleted is an acknowleged expert in their field but no, they didn't work for The Times, The Guardian, BBC. Rosalind Franklin wouldn't have made it under some of these rules.

FiSt71 (talk) 15:23, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Rockland All Saints moved to draftspace

An article you recently created, Rockland All Saints, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. Ost (talk) 06:23, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not clear what referencing you want, there is no article as yet: none of the other entries at this early stage have citations/sources. The main page for Rocklands has Rocklands All Saints as a yet to exist link. I will be providing further sourced material for that link. FiSt71 (talk) 06:56, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The references was just one problem. The article didn't even state what Rockland All Saints was at the time that I sent it to draft; it easily could have been speedy deleted under criteria A1 for lacking context. All pages should include references to demonstrate importance and have references to verify that information. Older articles may not include references if they were created before sources were essentially required, but they can be deleted if challenged and sources cannot be found to demonstrate notability. Keep in mind that in general on Wikipedia, the existence of other similar pages or content may not indicate consensus and instead illustrate that there are other pages that also need to be addressed. —Ost (talk) 14:53, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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April 2022

Hi, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you tried to give a page a different title by copying its content and pasting either the same content, or an edited version of it, into Rockland All Saints. This is known as a "cut-and-paste move", and it is undesirable because it splits the page history, which is legally required for attribution. Instead, the software used by Wikipedia has a feature that allows pages to be moved to a new title together with their edit history.

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June 2022

Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but you recently removed maintenance templates from Brandon, Suffolk. When removing maintenance templates, please be sure to either resolve the problem that the template refers to, or give a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Please see Help:Maintenance template removal for further information on when maintenance templates should or should not be removed. If this was a mistake, don't worry, as your removal of this template has been reverted. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia, and if you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. Please do not replace embedded links See WP:EL SovalValtos (talk) 16:46, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]