User talk:Fred167

Please post whatever. I am new Canadian to wikipedia and look forward to learning more.

Hello, Fred167! Welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions to this free encyclopedia. If you decide that you need help, check out Getting Help below, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and ask your question there. Please remember to sign your name on talk pages by clicking or using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your username and the date. Finally, please do your best to always fill in the edit summary field. Below are some useful links to facilitate your involvement. Happy editing! Gonzonoir (talk) 12:51, 2 March 2010 (UTC) Getting started A tutorial • Our five pillars • Getting mentored How to: edit a page • upload and use images • create your first article Intuitive guide to Wikipedia • Article Creation Wizard Getting help Frequently asked questions • Tips Where to ask questions or make comments Request administrator attention Policies and guidelines Neutral point of view • No original research Verifiability • Reliable sources • Citing sources What Wikipedia is not • Biographies of living persons List of policies • Three-revert rule • Sock puppetry Copyrights • Policy for non-free content • Image use policy External links • Spam • Vandalism • List of guidelines Deletion policy • Conflict of interest • Notability The community Build consensus • Resolve disputes Assume good faith • Civility • Etiquette No personal attacks • No legal threats Community portal • Village pump Signpost • IRC channels • Mailing lists Writing articles Be bold in editing • Develop an article The perfect article • Manual of style Stubs • Categories • Disambiguation Pages needing attention • Peer review Miscellaneous User pages • Talk pages Clean up: General • Spam • Vandalism Join a WikiProject • Translation Useful templates • Tools • User scripts

Just to let you know I have replied to your post on the Help Desk. You can find my answer here. Gonzonoir (talk) 12:51, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Indopedia

Unfortunately, we don't have any direct control over Indopedia; it's an independent mirror site which simply reprints some of our content. The discussion has been archived according to our courtesy-blanking process here, but we don't have any direct control over other sites which copied the page before that was done. I will look into whether somebody from Wikipedia can contact them on your behalf to request blanking, but we can't directly blank it ourselves as we don't actually have authority over them. I'll get back to you as soon as I can with more information about what can be done, however. Bearcat (talk) 17:01, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Contacting Indopedia

Hi Fred167 - as discussed over on the Help Desk, I've found a contact email for the person who appears to be Indopedia's administrator. I'm proposing to email him and ask him to take down the page: hopefully he'll agree, and in any case we can then proceed from there. I thought we should keep you informed about what we're intending to do - if you've got any questions or concerns feel free to contact me on my talkpage, or if you want a less public forum you can email me via the "Email this user" link in the lefthand panel on my user talk page. If you'd like me to forward to you or copy you the text of my email to the Indopedia admin, just let me know where you would like me to send that information to (or I can paste it on here).

Cheers, Gonzonoir (talk) 20:41, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Just to let you know as well, I'm going to delete your post from my talk page because of the fact that the page URL in question actually contains your real name. It's not meant to imply that I'm done helping however I can; it's just to protect your privacy. Bearcat (talk) 22:38, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

I hope he'll agree as well. In case the emails you found were the same ones that I found after lengthy searches (I found an @iztok and an @orientalia.org email), you shouldn't waste your time. Neither work and bounce back with "mailbox is full." It seems that though he was once involved in his own sites, we has since reclused and is hard to get a hold of. Regardless, thank you for your efforts and please keep me updated. Any progress is fantastic. If you get any replies, please paste them on here and I'll check my talk page very often. Its nice to know Wikipedia community is so helpful. Thanks to Bearcat as well for protecting my privacy, I was planning on deleting the URL too after a couple days. Fred167 (talk) 01:32, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

The address I found is at a different domain than the two you mention, so maybe we'll have some luck: it hasn't bounced yet anyway (but neither have I yet had a reply). For reference, here is the text of my email:

Dear [name redacted],

I'm wondering if you can help me with a question about Indopedia. I gather that you are User:Imago, Indopedia's sysop ([reason for making the link redacted, in case it constitutes outing - I can explain my rationale by email]). I found your email address at [redacted for Imago's privacy] - sincere apologies if you are not this person.

I am an editor at English Wikipedia, from which the Indopedia content was extracted in 2004. Wikipedia has been contacted by a person who was in 2004 the subject of a defamatory hoax article on English Wikipedia: it was deleted following a discussion. The discussion was copied over to Indopedia where it can still be found at [url redacted for your privacy]. As you can see, the discussion cites some of the content of the deleted article. Unfortunately, that discussion is now the top Google hit for searches on [redacted]'s name, and the content in it - which was untrue, and is embarrassing for him - is causing him difficulties.

On Wikipedia we have blanked the original discussion to try to avoid causing these problems for [redacted], but the Indopedia page is still coming up in Google searches. We hope that you might be able to delete the Indopedia page as well, so that [redacted]'s name is not associated with this hoax any more. Could you let me know whether this is possible?

If you have any questions please don't hesitate to contact me.

I'll keep you posted. Gonzonoir (talk) 09:05, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

No response yet? 128.12.184.161 (talk) 18:47, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Nothing yet. I was intending to give it a day or so more and then escalate. Gonzonoir (talk) 21:57, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Just to update you: still nothing from the Indopedia sysop I'm afraid. Bearcat, who (as a contributor to the original deletion discussion) has a copyright claim on some of the material Indopedia is reproducing has begun the process set out at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Mirrors_and_forks for addressing infringing copies of Wikipedia. We'll keep you posted. Gonzonoir (talk) 10:06, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

I really appreciate both of your help. I didn't expect to find such helpfulness and community when I posted this question and I'm very grateful. Fred167 (talk) 21:53, 8 March 2010 (UTC)