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Java SE Update 3[edit]

Update 3 is out as far as I can tell. Go take a look over at java.sun.com. Unless I'm missing something simple, I'll put back my edit. Advice on why this might be incorrect would be appreciated. Thanks, AnarchyElmo 23:52, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Be More Neutral[edit]

In future, try to be more neutral when creating a disambiguation page by redirecting the original page to the disambiguation page. Circumventing the disambiguation page using redirects makes life difficult for people who want to reach the disambiguation page, especially those using dialup, and makes it impossible for people who are unaware of what a disambiguation page is to find what they are looking for. --Badharlick 17:18, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Sorry for that (I think it was in the Aes Dana page), but I didn't know how to change the redirect to the disambiguation page rather than the Aes Dana (band) page at that time. Hervegirod 22:18, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

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JFAC[edit]

Hi, I was wondering if it was alright for me to help edit the JFAC page in your user space - I have contacted the guy who suggested creating it here, asking what needs to be done before it can be added to its own page - here - I believe together we could improve the article so it is properly created. Thanks, AsicsTalk 12:05, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

  • I've edited the page adding extra info etc. and now I have requested the real page to be unprotected. I hope everything is alright on the new edit, all the information is factual including a few tiny errors I found, most info was found on the metal archives website. AsicsTalk 19:31, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
Good work !! I added a link to MTV website mentioning their last tour and their next album. Hope it will help. Hervegirod 14:18, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Lyapunov[edit]

Hello. I am minded to replace the article Alexander Liapounov, that you created, by a redirect to Aleksandr Lyapunov. which has a far more complete treatment. However, before I do so, I want to ask you for your opinion. Is there anything in your article that you want to save? -- Jitse Niesen (talk) 11:46, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

No problem,in fact I read the article about Chaos theory, and I could not find anything in wikipedia about Lyapunov, although his works were very influential in this field. I decided to create an article on him, because I did not know there was already one (could not find Aleksandr Lyapunov). Hervegirod 13:55, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

P/Invoke[edit]

Hello. I created a page about blittable types in the .NET framework and I was looking for some constructive criticism or any additions or edits you might have. The reason I ask is because I saw that you contributed heavily to the P/Invoke page. Thank you for any help you might offer. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Masojus (talkcontribs) 01:52, 14 March 2007 (UTC).

No problem, I will look at it. But it will take maybe some time, as I will be on holidays next week - skying in the French Alps ;-) Hervegirod 22:42, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Two minor things[edit]

On the Platform Invocation Services page, you wrote that UINT is an alias for int. I'm afraid that's not the case: it's an alias for unsigned int, which is why it's written UINT and not INT. ;)

Also, I don't want to sound too nitpicky, but I notice you seem to have a tendency to put spaces before colons. That's not standard typographic practice in English, though, so I think it's better to just omit the space. :) - furrykef (Talk at me) 23:02, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, I'm French, this is why I always forget !! Hervegirod 19:53, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Moving film pages[edit]

When moving film pages, follow Wikipedia:Naming conventions (films). They don't use (movie) after the title anymore, but (film). I already moved the Timebomb article. Keep up the good work though, and let me know if you have any questions. --Nehrams2020 19:03, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

oops, I should have known. Thanks !! Hervegirod 19:04, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

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The image seems to have been replaced by a picture released on the public domain, so it is a better replacement than the previous (orphaned) one. This orphaned image now falls under the criteria for speedy deletion (as there is a valid replacement for it). Hervegirod 21:12, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Image:Aes Dana band.jpg[edit]

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More replaceable fair-use images[edit]

Chowbok 08:41, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

In this case, contrary to the image on the Aes Dana (band) article, I will have a free image replacement available soon (image I shot myself during a gig), so I completely agree to this particular deletion. But I think (OK, it is only my point of view) that generic deletion of (still existing) band artifacts because a new free picture could be made available is a bit... humm... to much... As I said before, I completely agree to replace to old "non free" image (under fair use) as soon as a free image is available. Hervegirod 09:53, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Request for comment on computer program[edit]

The Computer program article is in need of repair. Would you comment on any improvement suggestions? I joined the talk starting with the thread talk:computer program#Definition of a computer program. Timhowardriley 00:50, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

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Internet Foundation Classes[edit]

No worries, what triggered the copyvio alert is Swing (Java). I'm interested in what your source for this article was, though (gonna double check the copyright status of Swing (Java)). Do you mind if I redirect Internet Foundation Classes to Swing (Java)? You both have the same content (see the History section) -- lucasbfr talk 10:13, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

My main reference is here (and linked in the article): http://www.phdcc.com/javaart2.html. I added some content to show the differenced between swing and IFC, and I planned to add an Hello World example to show the same program in the two frameworks. What do you think ? Hervegirod 11:00, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

IronRuby[edit]

Just wanted to note that IronRuby is not an web application framework like you added. This really might confuse people. I'll fix that one.

Florian Sening 11:27, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

You're right, of course !! It was a mistake in a cut & paste when creating the infobox ;-) Hervegirod 19:29, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

PE[edit]

Out of curiosity, why did you remove the "See Also" reference that was in the Performance engineering article that pointed to Java performance? SunSw0rd 15:49, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Please respond on my talk page -- thank you. SunSw0rd 13:16, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

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Notability of Cobra Noir (band)[edit]

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I was not the one who created Cobra Noir information at first (just put it in a separate article), and I don't know this band, but I think that deleting an article after 5 mns is going a bit too far ;-) Hervegirod (talk) 23:09, 17 January 2008 (UTC)


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AfD nomination of Sparx Enterprise Architect[edit]

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cockpit[edit]

Am very pleased that you are French. I have a favour to ask regarding Rafale, if you have an interest? Thanks. Wittlessgenstein (talk) 00:24, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Hello ! Yes, I'm interested in this subject !! Hervegirod (talk) 00:59, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
Thank you Hervegirod. The Rafale article currently says "On 6 December 2007 a French Air Force twin-seat aircraft... crashed... on RTL, Minister of Defence Hervé Morin stated that the cause of the crash was "pilot disorientation".[1]
There is a sound clip at this link. Unfortunately, my French is minimal. I wonder could you tell me if the Minister offers any actual "proof" of this cause or if (as it sounds tp me) he just gives an educated opinion? I have been unable to find a translated written transcript of this interview. I am not sure if the pilot was using HMD or not. Many thanks for your help! Wittlessgenstein (talk) 08:17, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
Any possibility of you taking a look? Thanks. Wittlessgenstein (talk) 21:40, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

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Aes Dana (band)[edit]

Ok, yeah, that's better. Thanks for understanding, a lot of people don't... J Milburn (talk) 23:16, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Why?[edit]

Why did you do that? 06:08, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Did what ? Hervegirod (talk) 20:38, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

ISO document version[edit]

You seem to have a lot of focus on that Micrsoft does not support the not yet published new version of Office Open XML created during the ISO standardization even though it seems common that a new format version is not supported immediatly. I wonder why you want to put specific focus on that in the Office Open XML article?

Could you for instance name me any implementation of OpenDocument that has (proven) conformance to the ISO ODF version (so not just any version) ? (That version was approved in may 2006) Could you actually eve just find any info on which versions of ODF are currently supported by OpenOffice, Google doc, KOffice as I seem unable to find that info on the sites of the respective ODF implementations ? hAl (talk) 11:04, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

You have extensive information about the status of respective implementations here. As you see, no application is stated of having "perfect support" of ODF. However, I would have liked to have links to the results, such as errors against schemas for example, in this webpage, which is not the case for now. THis has also been asked by Alex Brown on his blog. I think he will soon provide the same type of informations he just gave on MS Office vs OOXML with OpenOffice / ODF. I will be very happy to add the results in the ODF article as soon as it is published. However, the above link is already in the ODF article. Hervegirod (talk) 11:18, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
The link you provide from the odf fellowship provides no info on wheater the ISO version is actually supported either or any version info. As OOo certainly does not conform to any version of the ODF standard (for instance not supporting a different versions of MathML 2.0 as ODF requires) it seem fairly easy to get those stars. Counting support in that way Microsoft Office 2007 would also be considered to have 5 star support for the ISO transitional version of Office Open XML hAl (talk) 15:24, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
anything that does not go into your way of viewing is bad, right ? Try to listen to what others are saying sometimes (and I'm not talking specifically about me). This is the spirit of this organization. I wrote (but obviously you did not read) : As you see, no application is stated of having "perfect support" of ODF. However, I would have liked to have links to the results, such as errors against schemas for example, in this webpage, which is not the case for now. Also your sentence As OOo certainly does not conform to any version of the ODF standard comes from nowhere. Source your claims !! Hervegirod (talk) 15:36, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

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hey, wait a little before adding this tag. I just created this article since a few minutes and I'm still adding notability informations. Of course I contest speedy deletion. Give enough time to people to add facts !!! Hervegirod (talk) 10:50, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

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Apparently the article was vandalized some time ago, deleting the infobox and the label history. I readded this part (the image is not orphaned anymore now), and added a fair use rationale. Hervegirod (talk) 23:27, 5 May 2008 (UTC)


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Ruby 1.9[edit]

The current Ruby release version is 1.8.5, as stated on this page:

http://www2.ruby-lang.org/en/20020102.html

But you changed the article to state that the release version is 1.9.0:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ruby_(programming_language)&diff=209468926&oldid=209467222

This is incorrect. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vocaro (talkcontribs) 13:09, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

In fact I tried to make a difference between Ruby (the language), which is at version 1.9.0, and its official implementation, which is for the moment at version 1.8.6. It's difficult to make the difference between the two, because there is no reference for Ruby other than the official MRI itself, but it is worth separating the two (there are many alternative implementations now). Hervegirod (talk) 18:30, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

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RE:Venom img[edit]

I don't know what license it should be. My suggestion is to read up on the types of free licenses and then put the correct one on the image. You might want to ask the commons people what they think. But, it is probably the other creative commons license. Undead Warrior (talk) 21:21, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

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Hello, see Talk page for the image. Hervegirod (talk) 01:49, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
  • Thanks for changing the licensing on the source. As for the rest - as a photographer I 100% understand the reason you would not want to allow commercial use. I have tried to gather some sort of consensus for making the uploading policy's more user friendly in regards to photographers. Please feel free to add your input at Image use grey areas, confusion, and Photographer rights. It takes a while to deal with Policy issues so it has been rather quiet in there. I feel the overall consensus is that unless we want to give away our work than "no thanks". On the other hand, as long as the image has been previously published and meets the Non-Free content policy we can upload images under fair use. But that is sort of a catch 22 because the first thing it says is "Non-free content is used only where no free equivalent is available, or could be created, that would serve the same encyclopedic purpose." which, in many cases, means unless the band is broken up, the subject of the image is dead or it is a publicity shot from 30 or more years ago it would not meet the first requirement. Thanks. Soundvisions1 (talk) 02:29, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

RE: Insulted by a user[edit]

No problem, I'm not an admin just yet, just a highly active editor. Barneca has made some excellent points over at the talk page, I suggest you take mine and his advice and try and cool down a bit. I know he has reacted aggressively towards you and threw your accusations your way, but this is a common reaction when someone is consistently opposing your view. One-off comments aren't necessarily viewed as incivil, more annoyance, and I suggest you give him a second chance and try and form some sort of mutual agreement. Falling out here helps no one. Kind regards and happy editing. —Cyclonenim (talk · contribs · email) 22:47, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Hello, I replied on the admin board. Again, and even if I'm not prepare to accept being insulted like he did (he still has not finished), I appreciate that you try to help !! Also apparently it's not his first time (see User_talk:Jimmi_Hugh#Civility_2). Hervegirod (talk) 23:42, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
I have also replied once again at ANI. However, you must try to be less offended at simple comments to your replies. When you insult a users contributions, you're likely to get strong, defensive language in return. You need to determine the difference to these comments, and to personal attacks. The latter things you have posted to ANI do not appear to be intended as offensive, but are rather comments on your replies. That said, some things were offensive and personal attacks at you. No one will take action on Jimmi in this case, as it's not very clear-cut as to his intentions. I have written some provisions down at ANI for you two to review. If you can agree on these terms, maybe you can all move on from this. —Cyclonenim (talk · contribs · email) 11:54, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
Let's not reversed what happened ;) I did not insulted his contributions,while he did insult me personally. Again I'm not prepared to step back and confess I'm the one which started all of this, when it is not the case. Again I recently looked at his records (see his talk page), and it's not the first time he is using such language, and is never prepared to step back and recognize his mistake. It's very simple for me, if he write something like: OK I went a (little) too far this time, I'd be perfectly OK to move on, but I don't think he will ever be prepared to ever do that. Hervegirod (talk) 12:18, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
I think you're misinterpreting what I've said, I'm not saying you are responsible, I'm saying there is no one side who can claim the moral high ground. What I am saying is that you need to try and let this go and give him a second chance, rather than trying to throw him further into a cesspit of administrative intervention. If you can let this go, and he can let it go too, then you're on track for making some progress. —Cyclonenim (talk · contribs · email) 12:52, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
sorry if I misinterpreted. But I never called him names like he did, and I can just repeat what I said just before: It's very simple for me, if he write something like: OK I went a (little) too far this time, I'd be perfectly OK to move on (but I don't think he will ever be prepared to ever do that). Hervegirod (talk) 12:56, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
No worries, we'll have to wait and see. He may not explicitly say that he wants to move on, but if we can all just understand each others thoughts and leave it at that, that's good enough for me. —Cyclonenim (talk · contribs · email) 13:07, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
Heh, I'm sure you already see the irony in the fact that you just made a negative assumptious comment about my character, which constitutes another attack upon "me personally"... but moving on from that. Instead of taking the childish method of simply walking way, I felt obliged by the kindness of Cyclonenim to personally inform you of my intention to desist participation in any discussion related to this "incident" (and I use the term lightly considering the somewhat meaningless nature of the actual "incidents"), and with no apology, hope that we can move on, even to the extent that we don't let this get in the way of any possible future discussions on related articles that may or may not come about. - Jimmi Hugh (talk) 03:47, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
Are you willing to say something like OK I went a (little) too far this time, let's move on ? I don't ask for a lot, I even don't ask you to formally say that you apologize. Please note that I've refrained to edit the article at all because I did not want to be engaged in a meaningless edit war. Hervegirod (talk) 15:01, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
With all due respect, Hervegirod, that's essentially what he's just done. Time to let this go. —Cyclonenim (talk · contribs · email) 15:15, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
with no apology => he did not 16:17, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

←(outdenting) I thought you weren't asking for a formal apology? I quote: "I even don't ask you to formally say that you apologize". Please, drop this and move on. It's going no-where and I'd be suprised if Jimmi is still watching this page. This is going to be the last comment I make on the matter, as further discussion is pointless. —Cyclonenim (talk · contribs · email) 18:57, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

The problem is that as he is absolutely sure to be right, I see him continuing to use the same language with other users. Asking me to move on is may be OK with me, but he won't stop this behavior in the future with other users. And I don't think I am the only one which can be upset by this kind of talking. Hervegirod (talk) 19:11, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Who are you to say what Jimmi will do in the future? Unless you're a psychic, you can't say for sure whether he has learnt from this or not. I have given him the advice to try and be more cautious with his language towards people he does not know as he doesn't know how they'll take it, and there is nothing more than can be done than that. I never said you were the only one who is upset by such terminology, I'm sure a lot of people could be, but these people are irrelevent to this discussion. The only two people who count are you and Jimmi, and the latter has chosen to move from this discussion without an apology. Whether you prefer to have an apology or not is kind of irrelevent, since he's gone. Please, try and forget what has happened and continue editing the encyclopaedia, because drawing this out is achiving absolutely nothing. Kind regards and happy editing. —Cyclonenim (talk · contribs · email) 19:25, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

I've replied to your email. Sorry for any misunderstanding. —Cyclonenim (talk · contribs · email) 13:26, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

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