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== H.L. Hunley edits ==

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I recently created a page on Dr. Mark M. Newell who was the official Director of the combined SCIAA NUMA Hunley Search Project that is widely credited with the discovery of the H.L. Hunley in 1995. Dr. Newell is not a business partner, personal friend or even someone I have ever socialized with. I created the page solely because I thought it was important that people understand who Newell is because of the important role he played in that expedition.

As you know, Wikipedia is supposed to be neutral. But, being neutral should not mean one has to ignore facts that help one side more than the other just so that both sides get equal play or equal credit. Equal play and credit may sound neutral but it is just the opposite when it means ignoring facts.

Imagine reporting the recent pet market bombings in Iraq. Some might think to make the coverage neutral one should go into great detail about the religious, historic and political motivation behind the attacks and why the attackers feel they were justified. To stay neutral the reporter might be tempted to leave out the atrocious facts regarding the cruel use and resulting deaths of the two retarded women who were used as walking bombs. But leaving out those facts, might make it look like both sides are equally right or equally wrong, it would not be neutral. Neutrality can be a difficult tightrope to walk and the facts can sometimes make it seem that the writer favors one side over the other, even though it is the facts that favor and not the writer. I think the facts are on my side and I don't mind presenting all in favor and all against.

Please understand, I have tried to be absolutely neutral and I have always been careful to add conflicting claims, even though I don't agree with them. This is a policy I follow even on my own websites, articles and books, where it is certainly not required. Another way that I try to stay neutral is by carefully documenting everything.--HunleyFinder (talk) 17:40, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Lee Spence and Mensa[edit]

Hi there. I don't dispute that Spence is a member of Mensa, but the reference provided doesn't satisfy WP:RS unfortunately. I've referted his including for now, but if you have a source that satisfies the reliable sources policy, please re-add him. The link to the policy is provided above, please have a look. Nobody of Consequence (talk) 20:25, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with File:Honey Fire Mustard web image.jpg[edit]

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JimBobUSA reverted all of my edits to the SS Georgiana page. Since most of my edits had consisted of the addition of straight historical facts and well documented information with citations, my first reaction was that the deletion of everything I had inserted was simple vandalism. Therefore, I reverted it back. However, on retrospect, I realize that (in the section on the importance of the Georgiana wreck site) I had implied criticism of unnamed State officials for their failure to visit and inspect the Georgiana wreck site for over 40 years after granting a salvage license to the site. I agree, that wasn't neutral on my part, so I have removed my implied criticism and stated only the facts involved. I also realized that JimBobUSA might have also objected to the linking of George Trenholm, who was the Georgiana's legal owner, to the fictional Rhett Butler (which was my original research that I first announced back in 1989), so I changed that part too. However, I do mention the connection because the links between Trenholm and Mitchell's fictional character are now well established and are mentioned in a number of more recent books by other historians, I will seek those books out and include references to them as well. Although I have been the compiler of much of the information on the Georgiana, virtually all of the information I have included about her is taken directly from contemporary newspaper articles, government documents, etc. and is not my "original work" in the sense that I did not create it or develop a theory from it, I merely repeated it. I plan to add citations to the original documents, so the source of the information will be clear. I hope my changes and efforts to cooperate are acceptable to everyone. People are welcome to call me at 843 532-8222 to discuss any questions or objections. They may also email me at Sincerely, Lee HunleyFinder (talk) 16:19, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

File permission problem with File:Sidescan image of wreck of SS Osama.jpg[edit]

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File:Sidescan image of wreck of SS Osama.jpg missing description details[edit]

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Nomination of Pano Kroko for deletion[edit]

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