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GrandCru

I saw your comment on AIAV; do you think a block is in order? -- Essjay · Talk 17:40, July 21, 2005 (UTC)

I think a block would be in order. — Ilγαηερ (Tαlκ) 17:44, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

That's all I needed to hear. (You know, I'm still new to the block button, I don't want to make mistakes.) -- Essjay · Talk 17:47, July 21, 2005 (UTC)

Well...if it's a terrible horrible mistake, we can share the blame ;) — Ilγαηερ (Tαlκ) 17:49, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

He's blocked. Good to know I won't be burned at the stake by myself! ; - ) -- Essjay · Talk 17:50, July 21, 2005 (UTC)

Hehe. — Ilγαηερ (Tαlκ) 17:51, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

Test

Edit test. — Ilγαηερ (Tαlκ) 03:39, 24 July 2005 (UTC)

Crud!

I was using your welcoming template, and I suddenly noticed that it had a link to YOUR talk page! Do you think I can modify it and use it myself? Link 03:41, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

Well...if you copy the template into your own user namespace (Like User:Linkofazeroth/Wel), and just edit the link to point to your talk page then it'll work :D. — Ilγαηερ (Tαlκ) 04:14, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

Exactly what I did! Link

Trumpet

Ooo if you have braces that might take a lot of the fun away. Trust me when I got braces(get em off next Feb) the inside of my lips started bleeding almost everytime i played and it wasnt pleasant. One of the reasons why i switched to guitar. Jobe6 01:46, July 27, 2005 (UTC)

See...I play trumpet, guitar, and t. sax so I'd have something to move to :D (and trumpet is my new instrument). Well I have no braces, but I have friends who have braces. — Ilγαηερ (Tαlκ) 02:18, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

Cool cause some person wants to delete these Category:User instruments because he thinks its useless. You might wanna add Template:User trumpet-1 to your user page.

Aah! Too many templates now....I'll figure them out later lol. — Ilγαηερ (Tαlκ) 02:59, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

Thank you  :)

Hi Ilyanep, thank you for welcoming me! --Noosfractal 23:47, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

No problem! Have fun on wikipedia :D — Ilγαηερ (Tαlκ) 00:19, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

User:Who/RFAC

Hi, thanks for the URL fix. I don't think it would be too long either, the comments get rather lengthy, and having headings to goto to vote, would be much quicker. ∞Who?¿? 00:43, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

Sandbox gnome

Hola llyanep!! Que tal? Todo pasa bien? Escribes en el wikipedia espanyol todavia?

Could I ask your advice?

This may or may not refer to wikipedia but your metaphorical home as well.

Let us say a kid wants to play in sandbox but is polite and does not break any rules. I expect the kid to grow up eventually in the mean time, he spends his time in almost entirely in the Sandbox.

However he went to far and accidentally destroyed part of it. He doesn't contribute anything though and so the anti-fun bullies (trolls) totally ban him forever from the premises. Is this Ok? Could I ask your comment?

Please unban User:DrZoidberg.

Best regards ,

--Jondel 00:50, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

Already registered

You sent me a message about registering... I'm 66.66.84.something. Just wanted to tell you I was already registered, but didn't bother signing in unless I needed to upload an image. I didn't realize the benefits of actually being signed in.

Oh, well it's a lot easier to indentify people when they're signed in :D. Have fun on wikipedia. — Ilγαηερ (Tαlκ) 18:48, 2 August 2005 (UTC)

Neutral Wikipedia?

Dear Wikipedia administrator

I am writting you about the issue of Macedonia, Republic of Macedonia, Macedonian Slavs (like Wikipedia calls the Macedonians) and the problem between Macedonia and Greece about the term Macedonia. I am aware that this issue is largely discussed here, at Wikipedia, and Wikipedia claims that it is trying to take a neutral side. But, that is not the case. Wikipedia is everything except neutral in this question. In the following lines I will explain you why.

From the text in Wikipedia most of the people will conclude that Macedonian nation appeared during the World War 2 and Tito was the one who 'invented' us. The family of my wife (she is Mexican) read this and asked me is it truth. That was actually the first time I read what Wikipedia says about my nation, which was a direct reason for my reaction. My grandfather is born in 1911th. Yesterday I had a talk with him. He took a part in the strugle for independence since 1925th and he took a part in the 2nd world war. He is alive and personal prove that Wikipedia is full of bullshit and lies about our origin. He spent half of his life proving and fighting for that. He was shot 3 times, all 3 from the Bulgarians who wanted to ocupy Macedonia in the Balkan wars and in the WW1 and WW2. Just a 1 min with him will show you how many lies you suport in Wikipedia.

I tried to edit some of the text few days ago, but everithing I wrote was deleted. And all I wrote were facts. Fact 1. Macedonians (or Macedonian Slavs, like ONLY Wikipedia, Greece and Cyprus calls us) is the only nation of many living in the area concentrated inside the borders of the geographical region of Macedonia. This is a pure fact, something that you can even find on the CIA web page. Can you give any fact to deny my fact? If you can not, why you erased it from Wikipedia? Fact 2. Republic of Macedonia has diplomatic relations with about 150 countries in the world. Wikipedia says that "at least 20" countries recognize Macedonia under the name Macedonia. Guess what? That number is more than 100. And this is an officially confirmed by our ministery for foreighn affairs. Fact 3. Wikipedia says that my country Contraversialy calls itself Republic of Macedonia. This is a pure example of taking a side in the problem. Why you don't say that Greece contraversialy deny us the use of the name Macedonia? If you intended to be neutral, just write that we have the naming problem with Greece, but do not call my name "contraversial"!!! Fact 4. While explaining about the antient Macedonia, its kings etc. you highly support the claim for their Greek origin. I can give you 1000s of facts that that is not truth and I beleive that some Greek guy can give you 1000s facts that those claims are truth. That was 2400 years ago and there is no chanse for us to know the real situation. We can only guess. But, when you give the Greek suported version, why you ignore the version suported by the newaged Macedonians? In this moment I can give you 10 names of internationally respected scientist supporting our theory. If you are neutral, why you ignore it? Fact 5. Wikipedia says that the Turkish Empire were calling us Bulgarians. Strange, because the Turks were recognizing the uniqueness of our nation since the moment they occupied the teritory of Macedonia. Actually, the Turkish history archives are the biggest prove of our existance, history and culture. Did anyone of you ever read anything from those archives? Even on the birth certificate of Khemal Ataturk says that he is born in Bitola, Macedonia. And his autobiography is full of memories of his childhood spend with the Macedonians. Fact 6. Wikipedia ignores the egsodus of the Macedonian people from Greece and says they were running because they were supporters of the comunists. 1/3 of the Macedonians have origin from this part of Macedonia. They were runned away from there by force and you can find many historical proves for that. Again, big part of my family has origin from there. As a matter of fact, my grand-grand father was married to a Greek woman, my grand-grand mother. But, no matter of that, his house was burned and he was forced to run away for his life and the life of his family. How dare you deny this? Do you know that even today my grand father is not allowed to visit Greece, because he was a kid when his family runned away from there? Fact 7. There are about 500 000 Macedonians that live outside Macedonia, mostly in Canada, Australia, USA, Sweden etc. At least 1/3 moved there before 1930s. If we were a product of Tito, how can you explain that even they feel of Macedonian nationality? I have a family in USA which moved there in 1927th. Their ancestors (my cousins) do not even know how to talk Macedonian well. But, they still feel Macedonian. One of them is even one of the financiers of the party of the Macedonians in Bulgaria, trying to help their strugle to keep their national identity. I repeat, first time he visited Macedonia was in 1995th, far after Tito. And his family moved in USA in 1927th, far before Tito. Fact 8. Wikipedia claims that the book of Macedonian songs by Dimitar Miladinov is actually Bulgarian. Have you maybe seen a original copy of the book, printed in Croatia? IT says clearly "Macedonian". Not to mention that the same author wrote one of the most important books in the Macedonian history "For the Macedonian issues", again printed in Croatia, where it clearly talks about the Macedonian nation and non-Bulgarian origin.

All this was simply erased from the database. I didn't erase anything when editing these pages, I support the other side and I do not want to hide their facts. But why Wikipedia wants to hide our facts, which show that we are not a product of Tito's ambitions for the Aegean Sea. In Tito's time, the Yugoslav army was far superior in the region. If he wanted the Aegean Sea, he would get it very easily.

Many things in Wikipedia are very offensive for the nowdays Macedonians. Wikipedia simply ignores us, gives us a new name and supports the theories of denial of our existance, culture and history.

I will try to give you an example that includes with Mexico. I beleive that you know that the Maya civilisation was invaded by the Spanish kingdom. Spanish were ruling Mexico for centuries and millions of Spanish people moved at Mexican teritory. Later, after the liberation war, Mexicans formed its own country. Fact 1. Mayas were living in Mexico (same as Antique Macedonians). Fact 2. Spanish invaded them and great number of Spanish people moved to Mexico (The Slavs moved on the theritory of Macedonia and there was no reported fights or movements of people away from the teritory where the Slavs settled). Fact 3. Nowdays, everyone of the Mexican is aware that they are partly Spanish, but they still have Mayan origin (Wikipedia says that the people living in Republic of Macedonia are Slavs. When there was no reported resetling of the Antique Macedonians, how is possible they not to mix with the Slavs? It is a fact that the nowdays Macedonians are not same as the Antique Macedonians, but they certanly have a significant part of their genes. Same as I beleive that Greece has a part of their Genes, but they are definitly not their direct ancestors). Fact 4. Mexican speak Spanish. Reason: The Spanish culture was superior in that time. (The Antique Macedonians accepted the Helenic culture, including a variation of the Greek language. Reason: the Helenic culture was superior in that time. Everyone who knows at least little history will know that Hellenic and Greek are not synonims. Greek is nation, Hellenic is religion/culture. USA and England both speak English, both are mostly cristians, but they are SEPARATE nations. Aren't they? Same happens to Germany and Austria, or Serbia and Croatia, or Canada and France, or Brazil and Portugal, or the rest of Latin America and Spain)

And here is a comment about the claims of the Bulgarians, that the Macedonians are actually Bulgarians. If that is truth, I am going to kill myself. Bulgarians through the history made the worst for my nation. During the strugle of the Macedonian people for independence from the Turkish empire, at the end of the 19th and begginbing of the 20th century, the Bulgarians were the ones who killed the most of our revolutionaries, including 4 members of my close family which were members of the Macedonian revolutionary organization (VMRO). Whis is not something that I was told by Tito. My grandfather (the same grandfather from above) was in fact a member of the same organization. He personaly knew many of the revolutioners that Bulgarians claim are theirs, including 2 of the leaders: Goce Delcev and Gorce Petrov. They were Macedonians and they all gave their lives for free and independent Macedonia and they had nothing to do with Bulgaria. There was a part of them who were Bulgarians inserted in the organizations, who were actually the killers of the real Macedonian revolutioners, because it was in Bulgarian interest to weaken the organization, so they could take the lead in the organization and later put Macedonia in the hands of the Bulgarians. Thanks god, they did not succeed. Wikipedia claims that VMRO was pro-Bulgarian and the revolutioners were Bulgarian fighters. You suposed to see the face of my 94 year old grandfather when I told him your claims. Neurtal Wikipedia? I do not think so.

At the end I have to ask for Wikipedia NOT TO TAKE A SIDE IN THIS. I am not asking to remove the Greek and Bulgarian side of the story. But, why you ignore our claims, which are suported by many non-Greek and non-Bulgarian scientists and very largely through the web. There are just about 2-2.5 million Macedonians around the world. We do not have enought influence and strenght as Greece has, which is much more powerful and richer country than Macedonia. The Macedonian-Greek question is too hard and too complicated to solve. History can be interpreted in 1000 ways, especially on a teritory like the Balcany, where there are so many nations on so little space. Fortunately, DNA testings are getting more and more reliable and soon it will be possible to be used to acuratelly show the origin of our nations. I hope that then the denyal of me, my history, culture and existance will finaly stop. It is very disapointing that Wikipedia takes a part in all that.

With all the respect, Igor Šterbinski Skopje, Macedonia is@on.net.mk

I have replied to your e-mails. — Ilγαηερ (Tαlκ) 03:28, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

RFA -Muchas gracias

Muchas gracias. Gratias ago pro sufragiam tiuam. Thank you for your vote of confidence.--Jondel 09:47, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

Lol you lost me until I noticed the english [ahh summer]. No problem, I honestly thought you were already an admin. — Ilγαηερ (Tαlκ) 12:46, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

Generation Y

The Generation Y article and title are offensive. As a millenial you should do something about it. -The Masked Millenial

The title is fine, but I think that as with Generation X there oughtta be an NPOV statement plastered there. — Ilγαηερ (Tαlκ) 13:37, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

THANK YOU!

Ilya, I can't tell you how good it is to hear from you. I also can't begin to thank you enough for the vote of confidence, your support and your friendship. PLEASE don't be a stranger. No fun 'round here without you!! - Lucky 6.9 07:29, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for that kind note. You really do deserve to be an admin after all that work you did with the people who made all the worthless substubs ;). It's definately a lot more fun around here with you as well, hope you stay on wikipedia :D — Ilγαηερ (Tαlκ) 16:25, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

account

Okay, I made one. EDsmilde

In that case, welcome to Wikipedia and have fun! — Ilγαηερ (Tαlκ) 16:23, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

Late Reply

Como estas? Porque sabes espanyol? Es muy tarde para ser bibliotecario (Administrator) pero es que me gustaria escribir articulos mas. I wanted to write more and not administer. I had a few disputes and almost wanted to leave. Well so I'm an administrator! Life is still the same. I still fart the same way. Food doesn't taste anybetter.BTW I thought you knew latin, that's why I wrote gratias ago (thank you) . I wish I knew Ukranian and Russian. --Jondel 02:08, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

I don't know ukranian, and I'm only learning latin roots, so I can figure it out occasionally. Congrats on becoming an admin. Sé espanol porque yo estoy aprendiendo espanol en la escuela. — Ilγαηερ (Tαlκ) 03:58, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

AIV

80.3.32.0/24 is vandalizing Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard. Suggest a ban on that range for 24 hours. — Ilγαηερ (Tαlκ) 01:16, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

The user also uses the NTLI proxies, so unless it gets so bad it becomes necessary to block large parts of NTLI, let's wait it out a bit ok? With any luck they've already gotten bored. I'll keep an eye on WP:AN. --fvw* 01:41, August 17, 2005 (UTC)

Ok, that's why I listed it on AIV instead of just going ahead and doing it. — Ilγαηερ (Tαlκ) 02:10, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

What's up?

Hey, just got your message. What's happening? Warmest regards --Neutrality^talk 02:42, August 17, 2005 (UTC)

Not much is happening, just browsed by a message of yours in old talk archives and decided to leave a note. — Ilγαηερ (Tαlκ) 03:20, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

Ow

I have a bad blister on one of my toes and there's more cross-country tomorrow. At least I have my new running shoes. — Ilγαηερ (Tαlκ) 01:41, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

You whiner...go run 30 miles!!!— Ilγαηερ (Tαlκ) 01:42, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

MSN Messenger

Hi, Ilya! Drop me an e-mail and I'll see if I can hook you up. - Lucky 6.9 22:16, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

IP Check

Hi there. Your name was given to me by Lucky 6.9. I recently spotted what I have great suspicion to be a couple of sockpuppets from a disruptive user. Hortio86 created a couple of articles Sigmund Hardy and Riparian State of the Colorado which have absolutely no basis in fact. I warned him of this and put the two articles up for VFD. It later came to my attention that he added references to RSC to a couple of other pages; I removed them. He put them back, as well as removed a couple of my VFD taggings. I reported him at WP:VIP and he was briefly blocked. During that time, he created User:YumaKid to stick up for himself on VFD pages. It later came to my attention that he's been doing the same thing (but with edits) with User:ViteroHoratio.

To fully confirm these suspicions, it's necessary to check and see if the IP addresses for these three users match. I was informed that only Bureaucrats have the power to do that. Therefore, I'd appreciate it if you would review the contribs of those users and, if you feel that I'm right, run a check on their IPs. Thanks! Soltak 20:25, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

I'm afraid I can't do that, it has simply been proposed to be able to read IP addresses for us, but unless I've really missed something, the functionality has not been added yet. Sorry. — Ilγαηερ (Tαlκ) 21:04, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

Well, that's certainly a proposal that I'd be willing to support. Is there any other course of action to "prove" the sockpuppets? (The user sort of admitted to the use of sockpuppets here. In any event, thanks for responding. Soltak 21:35, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

I don't know. Maybe a steward might be able to help you, otherwise it'd have to be a dev. — Ilγαηερ (Tαlκ) 22:26, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

Band camp

Hello! By "wikify" I meant (in part) adding a category and a stub. I can do it myself, but someone who knows more about it would be more likely to get it right. As for the film reference — I'd never heard of band camp, and I've never seen American Pie, but I suspect that most people (outside the U.S., at least, and probably many in it) do know about band camps only via the film. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 08:18, 20 August 2005 (UTC)

NowCommons

If you do decide to undertake the (thankless) NowCommons deletion, make sure to check that the proper attribution and image page have both been copied to commons correctly. I did a few but got so annoyed at the poor compliance (which risks making the commons image a copyvio, by breaking the GFDL's attribution clause) that I quit before "bad Finlay" had words with the offenders. -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 20:32, August 21, 2005 (UTC)

I think I'll just wait then for the 'special tool' Dragon's flight mentioned on WP:AN. — Ilγαηερ (Tαlκ) 20:33, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks alot for the complements. I completly understand why I was rejected for administratorship. Before I didn't know how much experince was required. You have done some good wiking yourself! Thanks again. Bancroftian 22 August 2005, 1:30 (UTC)

Thanks. Hope to see you around. — Ilγαηερ (Tαlκ) 01:12, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

holidays

Cool, I was thinking of messaging you just two days back on this. The festival season has begun here, (Aug-Nov) and I can contribute a bit on each festival. Just let me know what has to be done. =Nichalp «Talk»= 05:45, August 22, 2005 (UTC)

I looked at my userpage and remembered it. As to the articles, we probably need to build consensus on the structure of them at the wikiproject (it seems pretty good as it stands, however) and then see if we can change the articles accordingly. Also, you may want to consider adding the infobox to the articles. Happy festival-ing :D — Ilγαηερ (Tαlκ) 13:38, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

Is this only for holidays? Should we also include festival observances that aren't a public holiday. I don't know if this is an international phenomena, but here in India we have what is known as a Bank Holiday, where banks are closed but it is a normal working day elsewhere. =Nichalp «Talk»= 17:58, August 22, 2005 (UTC)

I guess we could expand it to public observances, as they are sort of a holiday. — Ilγαηερ (Tαlκ) 03:08, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

Janmashtami is coming up on Fri/Sat, any suggestions? PS I don't like the infobox colours. Black text on dark blue is hard to read. =Nichalp «Talk»= 13:38, August 25, 2005 (UTC)

Try organizing it a little, and adding a history section. Also, you can change the color of the infobox. You should do the subst: thing and change the colors to match the country it's celebrated in, etc. — Ilγαηερ (Tαlκ) 20:16, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

All day RfA

No, not quite. :) It's just a matter of when I'm awake and on the computer. Since its my work, that's often, and I sleep at odd times. But you've been doing well lately too! Cheers, Cecropia | explains it all ® 16:01, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

Thanks. Unfortunately, I don't have the luxury of sleeping at odd times (of course I do love to sleep from 2 AM-12 PM) as school starts tomorrow! I've made it a point to browse the RfA pages lately, do some RC patrolling (CDVF), and work with some cleanup-needy articles. Hope to see you around. — Ilγαηερ (Tαlκ) 16:26, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for cleaning Kamma

Hey Ilyanep, thanks a bunch for cleaning the HTML crap from Kamma --Vyzasatya 20:23, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

No problem, I had nothing to do and it sounded like fun to clean up :D Besides, I saw it on WP:CT. — Ilγαηερ (Tαlκ) 03:14, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

HappyCamper's RFA - Thanks for your support! :-)

Hi Ilyanep! Thanks for your support on my recent RFA! I'm now an administrator and I really appreciated your positive comments during the vote. In the future I hope we get a chance to edit some articles together, and if you ever need an extra hand, please feel free to leave me a message! Thanks again for your support, and I'll see you around the Wiki! --HappyCamper 02:31, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

No problem, you deserve it. I hope to see you around more often now. Cheers. — Ilγαηερ (Tαlκ) 02:54, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

Category:Millennial Wikipedians

Category:Millennial Wikipedians has been listed on categories for deletion. Since you are using it on your user page please weigh in on the vote and that of the other generational categories here. Thanks. -JCarriker 20:16, August 26, 2005 (UTC)

Forging?

User:Mike Garcia might have forged your signature here. I had looked thru the history and i couldnt find anywhere else you wrote this. You might wanna check it out. Jobe6 21:18, August 27, 2005 (UTC)

I faintly recall writing that a very long time ago. Besides, I'm not sure why he'd want to forge it in that case. Thanks for the warning, however. Cheers — Ilγαηερ (Tαlκ) 00:47, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

Cool it just looked a bit suspicious due to Michael's history. Jobe6 03:25, August 28, 2005 (UTC)

No problem. Again, thanks for the warning. — Ilγαηερ (Tαlκ) 03:52, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

Who are they ??????

Hello Ilyanep, Im Moe Epsilon. I have contacted you about a mysterious message. It involves you in someway. This matter started when I recived a mysterious message on my talk page, I have since archived it. Click here to read it. It was written by I sterbinski which apparently is an alias for these 7 people named Aleksandar, Biljana, Asparuh, Christos, Valjon, Michael and Ana Luiza. This next part is wierd so bear with me.

After reading this message I tried to find out who these people were and why they had contacted me. I tried www.google.com and typed in thier names to no results. The next thing I googled was "I sterbinski" which brought up the results for the full name "Igor Šterbinski". It was linked to your talk page. That is why I have contacted you. I belive in your previous messages, message #9, you have talked to them. Do you know any possible information as to why they have contacted me. Please respond.

— Moe ε

PS. He (I sterbinski) was also in contact with other random people, I was almost one the last people they came in contact with. The last being Toby Bartels. Click here to see the users and other places they contacted with the same wierd message.

— Moe ε

Jtkiefer's RFA

Thanks for your support on my RFA. Jtkiefer ^{T | @ | C} ----- 05:17, August 30, 2005 (UTC)

Krishna Janmashtami

I've added some photos to the Janmashtami page. I'm a bit hesistant to use the infobox, as I'm trying to work out an autotemplate (like the ones used for the country infoboxes). Till then I won't use the infobox. The next festival is Ganesh Chaturti, (7 Sep), I'll be able to get images only ten days later though. Regards, =Nichalp «Talk»= 05:38, August 30, 2005 (UTC)

Renaming users

You can find instructions for renaming users on the Wikipedia:Bureaucrats page. If you have any queries, don't hesitate to ask me - but you can't go far wrong, so long as you follow the instructions. Warofdreams 12:44, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

Okay...I'll try a few, but like I said I'm afraid of messing up ;) — Ilγαηερ (Tαlκ) 22:08, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

Poke

Hello. I just want to say that I think it is great when young people get involved in serious projects early in life. For the record, this edit summary is what piqued my curiousity and led me to realize we have a 13-year-old burueacrat. Neat.

As someone that decided high school was too much bother and went to college at 16, it is nice to see that the next generation is also doing more than hanging out in malls and listening to loud music.

Cheers. Dragons flight 23:32, August 30, 2005 (UTC)

Chicago meetup

Ilyanep - I replied to your comment on Jimbo's talk page, but I figured I should repeat it here in case you didn't notice: a few Chicagoans (and temporary ones like myself) have expressed interest in a meetup (see User talk:Kelly Martin#Chicago meetup). I could probably secure a conference room or somesuch at the U of Chicago if the need arose. — Dan | Talk 03:32, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

Okeydoke...will go read your reply there, and I posted a message on Kelly Martin's page. — Ilγαηερ (Tαlκ) 00:16, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

Definately interested here. Karynn was discussing a meetup with me, so you might wanna poke him/her :D — Ilγαηερ (Tαlκ) 00:15, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

In case you hadn't noticed, I'm karynn on IRC. :) Kelly Martin 01:04, September 1, 2005 (UTC)

Oh, that's you? Whoops :D — Ilγαηερ (Tαlκ) 22:24, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Bureaucrats' noticeboard

Ilyanep, I have created a new project page at Wikipedia:Bureaucrats' noticeboard, and Secretondon suggested that I tell my fellow bureaucrats about it. It's designed as a forum where users with bureaucrat rights can discuss difficult situations, either beforehand (for advice about what to do) or after taking action (for review and feedback). It's similar to another page I created, which is starting to catch on (e.g., Jimbo used it this August): Wikipedia:account suspensions, which is not for 3RR or simple vandalism but for close calls and disputed blocks.

Please take a look at these new project pages and give some feedback. Good idea? Bad? Needs improvement? --Uncle Ed 12:26, September 1, 2005 (UTC)

Sounds like a good idea, but I would reformat BN into a more efficient format. Otherwise...nice! — Ilγαηερ (Tαlκ) 22:26, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

Holiday infobox

Here are some of the fields I've thought of for the infobox:

• holiday_name
• native_name (in local script)
• holiday_symbol
• celebrated_by
• meaning
• begins
• ends
• date(s) in {{current year}}

I think the infoboxes will have to be a standard colour for the sake of uniformity. Let me know. =Nichalp «Talk»= 17:56, September 2, 2005 (UTC)

I like the idea of different colors, like red white and blue for 4th of July, but I really like the easily changable fields. — Ilγαηερ (Tαlκ) 23:40, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

Sorry, but I didn't get what you meant my the above on the changable fields. =Nichalp «Talk»= 04:25, September 3, 2005 (UTC)

I meant stuff like adding {{{holiday_name}}} into the infobox instead of having to use subst: Sorry if I was not clear. I'm pretty sure this is what you want to do. Another field I'd add, however, is {{{color}}} — Ilγαηερ (Tαlκ) 13:45, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

Yeah I meant that, glad to be thinking on the same terms. I agree that using the national/religious colours would be nice, what about those that don't fit in: such as Guy Fawkes Day or May Day, or holidays of birth of leaders? While we can use green and red for christmas, what about Easter or a feast of a saint? There are too many issues and I don't think we can get a consistent result if we use too many colour combinations. PS For 4th of July the US flag can be displayed. =Nichalp «Talk»= 14:48, September 3, 2005 (UTC)

Perhaps a standard color for when no colors can be chosen? — Ilγαηερ (Tαlκ) 15:35, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

Personally, I think having a single colour would solve our headaches, afterall this infobox has to be simple, so say a person in Armenia can add the details accordingly without deliberating on the appropritate color combi.
As for religions concerned, the colours I know of are: Hinduism = saffron, Islam = green, Judaism = blue, Sikhism = yellow, Jainism = white. I have no idea as to what the other colours can be used to represent Christianity (white?), Buddhism (red?), Confucism?, Taoism, Zorastranism, Rasfatarism etc. etc.?

PS as far as you XHTM queries are concerned, IME (E=experience) XHTML pages load a lot faster over narrowband. :) =Nichalp «Talk»= 17:41, September 3, 2005 (UTC)

Ah, well I don't have to worry about that, because I have so much flash content that it'll take an hour for anyone over narrowband to load it ;) — Ilγαηερ (Tαlκ) 17:43, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

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