User talk:Lizstrange

Welcome![edit]

Hello, Lizstrange, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one or more of the pages you created, such as Liz Strange, may not conform to some of Wikipedia's guidelines, and may not be retained.

There's a page about creating articles you may want to read called Your first article. If you are stuck, and looking for help, please come to the New contributors' help page, where experienced Wikipedians can answer any queries you have! Or, you can just type {{helpme}} on this page, followed by your question, and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Here are a few other good links for newcomers:

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Proposed deletion of Liz Strange[edit]

The article Liz Strange has been proposed for deletion because it appears to have no references. Under Wikipedia policy, this newly created biography of a living person will be deleted unless it has at least one reference to a reliable source that directly supports material in the article.

If you created the article, please don't be offended. Instead, consider improving the article. For help on inserting references, see Referencing for beginners, or ask at the help desk. Once you have provided at least one reliable source, you may remove the {{prod blp}} tag. Please do not remove the tag unless the article is sourced. If you cannot provide such a source within ten days, the article may be deleted, but you can request that it be undeleted when you are ready to add one. Electric Catfish (talk) 14:33, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

September 2012[edit]

Welcome to Wikipedia. I noticed that your username, "Lizstrange", may not meet Wikipedia's username policy because it promotes a person. If you believe that your username does not violate our policy, please leave a note here explaining why. As an alternative, you may ask for a change of username, or you may simply create a new account for editing. Thank you. Electric Catfish (talk) 14:34, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

There is no problem with your username, provided that you are not impersonating someone well-known, and I do not think that is the case. There are pros and cons to do with using your own name as a Wikipedia username - see WP:REALNAME. If you wish to change username, you can do that at WP:CHU.

I do need to advise you, though, that Wikipedia is not a "noticeboard" site like Myspace or Facebook where people write about themselves. It is a different sort of site, a project to build an encyclopedia, and writing about oneself is strongly discouraged, for reasons explained at Wikipedia is not about YOU and Wikipedia:Autobiography. Wikipedia articles are not owned by anyone, least of all their subject, and it is not unkown for people who write about themselves to encounter Wikipedia's Law of Unintended Consequences. The links at the top of this page will tell you more about Wikipedia and how you can contribute. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 15:26, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

So someone else would have to submit information about me to appear here? If they are not comuter savvy can they provide the info and have a wikipedia member enter it?

Please advise

Reply[edit]

Hi, I deleted your recent article because it did not provide independent verifiable sources to enable us to verify the facts and show that it meets the notability guidelines. It is now Wikipedia policy that biographical articles about living people must have independent verifiable references. As a matter of policy, all biographies of living people will be deleted if they do not have references. I couldn't see that there was any claim of notability, as defined, above in the article, just that you were a writer and had written some books which do not appear to be notable enough to be linked to their own articles. Although you had references, one was a spam link to Amazon, and the others didn't appear to me to meet the sources criteria above. Note that you cannot inherit notability because you had a notable grandfather either.

You have an obvious conflict of interest when it comes to editing articles about yourself. Thank you for declaring your interest. If, after reading the information about notability linked above, you still believe that you are notable enough for a Wikipedia article (and that there is significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources), you could, if you wish, post a request at Wikipedia:Requested articles for the article to be created. See also Wikipedia:Best practices for editors with conflicts of interest.

Hope this clarifies Jimfbleak - talk to me? 19:47, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

more[edit]

Hi, you can sign your comments automatically using four tildes ~~~~.

Your article actually make no claim of notability, as defined in the notability guidelines. All your text says is that you have written some books which don't appear to be linked to Wikipedia articles, so presumably don't meet book notability guidelines. Nothing about sales, awards etc. It's not enough just to be a published writer, you need to show that you meet the criteria. For all the article says, each book might have sold six copies.

References must be independent of you — not editable by you, or reporting your words (except for uncontroversial factual stuff). You need things like newspaper articles, article in subscription magazines etc, and they must give facts an figures to show notability, not just say your books are the best thing since sliced bread. Sales sites like Amazon are never aceptable

Number of published works is not a criterion for notability, on that basis Homer wouldn't make the cut. I deal with your article on its own merits, other authors my have demonstrated notability or just slipped through the net. Also note that I am a member in good standing of SF Canada: http://www.sfcanada.org/index.php/member-list I have also been an attending author and panelist at several conventions. May be true, but just confirms that you are a published author.

Jimfbleak - talk to me? 06:35, 30 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]