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Your submission at Articles for creation: Buyagift (January 25)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Whispering was:

This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.

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Whispering^(t) 13:24, 25 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:Buyagift

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A tag has been placed on Draft:Buyagift, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Buyagift (January 25)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by SamHolt6 was:

This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Buyagift and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you now believe the draft cannot meet Wikipedia's standards or do not wish to progress it further, you may request deletion. Please go to Draft:Buyagift, click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window, add "{{db-self}}" at the top of the draft text and click the blue "publish changes" button to save this edit.
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SamHolt6 (talk) 15:54, 25 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

COI

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Before attempting to write an article again, please make sure that the topic meets the notability criteria linked above, and check that you can find independent third party sources. Also read Your first article. You must also reply to the COI request above Jimfbleak - talk to me? 16:38, 25 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, I've seen that my first draft has been deleted after being tagged for speedy deletion. I made some edits and removed sections and the article was still deleted. I'm not being paid for this just writing about something that I know about. Not trying to make it promotional at all, so would you have any advice on how to avoid this in the future? Also, would web pages like Bloomberg company info (such as https://www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/%5Cprivate/snapshot.asp?privcapId=160210) be counted as a primary source? Thanks MLKinsella (talk) 11:05, 28 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for message on my talk page. If you want me to see messages here, you need to start them with my user name User:Jimfbleak, and sign them in the same edit. You will appreciate that most attempted company articles are written by employees, so the question is bound to be asked. Bloomberg reports are invariably written by the company, so they are of limited use for any but the most uncontroversial facts. Now, Buyagift is probably notable, even I've heard of them, but your article tells us about what they sell, a bit of history, and some totally irrelevant stuff about other subsidiaries of Smart&co S.A.S..

In your infobox you have figures for total assets and number of employees, but it's unsourced and doesn't appear in the text. There are no other financials, like published profits, nor any indication of what the company take-over price was. Basically we have company in Herts... sells stuff... founded by... taken over. Not enough to establish notability, and looks promotional without such evidence.

Have a look at Amazon (company). You don't need that level of detail, but that B-class article should help you decide what is relevant and what references are acceptable. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 16:47, 28 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

User:JimfbleakThanks for your feedback, I'll have another go in sandbox. Would the government site https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk be okay as a reference? Thanks MLKinsella (talk) 10:16, 29 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It's OKK for purely factual stuff like accounts, but the info is submitted by the company, so anything less concrete should be avoided Jimfbleak - talk to me? 12:14, 29 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

user:Jimfbleak Buyagift have various charity partnerships but are only referenced on their site and the charities' sites. Would I be able to use charity sites as a reference? Thanks MLKinsella (talk) 11:50, 4 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, better to use their sites than the company's Jimfbleak - talk to me? 13:22, 4 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

User:jimfbleak Ok thanks - can't find mention of their charity partnerships elsewhere so will use them. Would you mind having a quick glance at draft:buyagift for me? I'm still in the process of editing but any feedback would be appreciated. Thanks, MLKinsella (talk) 13:57, 4 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome!

Hello, MLKinsella, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions.

I noticed that one of the first articles you edited appears to be dealing with a topic with which you may have a conflict of interest. In other words, you may find it difficult to write about that topic in a neutral and objective way, because you are, work for, or represent, the subject of that article. Your recent contributions may have already been undone for this very reason.

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Buyagift (March 7)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Theroadislong was:

This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Buyagift and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you now believe the draft cannot meet Wikipedia's standards or do not wish to progress it further, you may request deletion. Please go to Draft:Buyagift, click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window, add "{{db-self}}" at the top of the draft text and click the blue "publish changes" button to save this edit.
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Theroadislong (talk) 19:42, 7 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Buyagift

Hello, MLKinsella. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Buyagift".

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! JMHamo (talk) 19:06, 13 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]