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Please see Square One Shopping Centre talk page. --Mb1000 19:54, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

The Apprentice 4 Disputes—Open Invitation to resolve disputes[edit]

While I vehemently disagree with both you and regarding about Rebecca's status (Not Hired sounds too Martha-ish, don't you think?), I hereby invite you to openly conclude your views. — Dark Insanity 00:09, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

Live 8 concert, London[edit]

Why did you revert the anonymous user's wikify of U2 on this page? I have reverted this edit back, because there was no reason given. -- 9cds(talk) 16:59, 27 December 2005 (UTC)


====== Couldn't see a way of contacting you, so figured you'd see this edit. What's the best way of editing the baggy section on Madchester to point to this: ?

Dude HOLY CRAP your breath is minty fresh (slang for thanks)--MonkeyCMonkeyDo 00:08, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

Square One Shopping Centre[edit]

User:Mb1000 does not appear to be coping with the situation regarding the article at hand. Perhaps further authority and/or third-parties should be taken into account? The situation has been ongoing for such an unbelievable amount of time. —Hollow Wilerding . . . (talk) 20:59, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

Ramsay's kids[edit]

To be true I don't really know. That information was already there in the article, I just moved stuff around. I did watched the f word but I don't remember anymore. Maybe I will dl the last episode again and check it out. Garion96 (talk) 19:34, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

Just did some searching. See this article, it's four children so I will change it. Tnx for noticing.[1]. Garion96 (talk) 20:14, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

Frome Elitist Indie Head[edit]

I just got your message on my talk page cause I haven't been logging on, I dont know if you have anything to do with this but I've finally been able to change back my skin, keep up the good modding

State flags[edit]

I refer the American state flags from The Amazing Race 8, I added Australian state flags for The Amazing Race 2 and The Amazing Race 4 yesterday. I like to add some American and Australian flags in those articles. - ApprenticeFan - 1/9/2006, 01:19 - UTC

Re: U2 tours[edit]

Thanks. And thanks for adding the tour poster images, they really helped! Wasted Time R 19:58, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Moving pages[edit]

Please don't move pages using copy and paste as it removes the page history. Instead, use the move tab at the top of the article, or if you don't yet have access to that, ask an administrator to move the article. Warofdreams talk 21:44, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

Marriage in Canada[edit]

Your revert was incorrect, and I have reverted it. The warning you posted to was unjustified. Wuzzy 01:42, 12 January 2006 (UTC)


PLEASE STOP removing those categories!! Lil Flip246 23:53, 20 January 2006 (UTC)


Why did you put {{test1}} on User talk:Aleenf1? He did nothing to deserve it. Ashibaka tock 08:13, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

Hi. I notice that you've been using the rollback tool to revert good faith, reasonable changes ([2] [3] and others) Although Wikipedia:Revert does not limit it to vandalism, that is it's intent, and I believe that it is innapropriate to use it in this way. Additionally, {{test}} should absolutely not be used the way you did here. You didn't even {{welcome}} him! It's unnacctable to treat newcomers this way. Please consider your use of the rollback tool and your treatment of new users more carefully in the future.--Sean|Black 08:34, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

Actually, User:Aleenf has added a lot of incorrect (and redundant) information to the Race pages. (User:Falconsgladiator had also been fixing some of his/her edits.) For example, he/she incorrectly stated that a contestant had competed on two editions of the Race. He/she also added redundant details without realizing that they had already been discussed in earlier sections of articles. Aleenf was also highlighting details of a contestant's short height (due to dwarfism), which was completely unecessary and inflammatory (per WP:NPOV. Similar remarks had previously been removed; currently there's no mention saying so-and-so were the heaviest/tallest/ contestants on the Race. A {{test1}} template may seem somewhat harsh, but given the circumstances and erratic edits, it was more than justifable. --Madchester 08:47, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

Okay, so they were crappy edits, but I still think they were in good faith, and that's what you should assume when a new user makes a mistake; that's why test1 refers to tests rather than vandalism. Also, please don't change {{test1}} to {{welcome}} after the fact, that's just rude. Ashibaka tock 09:18, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

Blocking and email[edit]

Would it be possible for you to enable email on your account? I was unable to email you during my block period since Wikipedia stated that you do not have an email address selected. Thanks in advance. Crotalus horridus (TALKCONTRIBS) 05:01, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Incorrect closing of AfD[edit]

You deleted the AfD discussion page [4] instead of deleting the actual article, Panty waste. Be careful! enochlau (talk) 12:14, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

Article Deleted[edit]

Hi, you deleted my article on hip hop references. Granted, most people in the discussion on it voted for deletion. I believe it's worth having an article about to track different trends in hip hop culture and its perceptions of mainstream culture. How could the article be changed to be relevant enough for wikipedia? Danspalding 01:54, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

HK 7-11s[edit]

Well, OK, but using "literally" suggests that at a crossroads/intersection (sorry - don't know which you'd use in Canadian English!) there would be four 7-11s, one on each corner! I think what really irked me about the sentence I removed is the way people use "literally" when they mean "almost"... But if you think the sentiment behind the deleted sentence stands, please do re-word and reinsert! Regards, CLW 15:12, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

P.S. - quite jealous of lots of your "places visited" flags on your user page! CLW 15:13, 3 February 2006 (UTC)


Can I get you to help me with a mediation I'm conducting at Talk:Neuro-linguistic programming? I stepped in with an outside view and was immediately personally attacked. I need some administrator firepower watching my back while I do this. Also, since I'm planning on becoming an administrator once I have more experience on wikipedia, having one watch my first mediation attempt would be helpful knowledge for me. Swatjester 15:14, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

From Aplomado[edit]

Can you explain why you think I am being abusive? Aplomado 05:03, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

Please do not remove comments by other users on your talk page. You've removed Alhutch's welcome message twice for no apparent reason at all. Unless its vandalism, all comments must remain on the talk page. (See WP:TP) Madchester 05:09, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

Adam and andrew[edit]

It was never cleared as to which category it fell into, but seems mainly to fit into WP:WEB. If so:

Content which has been packaged into material form, such as onto CD, DVD or book form, but which is still primarily only available for sale via the internet, still falls under these guidelines. If such packaging of the product is widely available for sale in major brick and mortar retailers, then it should be considered a product, for which see Wikipedia:Notability (companies and corporations).

Therefore at least the CD created by Adam and Andrew is verifiably and notably suitable for Wikipedia, if not everything on the article.

The notability of the Numa numa song, much in the same way, cannot be proved, except that the first host, Newgrounds, falls under notable websites - and even in that case, Adam and Andrews most popular internet resource, Myspace is notable.

—Preceding unsigned comment added by WillFirminger (talkcontribs)

The Numa numa song is verifiable and notable, as evidenced by a full article in the New York Times, a major media publication. --Madchester 17:34, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

Sorry about the Numa numa suggestion, not particularly familiar with the subject, seemed too stupid to warrant any kind of interview to me.

I have, however, found an almost identical group called The Icy Hot Stuntaz, which contains almost exactly the same kind description as I implemented on the Adam and Andrew article, only with less information on them, no album information, less links and a picture.

I cannot believe I am fighting for this article so much, but I am sure I am right in thinking that the method in which my article was weighed up, speedily deleted and considered deletion material by so many people with no adequate reason, was completely unfair.

Will 21:24, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

Super Bowl XL[edit]

Can you please refer me to any POV statements i made on the Super Bowl XL article? 08:26, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

There were too many to count, but here's one example: "despite the fact that Locklear not only grabbed Haggan's face mask but also held the jersey above Haggan's right shoulder for an extended period of time." You kept injecting all these POV statements into the article and I kept having to revert them. Aplomado 23:19, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

My RfA[edit]

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Thank you for your support on my request for adminship. It ultimately succeeded with votes of 52/1/2, so I am now an administrator. Should you have any questions, comments, complaints, or requests at any point in the future, please do not hesitate to let me know on my talk page or via e-mail.
bbatsell ¿? 05:21, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

user warnings[edit]

Hi Madchester, I would just like to bring your attention that you can substitute user warning templates as per Wikipedia:Template substitution. This will reduce the server's workload. You can simply tag user's talk page, for example, with {{subst:test}} instead of {{test}}. Please let me know if you have any questions. Happy Edit! --Hurricane111 19:47, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

Katie Holmes[edit]

Greetings! You have edited the Katie Holmes page in the past. I've completely reworked the article and have posted it on WP:PR in the hopes of advancing it to WP:FAC. I would be grateful for your comments at Wikipedia:Peer review/Katie Holmes/archive1. PedanticallySpeaking 18:48, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Your revert[edit]

The medal table is based upon gold medal dominance. Just because you are bitter doesn't mean you can revert edits to make it less humiliating for you. Haizum 03:04, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Beckie Scott revert[edit]

What are you talking about? I simply added the newer and much nicer looking medals table to the page of my favourite Olympian. Then you slap me with a second level warning? Classy. -- 17:00, 19 February 2006 (UTC

I do apologize for losing my cool a little, however I repectfully disagree with your assertion that you were trying to be helpful in fixing my mistakes. Being helpful, in my opinion, would involve showing me what my mistakes were so that they are not repeated instead of accusing me of vandalism and slapping me with a completely undeserved second level warning. -- 17:17, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Olympic Conventions[edit]

You seem to have some input you want to contribute to the Olympic medals pages! Why don't you go here and debate on what the conventions should be. Thanks. --Jared [T]/[+] 23:51, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

My Rfc[edit]

I noticed that you decided to sign the tired and ineffectual Rfc waged against me. Did you notice the part where the editor states that striking through his comment does not violate policy? Hmn, it looks like someone I know might be wrong. (see below)

he responded with this-which does not violate policy but shows an unwillingness to acknowledge past mistakes

Thanks for drawing my attention to this. Haizum 05:04, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Live 8 Philly.[edit]

Why did you revert my edit about Clair Brothers Audio and Franklin Simon Productions. In case you did not know, Clair Bros. Audio is the largest sound reinforcement company in the world. They have American, European, and Asian offices and their clients include Elton John, The Rolling Stones, Madonna, Bon Jovi, U2, Kayne West, and countless more mega stars. They were not only an important part of Live 8 Philly, but also Live 8 London. For them to recieve no recognition for this historic event would be tragic. Not to mention, Franklin Simon Productions is a special affiliate of Clair Bros Audio and has mixed and managed such events as Woodstock II, several high profile concerts on the eastern seaboard of the US, the annual Bethlehem Musikfest, and Franklin Simon Productions has even supplied audio reinforcement for the former President of the United States, George H W Bush. If you would like to do research on Clair Bros to verify this, simply type in Clair Brothers Audio into google and click ont he first link. If you would like to verify Franklin Simon Productions, simply type in in your search bar and you will be directed to one of the internets largest audio auction and purchase sites which includes a complete biography of Franklin Simon Productions. Without Clair Bros Audio and Franklin Simon Productions, Live 8 Philly would not have been the best Live 8 concert in terms of Sound Quality. This has been verifed and attested to by Pro Sound News Magazine, a magazine that all industry professionals read. If you would like, you can read the article about Live 8 Philly and several more about the dominance of Clair Brothers in the Audio Industry.

Sincerely, A Live 8 Audio Crew Member.

Amazing Race-Roadblocks[edit]

The sentence was not redundant. The article makes it sound like they must find out the exact info by watching the other teams, I put they are allowed to find out the exact info after choosing a person to do it. That isn't stated, so I am reverting it.-TeckWiz

Live 8 Philly[edit]

It is not a vanity or self bio. I am a member of the local Philly Union of teamsters and have no affiliation with either company. I do, however feel that they both deserve recognition for having helped in so great of an event. I cannot believe that you, with your dedication to "making poverty history" are so reluctant to allow the mention of two great companies that helped to make Live 8 Philly and Live 8 London possible. You should be ashamed of yourself. Not to mention the fact that if I had wanted to make the article vain, I would have. It is hardly a self bio as it does not mention Roy or Troy Clair, the founders of Clair Brothers, or Franklin Simon of FSP, as individuals. I am perplexed as to your reasoning in this. Please reconsider, as I have twice petitioned maturely and passionatley for the re-inclusion of this passage in the article. If you wish, you can write it in. I would just like to see these two companies get credit for the hard work that they did to make these great events possible.

WikiProject Albums[edit]

I recently (yesterday) noticed the WikiProject for writing album articles. I have decided that I will help with writing album articles. I would like to "advertise" this through a userbox. I'm not sure what an appropriate picture would be for it, and I feel it would be better if an administrator were to create the userbox. Either doing so yourself or giving me a link to a good picture for it would be highly appreciated.La Pizza11 19:35, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

I have done so. The page is here: Template:user Wikiproject Albums. I have one problem, though. I wanted to make a category of all the users, and I made it here: Category:WikiProject_Albums_members. When I was making a link to the category page on the word "user" in my info are of the userbox, it blanked out the word and read "This user is a of WikiProject Albums". I'm not sure what's up.La Pizza11 23:12, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

TAR 9[edit]

Rather than beat around the bush, let me state plainly... you've had a lot of problems in the past with regards to TAR and other reality pages. You're repeating a pattern of snap reverts with no Talk page discussion. You're even rollbacking other editors. Cool down. If you want to talk about flags, bring it up on the Talk page. -- Netoholic @ 21:57, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

The prior entry asks not to add additional information given the spoilers present. I reverted based upon that. Mhking 02:51, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
I think that point was telling users not to include details on future episodes, if they don't come from a reliable source. --Madchester 15:36, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

So put back the friggin flags but DON'T completely revert multiple changes. God damnn that makes it hard to assume good faith. -- Netoholic @ 17:19, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Re: info on upcoming episodes, it was already discussed that those details are perfectly acceptable, as long as there are verifiable sources. If you happened to review the sources provided for each leg, you'd realize that they're perfectly legitimate pieces of information. The details are no different than future episode sypnoses on other television series articles. The spoiler tags are sufficient in warning readers. --Madchester 17:26, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
The spoiler tags are not "sufficient". By putting the destination (Russia) in the name of the empty section header, you are adding that to the table of contents which appears on the page before anyone can read the spoiler tags. That is inconsiderate of readers that just want to see a re-cap of the aired episode and visit pages we've linked for them in "Leg 1". Please stop. -- Netoholic @ 17:31, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
The spoiler tag above the TOC is insufficient because the TOC is instantly visible when you open the page. Just get rid of the empty leg sections. This will all be moot as soon as the episode airs. Be patient. -- Netoholic @ 21:56, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
Just because it only happened on season 7 doesn't mean it may not happen again. And what if there's a time penalty moving the first place team? Even though the leaderboard may say it, it's still easier to have it said. TeckWiz 21:09, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
Madchester: the reason I wrote out the name of the detour even though the summary (that I made) was there is because on leg 1 there is summary yet it's still written out. TeckWiz 13:22, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
Note that the convention has been to write out the full Detour choices only when one or both of their locations are also wiki-linkable. Notice that the list has an emphasis on the locations visited on each leg; this isn't a leg summary per se. --Madchester 15:01, 11 March 2006 (UTC)


I wanted to let you know that Netoholic has made a 3RR report against you at WP:AN/3RR (towards the bottom under a section titled "Madchester"). You may wish to respond to his accusation and explain your side of things before an admin blocks you. —Locke Coletc 08:52, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Image Tagging[edit]

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Amazing Race Season 1 Links[edit]

Sorry. Consider them gone. Eyeball kid 03:57, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Template:Infobox shopping mall[edit]

Hi, I intented to improve and extend the template:Infobox shopping mall you had created. However, I see that you do not like it. No problem. The articles of the shopping malls in Istanbul require more data, so I create another infobox for use in that articles. I ask you kindly not to revert the related articles in Istanbul. CeeGee 17:55, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

I already reverted your edits and changed the link to another infobox. Please leave them so as they are. I will correct my infobox later on, since the problems are not so fatal. CeeGee 18:07, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
I asked you not to reedit the articles of shopping malls in Istanbul regarding the infobox which is incomplete. You can do it only when you improve and extend it. By doing so, you are deleting valuable info I added. Please stop it! CeeGee 20:15, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
I noticed that you also deleted the infobox shopping center I created. Why? It is not superfluous at this moment as you say. The infobox shopping mall is but insufficient. CeeGee 20:21, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
Would you please tell me what authorize you to delete the template shopping center which is used by some articles? CeeGee 20:35, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
You are very poor, because you can not explain what you are doing. Instead you are using your admin power to cover your incompetence.CeeGee 21:07, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
Well, it doesn't really matter of the address stuff I added. Must we always follow the policies closely, Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information, I always believe in flexibility but not too flexible though. Location is about the same as address so it doesn't make much different. I'm not providing e.g. an address for a cafe in New York City or something like that. I am just stating the exact road of the mall. I added addresses to the text and no one really bothers about it. We may not be a travel guide, but the information is useful for an encyclopaedia. A number of the building articles such as Raffles City include the address. --Terence Ong 14:55, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
Hi. I had asked you many times not to edit the shopping malls in a way that the content is destroyed. However, it seems taht yu do not understand and continue to this. I had reported your doinges for mediation. And, the mediator had recommended you to accept and use the more comprehensive infobx created by me. In order to avoid edit wars with you, I used an inline infobox, which has no link to your infobox. However, I notice that you reverte my edits again. I will repor you to an admin to stop your vandalism. CeeGee 07:26, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Coldplay April Fools Hoax[edit]

Madchester, why do you keep removing and reverting the stuff about the Gaurdian April Fools hoax re. Chris Martin backing the Tories? quercus robur 09:56, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Madchester, you may not agree with my adding of the April fools joke information but that does NOT give you the right to add a vandalism warning to my page, I expect an apology. quercus robur 16:03, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
Madchester, after 2 days I am still awaiting an apology for your placing of a 'vandalism' warning on my talk page. I'm afraid that if you think I am going to let this lie you have miscalculated. quercus robur 16:44, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
Madchester, its interesting that you expect 'civility' to be a one way process. In what way were you behaving with 'civility' when you placed a totally inappropriate 'vandalism' notice on my talk page? In what way were you behaving with 'civility' when you reverted my changes to the Coldplay page in such a high handed manner rather than discussing the issue properly and seeking a workable consesnsus?
Furthermore, how am I 'forcing' an apology from you or 'threatening' you? What could I possibly do that would 'force' you to retract your 'vandalism' allegations? I do however expect an acknowledgement that your 'vandalism' notice was completely inappropriate and insulting to my integrity as a long standing Wikipedia contributor, and unbecomming behaviour for somebody who is so proud of having 'earned' their adminship.
However it seems that you can't find the good grace to admit that you have made a mistake, and we shall have to leave it there. At the end of the day the matter is, as you say, trivial in the bigger scheme of things, and whilst I understand that you are not prepared to lose face over this, I hope that you will stop and think before treating other wikipedia contributors in a such a high-handed and arrogant manner in future.
Best wishes quercus robur 18:32, 13 April 2006 (UTC)


First of all, I didn't blank the page, so your warning was inappropriate.

As always, you can avoid all problems with this sort of thing by CITING A RELIABLE SOURCE in the ARTICLE. Do not link to fansites/forums... link to those press releases or wherever else you got that info. -- Netoholic @ 14:41, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

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