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Happy editing! Capitals00 (talk) 08:44, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

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Hello Diannaa, thank you for helping me for my page. Now, I wrote in my words about the Indian Context of the President's Colours and I hope this would not violate the policy of Wikipedia. Mangalam Agrawal (talk) 03:50, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

The new version looks okay. Thanks for taking the time to do that.— Diannaa (talk) 22:50, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

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Thank You so much.... Mangalam Agrawal (talk) 03:00, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

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Ok, please delete the page as soon as possible. Thank You. Mangalam Agrawal (talk) 04:44, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

February 2021

Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Bajrang Dal, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear to be constructive and has been reverted. If you only meant to make a test edit, please use your sandbox for that. Thank you. — Newslinger talk 11:11, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

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Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to blank out or remove portions of page content, templates, or other materials from Wikipedia without adequate explanation, as you did at Sangh Parivar, you may be blocked from editing. — Newslinger talk 11:13, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

So, please don't dent the image of an organisation without any proven facts and knowledge. Don't spread your communism here. Go anywhere else. Mangalam Agrawal (talk) 11:13, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

You stop your disruptive editing and dent an nationalist organization. Change your mindset you hypocrite. Mangalam Agrawal (talk) 11:16, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

The consensus of high-quality academic sources is that the Bajrang Dal is a militant organisation. Please see Special:Permalink/1007358857 § cite note-militant-1 for the list. Neutrality on Wikipedia entails representing fairly, proportionately, and, as far as possible, without editorial bias, all the significant views that have been published by reliable sources on a topic, and the cited academic sources overwhelmingly agree that militant is an accurate descriptor for the Bajrang Dal. — Newslinger talk 11:17, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

No, not any judge or court had given their decision that this is a militant organisation. If any, then provide the copy of judgement. If someone write a book on you and dent your image without any fact, Will you use it as a reference here? This is hypocrisy. Mangalam Agrawal (talk) 11:20, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

If content from "someone" is published in a high-quality academic source, then yes, it will be included even if it describes a subject negatively. — Newslinger talk 11:26, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Ok then Because of you and Wikipedia truth will never change. Bajrang Dal, RSS and BJP are the nationalist organisations. Congratulations you and Wikipedia for your hypocrisy. At least now, I would never use Wikipedia as an authentic source of information. Mangalam Agrawal (talk) 11:30, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not censored. If the content is reliably sourced, it will be included even if it is negative. — Newslinger talk 11:33, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

I don't want it to be censored as well but a book can't be a reliable source because the claim was not on the base of any court's Judgement, it was just written by the So called Intellectuals with Communist and Anti-Hindu Mindset. Mangalam Agrawal (talk) 11:37, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

You have provided no evidence that the authors of the 18 high-quality academic sources are "So called Intellectuals with Communist and Anti-Hindu Mindset". Your accusation is also a violation of the biographies of living persons policy. High-quality academic sources are among the best sources available on Wikipedia. — Newslinger talk 11:39, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

That's why I am saying that you both and hypocrites. So, what they have to proof that it is a militant organisation. I think they even don't know the meaning of 'militant' and if it is militant then why is not banned currently? Mangalam Agrawal (talk) 11:43, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Here are a few excerpts:

• Valiani, Arafaat A. (November 11, 2011). Militant publics in India: Physical culture and violence in the making of a modern polity. New York, NY: Palgrave Macmillan. p. 180. ISBN 978-0-230-37063-0. Retrieved 17 February 2021 – via Google Books. In 2002, almost 2,000 Muslims were killed in carefully planned attacks by the VHP and the Bajrang Dal. The state was governed by the BJP in 2002, and some BJP representatives brazenly justified and abetted the violence.
• Jerryson, Michael (July 15, 2020). Religious Violence Today: Faith and Conflict in the Modern World. ABC-CLIO. p. 275. ISBN 978-1-4408-5991-5. Retrieved 13 February 2021 – via Google Books. The magazine Tehelka carried out a six-month undercover investigation in 2007 that resulted in video evidence that the riots were organized and supported by Gujarat police and Chief Minister Modi. The video also implicated several members of the Bajrang Dal (a militant Hindu nationalist group) and the BJP (one of India's main political parties).
• Jaffrelot, Christophe (2010). Religion, Caste, and Politics in India. Primus Books. ISBN 9789380607047. Retrieved 17 February 2021 – via Google Books. In May–June, the VHP provided itself with an organization, which assembled young Hindu militants, the Bajrang Dal. Its founder, Vinay Katiyar, had until then been a pracharak of the RSS. However, the Bajrang Dal proved to be less disciplined than the RSS and its violent utterances as well as actions were to precipitate many communal riots.

The cited sources go into much more detail than just the quotes, and you can view the context in the Google Books links. — Newslinger talk 11:47, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

They all are hypocrites. They will never tell you that why the riots were started, what was the immediate reason. First, the Muslim mob from a mosque ran to the Godhra Station and set the Train on fire in which there was Hindu Pilgrims, they all were martyred. And they were not planned riots they were Anger of the people. But they will never told you this. And if the BJP Govt was accused then why President's Rule was not invoked in the State, why Supreme Court not found them Guilty and Why the then CM of Gujarat is the current Prime Minister of India Shri Narendra Modi. That means we all are militants because we vote him. BJP is running government in 18 States/UTs in India and this is not a joke. Mangalam Agrawal (talk) 11:56, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Whether or not you believe the riots to be justified is completely separate from whether the Bajrang Dal is a militant organization. The Militant article currently describes the term as "Militant means vigorously active, combative and/or aggressive, especially in support of a cause, as in 'militant reformers'", and the academic sources have provided enough information to show that the Bajrang Dal fits this description. — Newslinger talk 12:01, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Why it is a separate issue, when your so called Intellectuals justified that Muslim Mob and also tried to dent the image of a popular leader. Hypocrites. As I said you and Wikipedia don't need facts but you are turning into a propoganda machine for Left and Communists. Congratulations you your hypocrite academicians. Mangalam Agrawal (talk) 12:06, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Contrary to your claims, the academics who authored the 18 high-quality reliable sources represent a diverse range of subject-matter experts, including: Joseph Alter, Christophe Jaffrelot, Amrita Basu, Swati Parashar, Anand Dibyesh, Eko Lyombe, and about a dozen more. Wikipedia content is mainly based on reliable secondary sources, not primary sources (e.g. court rulings) or personal opinions. Whether the content is favorable or unfavorable to the ruling party is irrelevant. — Newslinger talk 12:17, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Ok so what do you say about Communists, Communist Party of China, Pakistan Jihaad, etc. You never call them as militants and terrorists because that doesn't suit your narrative and propoganda. Mangalam Agrawal (talk) 12:24, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

If you have high-quality reliable sourcing that shows this as a significant aspect of those topics, feel free to introduce them to the respective talk pages and discuss with the editors there. — Newslinger talk 12:30, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

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