User talk:Messier83

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Speedy deletion nomination of Brad Jefferson[edit]

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Animoto and Brad Jefferson[edit]

You asked me and OrangeMike about these pages. What he said is what I think too about the company page. Let me add that you would do much better not to try to make a page about both the company and the executive,--rather one or the other; I think it's clear that the sources are more likely to be about the company. Remember that you need references providing substantial coverage from 3rd party independent published reliable sources, print or online, but not blogs or press releases, or material derived from press releases. Profiles on Crunchbase or Forbes, etc. , and not independent sources, and announcements of funding are not substantial coverage. . Full reviews of the company's products of a web site are good sources, and so is a truly independent article about the firm. Interviews tend to be questionable, if they just let the founder say whatever he cares to say. Concentrate on the best sources.

Include only material that would be of interest to a general reader coming across the mention of the subject and wanting the sort of information that would be found in an encyclopedia. Do not include material that would be of interest only to those associated with the subject, or to prospective clients or users--that sort of content is considered promotional. As a general rule, a suitable page will be best written by someone without Conflict of Interest; it's not impossible to do it properly with a conflict of interest or as a paid press agent, but it's relatively more difficult: you are automatically thinking in terms of what the subject wishes to communicate to the public, but an uninvolved person will think in terms of what the public might wish to know. Marketers think of products as a set of benefits, but on Wikipedia, products have to be described by what they do.

If you think you can do it right according to our guidelines, do so, but expect the article to be carefully checked for objectivity, and for the presence of sources that show notability. The best way of rewriting is to use the WP:Article Wizard, which will guide you towards an acceptable article if one is possible. For further information see our general guides to writing articles, WP:PLAIN and WP:FIRST; see also our list of the things we don't do here, WP:NOT, and our practical guide to conflict of interest, WP:Plain and simple conflict of interest guide — Preceding unsigned comment added by DGG (talkcontribs) 19:34, 11 August 2013‎ (UTC)


Thanks for the advice! I'll look into more substantial references. So should I completely avoid using press releases from the company? Even if I simply state: "In 2010, the company released a new application that allowed users to do such and such." Messier83 (talk) 23:26, 13 August 2013 (UTC)Messier83

Okay, well done, it's now back in article space. I think and hope that you have learned a lot from this experience.Deb (talk) 18:38, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

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Page for creation[edit]

Hi Messier 83! I thought based on the work you did on the Animoto page you might like to work on a page for Kizoa, also an online movie making site. You can find some references for the page under the Articles for creation, in the Computer Science, Computing, and Internet category, under Software should you be interested. — Preceding unsigned comment added by A at Kizoa (talkcontribs) 15:17, 3 March 2016 (UTC)