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WikiCup 2023 September newsletter
[edit]The fourth round of the competition has finished, with anyone scoring less than 673 points being eliminated. It was a high scoring round with all but one of the contestants who progressed to the final having achieved an FA during the round. The highest scorers were
Epicgenius, with 2173 points topping the scores, gained mainly from a featured article, 38 good articles and 9 DYKs. He was followed by
Sammi Brie, with 1575 points, gained mainly from a featured article, 28 good articles and 50 good article reviews. Close behind was
Thebiguglyalien, with 1535 points mainly gained from a featured article, 15 good articles, 26 good article reviews and lots of bonus points.
Between them during round 4, contestants achieved 12 featured articles, 3 featured lists, 3 featured pictures, 126 good articles, 46 DYK entries, 14 ITN entries, 67 featured article candidate reviews and 147 good article reviews. Congratulations to our eight finalists and all who participated! It was a generally high-scoring and productive round and I think we can expect a highly competitive finish to the competition.
Remember that any content promoted after the end of round 4 but before the start of round 5 can be claimed in round 5. Remember too that you must claim your points within 10 days of "earning" them and within 24 hours of the end of the final. If you are concerned that your nomination will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. It would be helpful if this list could be cleared of any items no longer relevant. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to keep down the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send.
I will be standing down as a judge after the end of the contest. I think the Cup encourages productive editors to improve their contributions to Wikipedia and I hope that someone else will step up to take over the running of the Cup. Sturmvogel 66 (talk), and Cwmhiraeth (talk)
Holiday Greetings
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Peace is a state of balance and understanding in yourself and between others, where respect is gained by the acceptance of differences, tolerance persists, conflicts are resolved through dialog, people's rights are respected and their voices are heard, and everyone is at their highest point of serenity without social tension. Happy Holidays to you and yours. Always a pleasure to see your work. ―Buster7 ☎
Third Party Candidates in State infoboxes
[edit]There is a long standing consensus that any candidate who generally polls more than 5% is included in the presidential campaign infoboxes of state articles pertaining to same. This goes back to the 2016 election, with Evan McMillan. I suggest you self revert.XavierGreen (talk) 17:56, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- Not state-by-state, IIRC. Maybe it did for McMillan after the vote? – Muboshgu (talk) 18:00, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- See here Talk:2024 United States presidential election/Archive 10 as another user pointed out on the Michigan page right above your comment Talk:2024 United States presidential election in Michigan, so you were clearly aware of same. Accordingly, please self revert.XavierGreen (talk) 18:04, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- I see a straw poll with no conclusion. There is no consensus to include RFK on any state page. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:15, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- The vast majority of editors responding were in favor of maintaining the 5% threshold a consensus was clearly formed. You are editing against it.XavierGreen (talk) 20:15, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- That is false. It's clearly 50-50 on that straw poll. – Muboshgu (talk) 23:56, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- The vast majority of editors responding were in favor of maintaining the 5% threshold a consensus was clearly formed. You are editing against it.XavierGreen (talk) 20:15, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- I see a straw poll with no conclusion. There is no consensus to include RFK on any state page. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:15, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- See here Talk:2024 United States presidential election/Archive 10 as another user pointed out on the Michigan page right above your comment Talk:2024 United States presidential election in Michigan, so you were clearly aware of same. Accordingly, please self revert.XavierGreen (talk) 18:04, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
Your draft article, Draft:Stefan Caray
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Hello, Muboshgu. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or draft page you started, "Stefan Caray".
In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.
Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 22:31, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
ITN recognition for Bill Pascrell
[edit]On 22 August 2024, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Bill Pascrell, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Ad Orientem (talk) 15:54, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
Nomination of Caleb Dirks for deletion
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The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Caleb Dirks until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.Walsh90210 (talk) 21:19, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
I'm sorry.
[edit]I really mean it. I'm sorry, and the last thing I wanna do is make you mad at my potentially disruptive way of speaking. Please, I hope you accept my apology. Lostfan333 (talk) 21:13, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- Lostfan333, I gladly accept the apology. Now lets go collaborate on some article content. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:52, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
Suspicious users 2024 U.S. presidential election
[edit]Hello. I wanted to bring to your attention suspicious activity at this RfC. There is an IP and a new user and their only contributions to Wikipedia is their participation in that RfC. Also, the IP !voted twice, which makes me think it is possible they were trying to sockpuppet, but accidentally used the same IP twice. Not sure if there is sockpuppetery going on, canvassing, or what. And I feel like other users at that RfC may be involved as well. What do you think is going on, if anything? Prcc27 (talk) 16:54, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- Prcc27, the duplicate IP vote can be easily discounted with a strikethrough and an explanatory note. Being suspicious of WP:DUCK-like behavior doesn't violate AGF. You can file an WP:SPI to confirm or exonerate the user. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:10, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
Deletion of August 2024 - Edit Summaries
[edit]Hello Muboshgu. Of course, you can delete your talk page additions you find uncomfortable or place you in a bad light and are contrary to the contents of the WP:DTTR essay (that does not contain rules) instead of archiving them, but it seems you needed a reminder. To regard experienced editors as exempt from reminders including violation of Wikipedia's consensus policy seems counterproductive and allows experienced editors to ignore Wikipedia precepts. So, will you provide edit summaries in keeping with Wikipedia's consensus policy? Thank you, Quaerens-veritatem (talk) 22:40, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- Quaerens-veritatem, do not assume the reason why I deleted your template, both of your guesses are incorrect. I tend not to respond to templates. I did not know what edit of mine triggered it and a personal approach is better. Now I know which article. I strive to use edit summaries, though I don't always remember to, and will continue to use them as often as I can. – Muboshgu (talk) 22:51, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- 😊 Thank you. Quaerens-veritatem (talk) 22:53, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
Logan Evans
[edit]Can you please move Logan Evans to Logan Evans (baseball) to make it a disambugation? Yankees10 19:44, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- Done. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:54, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- Muboshgu, you used the edit summary "maintain history", but in fact you did not maintain the edit history for Logan Evans (footballer) - it is stuck in Logan Evans (baseball), of all places. Could you do a history merge, please? StAnselm (talk) 01:35, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- With how badly it was messed up through edit warring, I'm not sure that can be done. – Muboshgu (talk) 01:50, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- Well, admins are supposed to be able to do it, but never mind - I tagged the article. StAnselm (talk) 04:08, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- Says the one who caused the problem in the first place... If you had not edited over the history of the baseball player we wouldn't be here now would we?-- Yankees10 04:14, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- Yankees10, I'm not sure what you were thinking with the article about the baseball player, but you created the article and then redirected it to Seattle Mariners minor league players. It's like you didn't think he was notable until another person of the same name appeared! StAnselm (talk) 04:28, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- This is literally standard practice. "Creating" an article over the edit history of a whole other person is not.-- Yankees10 04:45, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- Please be WP:CIVIL. To err is human. StAnselm, in the future, don't create an article for Subject A over a redirect for Subject B; put it in its own place and request a move after if you think it's the primary topic. Same advice goes to The-Pope. Let me try to do a history merge of it. I'm not sure it'll work. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:12, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- I think it worked. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:17, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you. StAnselm (talk) 18:17, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- This is literally standard practice. "Creating" an article over the edit history of a whole other person is not.-- Yankees10 04:45, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- Yankees10, I'm not sure what you were thinking with the article about the baseball player, but you created the article and then redirected it to Seattle Mariners minor league players. It's like you didn't think he was notable until another person of the same name appeared! StAnselm (talk) 04:28, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- Says the one who caused the problem in the first place... If you had not edited over the history of the baseball player we wouldn't be here now would we?-- Yankees10 04:14, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- Well, admins are supposed to be able to do it, but never mind - I tagged the article. StAnselm (talk) 04:08, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- With how badly it was messed up through edit warring, I'm not sure that can be done. – Muboshgu (talk) 01:50, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- Muboshgu, you used the edit summary "maintain history", but in fact you did not maintain the edit history for Logan Evans (footballer) - it is stuck in Logan Evans (baseball), of all places. Could you do a history merge, please? StAnselm (talk) 01:35, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
WikiCup 2024 August newsletter
[edit]The fourth round of the 2024 WikiCup ended on 29 August. Each of the 8 contestants who advanced to Round 4 scored at least 472 points, and the following contestants scored more than 700 points:
Generalissima (submissions) with 1,150 points, mostly from 3 featured articles, 2 featured lists, 7 good articles, and 13 did you know nominations;
Arconning (submissions) with 791 points, mostly from 2 featured lists, 8 good articles, 4 did you know nominations, and plenty of reviews;
AirshipJungleman29 (submissions) with 718 points, mostly from a high-multiplier featured article on Genghis Khan and 2 good articles; and
BennyOnTheLoose (submissions) with 714 points, mostly from 1 featured article on Susanna Hoffs, 2 featured lists, and 3 good articles.
Congratulations to our eight finalists and all who participated. Contestants put in extraordinary amounts of effort during this round, and their scores can be seen here. So far this year, competitors have gotten 36 featured articles, 55 featured lists, 15 good articles, 93 in the news credits, and at least 333 did you know credits. They have conducted 357 featured content reviews, as well as 553 good article reviews and peer reviews, and have added 30 articles to featured topics and good topics.
Any content promoted after 29 August but before the start of Round 5 can be claimed during Round 5, which starts on 1 September at 00:00 (UTC). Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. If two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether for a good article, featured content, or anything else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. Remember to claim your points within 14 days of earning them, and importantly, before the deadline on 31 October.
If you would like to learn more about rules and scoring for the 2024 WikiCup, please see this page. Further questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup and the judges (Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs), Epicgenius (talk · contribs), and Frostly (talk · contribs)) are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 03:12, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
On 31 August 2024, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Don Wert, which you nominated and updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. SpencerT•C 21:22, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – September 2024
[edit]News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2024).
- Following an RfC, there is a new criterion for speedy deletion: C4, which
applies to unused maintenance categories, such as empty dated maintenance categories for dates in the past
. - A request for comment is open to discuss whether Notability (species) should be adopted as a subject-specific notability guideline.
- Following a motion, remedies 5.1 and 5.2 of World War II and the history of Jews in Poland (the topic and interaction bans on My very best wishes, respectively) were repealed.
- Remedy 3C of the German war effort case ("Cinderella157 German history topic ban") was suspended for a period of six months.
- The arbitration case Historical Elections is currently open. Proposed decision is expected by 3 September 2024 for this case.
- Editors can now enter into good article review circles, an alternative for informal quid pro quo arrangements, to have a GAN reviewed in return for reviewing a different editor's nomination.
- A New Pages Patrol backlog drive is happening in September 2024 to reduce the number of unreviewed articles and redirects in the new pages feed. Currently, there is a backlog of over 13,900 articles and 26,200 redirects awaiting review. Sign up here to participate!
Native American data
[edit]Go to my talk page and see what user Stefen 𝕋ower wrote there. Domen von Wielkopolska (talk) 22:12, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- Domen von Wielkopolska, one editor is not a consensus. Contested content does not remain pending discussion. – Muboshgu (talk) 22:15, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- And also one editor is contesting my content. Where are we going to discuss this contested content? Domen von Wielkopolska (talk) 22:42, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
Uninvolved administrator opinion
[edit]Dear @Muboshgu, you are an administrator so I am proceeding with extreme caution due to concern on being banned if I say something you don't like.
Not stating you will do as above but my experience seeing other Administrators and reading about recent biases WP has in mainstream media worries me.
You and I have disagreed on another TP over a possible addition to an article. It seems you do not like the sources I brought even though they are not blocked nor deprecated.
In another TP which I dont see you have edited any time in the recent past (apologies if you did and I missed it; if so, please state so) you replied to me negatively on another sourced addition I asked.
Given your years of experience I dont believe this to be an example of following every post I make and try to counter my arguments. I will thus proceed with a RfC on that TP.
I would like to ask, very respectfully, for you to please not reply to me, edit my comments or post on my TP. I apologize for asking this, but if we can have an uninvolved administrator do so, if there is a need, that would be great.
Thank you for reading.
Very respectfully,
2601:19E:427E:5BB0:8BAB:B116:675B:AB5F (talk) 01:11, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- I cannot and will not agree to not reply to your talk page posts. I don't edit other people's posts unless they meet WP:REVDEL criteria. I will not block or sanction you as I don't act as an administrator on pages where I am WP:INVOLVED as an editor. You can get feedback from uninvolved administrators by visiting various noticeboards. – Muboshgu (talk) 01:14, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for replying. Just to understand properly, when I ask you to please not interact with me as an editor, you are confirming that Wikipedia:USERTALKSTOP doesn't apply?
- If it's ok to ask, is this because of your Administrator status or because its a personal decision to ignore my request?
- The above are all valid questions and asked without ill will. I am just trying to learn. WP is an extremely complex and arcane place.
- Thanks.
- Respectfully,
- 2601:19E:427E:5BB0:8BAB:B116:675B:AB5F (talk) 01:37, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- I was referring to article talk pages, not your user talk page. I will adhere to WP:USERTALKSTOP, as it says,
within reason
. Despite the unusual nature of the request, which I don't see as warranted. – Muboshgu (talk) 01:43, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- I was referring to article talk pages, not your user talk page. I will adhere to WP:USERTALKSTOP, as it says,