User talk:PuzzlePrinter

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Thank you for the welcome - although I can't say it feels very genuine when you have gone straight onto deleting me. I am new to this and happy to be advised of where I am doing things wrong. I put very little on my user page - just referenced to my company, because my understanding of the rules was that I needed to do so before editing incase of any conflicts of interest. PuzzlePrinter (talk) 22:01, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of User:PuzzlePrinter

A tag has been placed on User:PuzzlePrinter requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section U5 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to consist of writings, information, discussions, and/or activities not closely related to Wikipedia's goals. Please note that Wikipedia is not a free Web hosting service. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such pages may be deleted at any time.

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Contested deletion

This page should not be speedily deleted because... I hope to first have an explanation of where I have gone wrong, so that I can attempt to put it right --PuzzlePrinter (talk) 21:42, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You are blatantly promoting your own product on your user page Wikipedia is NOT the venue to promote anything! Theroadislong (talk) 21:46, 18 May 2016 (UTC

Whilst you haven't actually answered my question here - of where I went wrong - you did so on your own talk page where another user kindly "stood up for me". Apparently the issue was that I included a photograph. Happy to remove that, I hadn't realised that it would be a problem. The photograph was representative of my two hobbies: puzzles & 3D printing. PuzzlePrinter (talk) 06:52, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

And also the product your company makes and sells? Theroadislong (talk) 07:13, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, my company is part of who I am. Hobbies / Work / Life collide. I have said that if the photograph is a problem, I will remove it.PuzzlePrinter (talk) 12:12, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@PuzzlePrinter, "I am editing on behalf of PuzzleShed Ltd, who manufacture THREEDY 3D Printers."[Link] This text shows you're advertising or promoting some company. Pranish|^Talk 07:39, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

That text was not advertising - it was my "disclosure" which the rules say I have to include, to make sure that I don't advertise. PuzzlePrinter (talk) 12:12, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Managing a conflict of interest

Hello, PuzzlePrinter. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places, or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a COI may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic, and it is important when editing Wikipedia articles that such connections be completely transparent. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. In particular, we ask that you please:

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Please take a few moments to read and review Wikipedia's policies regarding conflicts of interest, especially those pertaining to neutral point of view, sourcing and autobiographies. Thank you. Theroadislong (talk) 21:47, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This is exactly why I was disclosing my affiliation - but that appears to have got me deleted / blockedPuzzlePrinter (talk) 22:20, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

How does X work?

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I am trying to learn about Wikipedia, and decided the best way was to start trying to use it.. however, as soon as I set up my user page I have been told it is likely to be deleted soon. I think it is because I have named the company I am editing on behalf of - I did this because the rules told me that I should (in case of conflicts of interest). Have I messed up by trying to do the right thing? The message says something about not having made many edits out of user space - that is because I have only just made it onto here and am trying to get started! PuzzlePrinter (talk) 21:51, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The reason you were blocked is because you are using a promotional username. The rules say you should disclose your affiliations, not name yourself after them. You can request a username when/if you appeal your block. Your username can be something directly related to PuzzlePrinter, such as "Jessie at PuzzlePrinter" or something unique to yourself. Either way, if you are connected to the company you will have to disclose it on your userpage.

Onto the article you were trying to write: your user page is not a place for promotion, especially the promotion of a company. That's what articles are for. If you manage to get unblocked, you should use the Article Wizard to create a draft about PuzzlePrinter. The Wizard will take you through the creation steps, and experienced reviewers will give feedback if necessary when you submit it for review. WP:YFA has more information about writing your first article. If you want more help, stop by the Teahouse, Wikipedia's live help channel, or the help desk to ask someone for assistance. Primefac (talk) 22:01, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Primefac. However, that accusation is not true. I am happy to change my username (once I have worked out how!) if necessary. It relates to my hobbies (which happen to be puzzles and 3D Printers). As far as I am aware, there is not a company called PuzzlePrinter. I am affiliated to a company and attempted to disclose this on my user page, but that has now been deleted so I am a bit stuck. PuzzlePrinter (talk) 22:10, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

If there is no company named PuzzlePrinter, then you should be fine, but getting unblocked is obviously an issue. In the section below, there's a notice about your block. It also gives instructions on how to request an unblock. The main reasons for your block, from what I can tell, is that you were using your own page for promotional purposes. It's totally fine to say you work for someone or you like a company, but quite another to actively try to get people to use it. Please keep that in mind when you request to be unblocked. Primefac (talk) 22:18, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Block notice

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for abuse of editing privileges. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by first reading the guide to appealing blocks, then adding the following text to the bottom of your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.

Materialscientist (talk) 21:54, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Why was my draft deleted?

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I have had a draft page I had started deleted. (At least I assumed that's what has happened, as I can no longer find it). I thought I had done things correctly. The page was in the Draft space, so that I could get it going. I have a COI - which I had declared. I know I can't publish the page myself, due to said COI. Hence it was in Draft space so I could bring the info together before flagging it up for anyone else interested to publish. I had read that this was what I would need to do. The page was Draft: THREEDY 3D Printers PuzzlePrinter (talk) 06:48, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Helped Blocking admin Materialscientist deleted Draft:THREEDY 3D Printers with the rationale "Mass deletion of pages added by PuzzlePrinter". Regards, Sam Sailor ^Talk! 10:53, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. That confirms it's been deleted (though not why) PuzzlePrinter (talk) 12:35, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Please explain why I have been blocked / deleted so soon

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What have I done differently to this page here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TripodMaker This article has been published, blatently by the founder of the company and with very few (if any?) independent citations. I am affiliated to a company, so disclosed that (according to the rules) and started a draft page with a view to getting it published (if that's the word for it) by someone independent once I'd got the info together (according to the rules - as far as I understand them). I have been deleted immeidately, whilst the above article gets to remain with a warning attached about lack of citations. It appears to me that the "rules" are implemented differently to different users Or have I misunderstood? In which case, please explain in plain English because I am really struggling to follow the workings of Wiki.

WP:DNB springs to mind (no idea if I've linked that correctly! As I said - I am trying to learn)

Thank you in advance PuzzlePrinter (talk) 12:33, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I may WP:PING @Materialscientist: do you a moment? Sam Sailor ^Talk! 15:21, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

PuzzlePrinter (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

I was blocked for "using Wikipedia for spam or advertising purposes" because I followed the rules and named the company that I was affiliated to in by user page. I thought that I was doing the correct thing in making this disclosure. My user page is 3 sentances long and I had started to put together a draft wiki page - I do not understand how that would equate to spam PuzzlePrinter (talk) 08:20, 20 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

You were blocked for Using Wikipedia for promotional purposes, not, as you for some reason evidently think, for naming the company you work for. It is true that an editor who evidently doesn't know or understand the requirement for disclosure wrongly thought that your user page should be deleted, but the block was unrelated to that. The draft you made was unambiguously promotional, and totally inappropriate as a Wikipedia article. If you would like to make other contributions to the encyclopaedia, other than using Wikipedia to publicise your company, then please feel welcome to make another unblock request, indicating what other editing you are likely to do. (Incidentally, thank you for drawing attention to the article TripodMaker. It has now been nominated for a deletion discussion. Personally, I would have speedily deleted it.) The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 12:15, 20 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.