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April 2019

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Information icon Hello, I'm Mattythewhite. Your recent edit to the page Presnel Kimpembe appears to have added incorrect information, so it has been removed for now. If you believe the information was correct, please cite a reliable source or discuss your change on the article's talk page. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Mattythewhite (talk) 18:23, 27 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

June 2019

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Hello, I'm DVdm. Wikipedia is written by people who have a wide diversity of opinions, but we try hard to make sure articles have a neutral point of view. Your recent edit to The God Delusion seemed less than neutral to me, so I removed it for now. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. DVdm (talk) 20:32, 11 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: you had a first level warning for this at User talk:41.115.27.11 already. You were also informed about our policies and content guidelines at Talk:The God Delusion, and here - DVdm (talk) 20:34, 11 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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I was wondering if you could fill me in on whether there are or aren't any "debate pages" of any sort on this subject (Intelligent design) Wikipedia Users like yourself & I, so that I may learn (& teach) on this subject. You may have found out that Wikipedia article talk pages are not forums (WP:NOTFORUM) for discussion of the topic, only to discuss the article content itself based on cited reliable sources (WP:CITE, WP:RS). There however are other places on the internet for such debates. If there's one place on Wikipedia that's closer to a forum for science topics, it would be the science reference desk. But I also suggest some reading (other than the articles on ID Wikipedia already has and its sources): Talk:Evolution/FAQ, scientific theory (not a hypothesis) and evidence of common descent. And related policy: WP:PSCI, WP:FRINGE, WP:GEVAL. —PaleoNeonate21:06, 11 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Is it possible to permanently erase my Wikipedia account/profile & if so, how exactly? Repent.The End is Near (talk) 19:39, 12 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

See Wikipedia:Username policy#Deleting and merging accounts. There are pointers such as courtesy vanishing / right to vanish. I hope this helps. Good luck. - DVdm (talk) 20:27, 12 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Science itself seems to support scripture

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PROVERBS 6:6-8: "Go to the ant, you sluggard! Consider her ways and be wise, which, having no captain, overseer, or ruler, provides her supplies in the summer, and gathers her food in the harvest."

      -Entomology, the scientific study of insects, began as a science in the 16th         
        century and confirmed what was written in Scripture about the ant:    
       the queen ant is supplied with food by the colony ants that gather for her.

JOB 28:24-25: "For He looks to the ends of the earth, and sees under the whole heavens, to establish a weight for the wind."

       -Evagelista Torricelli (1608-1647), Italian physicist and mathematician, invented the barometer and discovered that air has weight in 1640.

Robert William Boyle (1627-1691), Irish chemist, inventor, natural philosopher, and physicist, experimented with air pumps and discovered many properties of air. Boyle’s law states that the volume of gases varies inversely to the pressure upon the gas. Boyle’s work with air pumps was published in 1660, “New Experiments Physico-Mechanicall, Touching the Spring of the Air, and its Effects.”

CIRCUMCISION IS IDEALLY SUITED FOR THE EIGHTH DAY GENESIS 17:12: "He who is eight days old among you shall be circumcised, every male child in your generations."

LEVITICUS 12:3: "And on the eighth day the flesh of his foreskin shall be circumcised."

  -Medical science has recently discovered that the blood clotting chemical prothrombin peaks in a newborn male child on the eighth day. On the eighth day, the amount of prothrombin present is actually elevated above 100% of normal and this is the only day in a male’s life in which this will be the case. The eighth day is the safest day to circumcise a male child.

DINOSAURS DESCRIBED IN SCRIPTURE JOB 40:15-18: "Look now at the behemoth [BRACHIOSAURUS], which I made along with you; he eats grass like an ox. See now, his strength is in his hips, and his power is in his stomach muscles. He moves his tail like a cedar; the sinews of his thighs are tightly knit. His bones are like beams of bronze, his ribs like bars of iron"

JOB 41:1-2,13-15,25-30,33-34: "Can you draw out Leviathan [TYRANNOSAURUS REX] with a hook or snare his tongue with a line which you lower? Can you put a reed through his nose or pierce his jaw with a hook? … Who can remove his outer coat? Who can approach him with a double bridle? Who can open the doors of his face, with his terrible teeth all around? His rows of scales are his pride, shut up tightly as with a seal…When he raises himself up, the mighty are afraid. Because of his crashings they are bewildered. Though the sword reaches him, it cannot avail; nor does spear, dart, or javelin. He regards iron as straw and bronze as rotten wood. The arrow cannot make him flee and sling-stones become like stubble to him. Darts are regarded as straw and he laughs at the threat of javelins. His undersides are like sharp potsherds..On earth there is nothing like him - one that is made without fear. He beholds every high thing. He is king over all."

-Sir Richard Owen (1804-1892), English biologist, comparative anatomist, and 

paleontologist first coined the term ‘dinosaur’ in 1842 after he and other geologists found many large reptilian-like fossils. Job 40 and 41 describe dinosaurs that were created and lived with man. The narrative that dinosaurs lived of millions of years ago is false.

EARTH IS A CIRCULAR SPHERE HANGING ON NOTHING IN SPACE JOB 26:7: "He [GOD] hangs the earth on nothing." JOB 26:10: "He drew a circular horizon on the face of the waters, at the boundary of light and darkness." ISAIAH 40:22: "It is God who sits above the circle of the earth."

-Sir Isaac Newton (1643-1727), English mathematician, philosopher, and physicist, wrote “Principia” in 1684, which explained that the planets are suspended in empty space, held in their orbits by an invisible force - gravity. Ferdinand Magellan (1480-1521), Portuguese explorer, organized the first voyage to circumnavigate the globe, providing proof to the world that the Earth was round. Until then, it was widely believed that the Earth was flat.

EARTH HAS THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF WATER JOB 28:25-26: "God apportioned the waters by measure when He made a law for the rain." ISAIAH 40:12: "God has measured the waters in the hollow of His hand." -Science has confirmed that the Earth has the right amount of water to support life and that the Earth is located in the perfect Goldilocks Zone in its distance away from the Sun. The definition of the ‘Goldilocks Zone’ or ‘Habitable Zone’ is the region of space where conditions are favorable for life as it is found on Earth, allowing for the existence of liquid water and life. If Earth revolved around the Sun at a greater distance, the water on Earth would freeze over. If Earth were too close to the Sun, the liquid water on Earth would evaporate.

EARTH SPINS ON ITS AXIS JOB 38:14 (KJV): "It [THE EARTH] is turned as clay to the seal [ON A POTTER'S WHEEL]; and they [THE CLOUDS - JOB 38:9] stand as a garment."

-Heraclides Ponticus (387–312 BC), Greek astrologer and philosopher, first proposed that the Earth rotates on its axis. Many people continued to believe that the Earth did not move, based on a misunderstanding of Scripture verses that say the Earth is established and cannot be moved (Psalm 93:1, 104:5; 1 Chronicles 16:30). “The Earth cannot be moved” is a reference to the Earth’s stability, and that it is established in orbit and cannot be moved out of orbit.

FLIGHT BY MANKIND ISAIAH 60:8: "Who are these who fly like a cloud, and like doves to their roosts?" HOSEA 11:11: "They shall come trembling like a bird from Egypt, like a dove from the land of Assyria." ISAIAH 18:1 NKJV (HS): "Woe to the land shadowed with buzzing (whirring) wings, which is beyond the rivers of Ethiopia."

-The Wright brothers, Orville (1871-1948) and Wilbur (1867-1912), American inventors and aviation pioneers, are credited with inventing, building, and flying the world’s first successful airplane. Igor Ivanovich Sikorsky (1889-1972), Russian-American, designed the first viable American helicopter in 1939, and later reconfigured the design for the first mass-produced helicopters in 1942.Before controlled manned flight, many churches smugly uttered the axiom, “If God had meant for man to fly, He would have given him wings.” If the Christian churches had known their Scriptures, they would not have uttered such phrases, for the Scriptures declared that mankind would take to flight.

LIGHT CAN BE DIVIDED

JOB 38:25 (NKJV, KJV, HS): "By what way is light (diffused, parted, divided)?"

-Sir Isaac Newton (1643-1727), English mathematician, philosopher, and physicist, discovered in 1666 that white light could be divided into a spectrum of colors, because white light was composed of particles with different colors that traveled with different speeds through the prism. Before Newton’s Corpuscular Theory of Light, which was later confirmed, it was believed that white light was colorless and that the prism itself produced the colors.

ALL OF MANKIND IS RELATED, YET EACH PERSON IS UNIQUE JOB 37:7: "He seals the hand of every man." ACTS 17:26: "And He has made from one blood every nation of men to dwell on all the face of the earth." Every man and woman who has ever been born is unique. No two persons, even identical twins, share the same fingerprint or handprint. Science has recently determined, through DNA and chromosome testing, that all of mankind share the same gene pool and are thus related to one another. Evolutionists have claimed that human beings evolved from apes millions of years ago, but science does not support their theory.

MAN WAS MADE FROM THE DUST OF THE EARTH GENESIS 2:7, 3:19: "And YHWH (the Lord) God formed man of the dust of the ground. … In the sweat of your face you shall eat bread till you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken; for dust you are, and to dust you shall return." PSALM 139:15: "My frame was not hidden from You, when I was made in secret, and skillfully wrought in the lowest parts of the earth." 1 CORINTHIANS 15:47: "The first man was of the earth, made of dust."

-Researchers at NASA’s Ames Research Center published an article in Reader’s Digest in 1982 that said, “We are just beginning to learn. The biblical scenario for the creation of life turns out to be not far off the mark.” The researchers found that the human body is composed of the same elements and minerals found in the Earth’s crust. Scientists had previously dismissed the simplicity of Scripture’s account of the creation of man, as they did not think there was any way that the complex structure of the human body was formed from dust.

As a former Agnostic, I'm now a believer & I'm quite willing to accept whatever punishment you may have for me but I have just shown that my faith is more than just faith or "Opinion" but scientifically supported.I don't do this out spite but out of love for you. This isn't just my opinion but it is supported by science itself & I have cited it for you all. What more do we as believers of truth need to do to prove that God exists before you accept it? And before you tell me that this is simply my opinion, please look at the above scientific findings because I'm not the one who came up with them....If you don't believe me investigate it for yourself, any of these facts.... REMEMBER THAT GOD LOVES YOU & I care about you. Repent.The End is Near (talk) 20:52, 12 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Problems with Evolution

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1.Lack of a viable mechanism for producing high levels of complex and specified information. Related to this are problems with the Darwinian mechanism producing irreducibly complex features, and the problems of non-functional or deleterious intermediate stages.

2. The failure of the fossil record to provide support for Darwinian evolution

3. The failure of molecular biology to provide evidence for a grand “tree of life.”

4. Natural selection is an extremely inefficient method of spreading traits in populations unless a trait has an extremely high selection coefficient

5. The problem that convergent evolution appears rampant — at both the genetic and morphological levels, even though under Darwinian theory this is highly unlikely.

6. The failure of chemistry to explain the origin of the genetic code.

7. The failure of developmental biology to explain why vertebrate embryos diverge from the beginning of development.

8. The failure of neo-Darwinian evolution to explain the biogeographical distribution of many species.

9. A long history of inaccurate predictions inspired by neo-Darwinism regarding vestigial organs or so-called “junk” DNA.

10. Humans show many behavioral and cognitive traits and abilities that offer no apparent survival advantage (e.g. music, art, religion, ability to ponder the nature of the universe).

And there's still plenty more.... Repent.The End is Near (talk) 21:17, 12 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

June 2019

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Cullen328 Let's discuss it 21:50, 12 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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I noticed that you have blocked me from making edits. I believe that you have made a mistake because if you have noticed, I have mainly been making edits on religious topics but my main motive was for people (users) to make edits objectively. For example, When I made the edit on "The God Delusion" article I added inverted commas on the word "Illusion" because the article immediately goes against what Wikipedia claims to stand for, which is providing information (preferably with proof) without bias.This statement calling Intelligent design an illusion displays bias. The moment Wikipedia failed to add inverted commas on the word "Illusion" when referring to Intelligent Design & when Wikipedia addresses Intelligent Design as pseudoscience, they have done just that, displaying bias. Intelligent design is an alternative to The Big Bang and factually has more evidence supporting it, unless you want to suggest that random processes (natural selection) brought about the intricately complex molecule known as DNA or The fine-tuned atmosphere of the Earth & you can do research and I guarantee that you will find that Evolution & the Big Bang still remain a theory. To quote the Physicist & scientist, Paul Davies: "We are still left with the mystery of where biological information comes from...If the normal laws of physics can't inject information, and if we are ruling out miracles, then how can life be predetermined and inevitable rather than a freak accident? How is it possible to generate random complexity and specificity together in a lawlike manner? We always come back to that basic paradox." These things imply that the big Bang (which supports & is supported by natural selection) couldn't come as a result of natural selection along with such fine-tuning & complexity because it is contrary to Natural selection. It is impossible to give an example of any natural law that could cause complex information which proves naturalism and The Big Bang theory as unscientific. Stephen C. Meyer wrote: "There isn't a single example anywhere in the history of the universe where information came from anything other than an intelligent source". This is why I stress this.If you cannot understand or agree with this will you at least, as a request, suggest to whoever you can & have to, for Wikipedia to have a debate page that will be monitored & controlled by Wikipedia. With all due respect, I have had no intention of deceiving or misleading anyone & I humbly apologize for it. But it remains, as Ben Shapiro once said "Facts don't cease to be facts because of how you feel about them" Repent.The End is Near (talk) 23:33, 12 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Meyer's assumptions are dead wrong. Davies is also a religionist, and like Meyer he starts with the assumption that Bible is "true". That's pseudoscience. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots00:09, 13 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia is an encylopedia, not a debating society. There are plenty of other websites where you can debate whatever you want. General debating will never be acceptable here. If you want to be unblocked, you need to follow the instructions above. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 00:20, 13 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I was going to suggest that the user should take his spiel to Conservapedia. They'd probably love him. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots00:21, 13 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • If this talk page continues to be used as a forum or blogging platform, access to it may also be revoked (WP:NOTWEBHOST). The access is preserved to allow you to formulate an unblock request in case you would like to eventually help building the encyclopedia instead (WP:HERE). —PaleoNeonate06:35, 13 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The article doesn't say that Intelligent Design is an illusion; it says that Dawkins calls it one. —Tamfang (talk) 05:39, 19 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]