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Your submission at Articles for creation: Amddiffynydd yr Eglwys has been accepted

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Theroadislong (talk) 13:54, 23 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Athraw has been accepted

Athraw, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.
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Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 15:47, 23 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Annual Report of the Swansea Literary and Scientific Society (November 25)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Curb Safe Charmer was:

This submission's references do not adequately show the subject's notability. Wikipedia requires significant coverage (not just mere mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject—see the general guideline on notability, the golden rule and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. Please improve the submission's referencing (see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners and Help:Introduction to referencing/1), so that the information is verifiable, and there is clear evidence of why the subject is notable and worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia. If additional reliable sources cannot be found for the subject, then it may not be suitable for Wikipedia at this time.

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Please add further references that show that this subject has been covered in depth in multiple reliable, independent publications.

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Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 21:42, 25 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! Ruthpa, I noticed your article was declined at Articles for Creation, and that can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 21:42, 25 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Athraw (crefyddol, hanesyddol, eglwysig a gwladol) (November 25)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Curb Safe Charmer was:

This submission's references do not adequately show the subject's notability. Wikipedia requires significant coverage (not just mere mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject—see the general guideline on notability, the golden rule and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. Please improve the submission's referencing (see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners and Help:Introduction to referencing/1), so that the information is verifiable, and there is clear evidence of why the subject is notable and worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia. If additional reliable sources cannot be found for the subject, then it may not be suitable for Wikipedia at this time.

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Please add further references that show that this subject has been covered in depth in multiple reliable, independent publications.

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Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 21:43, 25 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Cardiff Congregational Magazine (December 22)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by I dream of horses was:

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

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3-5 sources and a summary of them is more ideal.

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I dream of horses If you reply here, please ping me by adding {{U|I dream of horses}} to your message (talk to me) (My edits) @ 05:56, 22 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Cambrian Visitor (December 26)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Ammarpad was:

This may not have standalone page on Wikipedia. Please find related article and merge it.

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Ammarpad (talk) 02:22, 26 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:Athraw (crefyddol, hanesyddol, eglwysig a gwladol) has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Athraw (crefyddol, hanesyddol, eglwysig a gwladol). Thanks! SeraphWiki (talk) 06:30, 10 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Athraw (crefyddol, hanesyddol, eglwysig a gwladol) (January 21)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by KJP1 was:

This submission's references do not adequately show the subject's notability. Wikipedia requires significant coverage (not just mere mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject—see the general guideline on notability, the golden rule and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. Please improve the submission's referencing (see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners and Help:Introduction to referencing/1), so that the information is verifiable, and there is clear evidence of why the subject is notable and worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia. If additional reliable sources cannot be found for the subject, then it may not be suitable for Wikipedia at this time.

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The product of what was, in my view, an unfortunate experiment. Aside from digitalising it, nobody has done anything with this, let alone written about it, in one hundered years. It is just not Notable.

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KJP1 (talk) 23:53, 21 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Dirwestydd (January 25)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by KJP1 was:

This submission's references do not adequately show the subject's notability. Wikipedia requires significant coverage (not just mere mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject—see the guidelines on the notability of organizations and companies, the golden rule and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. Please improve the submission's referencing (see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners and Help:Introduction to referencing/1), so that the information is verifiable, and there is clear evidence of why the subject is notable and worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia. If additional reliable sources cannot be found for the subject, then it may not be suitable for Wikipedia at this time.

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Another in a regrettable experiment. Nothing to indicate Notability

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KJP1 (talk) 21:10, 25 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Notability

@Curb Safe Charmer, I dream of horses, and KJP1: Hi. Could we please have a little more detail as to why these articles fail to meet notability guidlines? Several have been rejected based on not meeting guidelines for General notability and even notability of organizations and companies. These articles are about historical periodicals and should be judged by the Newspapers, Magazines and Journals guidelines.

have served some sort of historic purpose or have a significant history - These are historical early welsh Journals. Many where published in the U.S.A by early Welsh settlers and many are a product of the rise of non-conformity in Wales - An important religious movement in Welsh history. They all form part of the Welsh Journals Online website produced by the National Library of Wales. You will see that dozens of articles about journals in the National collection have been published without issue.

are considered by reliable sources to be authoritative in their subject area - These Journals are frequently used by students and researchers of 19th Century Welsh history.

are significant publications in ethnic and other non-trivial niche markets - These journals are hugely important in the development of a Welsh language press, and represent the strong cultural identity of the Welsh people. The growth in this Welsh free press played a huge part in the later protection and survival of the Welsh language and the development of a parliament for Wales.

These articles are being created by volunteers based at the National Library of Wales, so i am happy to monitor the quality of these stubs and to encourage the inclusion of more than one citation. However there seem to many hundreds of articles like THIS without a single citation, which get by just fine. Please do reconsider these rejections, and feel free to contact me for more information about the Journals. Thanks Jason.nlw (talk) 14:33, 1 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Jason.nlw: thanks for the feedback. Perhaps I am splitting hairs but I think Wikipedia:Notability_(media)#Newspapers,_magazines_and_journals isn't actually a guideline? Anyway, I will respond regarding the draft I declined. There wasn't enough context in the draft to understand how the journal was notable. The one reference appears to be about a different journal. On reflection, I think the content of the page should be merged into Royal Institution of South Wales. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 14:51, 1 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Curb Safe Charmer, thanks for looking at this again. I agree regarding the merge in this case and have now done so. Jason.nlw (talk) 21:35, 1 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Jason.nlw - Jason, I’ll also go and have a look at the one/two I declined. But one general point, that there might be other weak articles on Wikipedia is not generally a strong argument for adding to that number. KJP1 (talk) 17:49, 1 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

KJP1 Yes, not the strongest argument i know. I think the journals importance in a Welsh context is the most important point, but i understand with the short stub articles it can be hard to convey that. Let me know your thoughts once you have had another look. There seems to be a precedent for accepting all academic journals, but with older periodicals like this it is less clear what is acceptable or not. Thanks again Jason.nlw (talk) 21:35, 1 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Annual Report of the Swansea Literary and Scientific Society concern

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Your draft article, Draft:Annual Report of the Swansea Literary and Scientific Society

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. » Shadowowl | talk 17:08, 30 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]