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Your submission at Articles for creation: Revati Devasthale (February 12)

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Revati Devasthale (February 12)

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Jovanmilic97 (talk) 19:46, 12 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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February 2022

Hello. This is a message to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions, such as the edit you made to Botswana International, did not appear to be constructive and have been reverted. Please take some time to familiarise yourself with our policies and guidelines. You can find information about these at our welcome page which also provides further information about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. If you only meant to make test edits, please use your sandbox for that. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you may leave a message on my talk page. Thank you. Stvbastian (talk) 03:37, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Revati Devasthale (February 13)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Greenman was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines for sports persons and athletes). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

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Does not appear to meet WP:NBADMINTON.

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Greenman (talk) 22:15, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Revati Devasthale (April 26)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by MurielMary was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

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Thanks for creating this draft. The subject doesn't seem to meet the notability criteria for an athlete to have a biography on Wikipedia as the highest level of sport she has participated in is youth regional (and one international event).

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MurielMary (talk) 11:33, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi MurielMary

Thanks for reviewing my article "Draft:Revati Devasthale" page.

I have provided all the supporting articles/URLs as per WP:NBADMINTON for "Draft:Revati Devasthale" page.

you said she has participated in youth regional but that is within notability criteria as it was WORLD university championship and it was twice and not just once. she also participated in Asian Junior Badminton Championships. she also won gold medal in internationals. she was also part of Indian Badminton League which PBL now.

Request you please review it again. I have done all changes which was suggested by all reviewers.

There are few athletes whos pages are present who doesn't even match with achievements of Revati.

I think we should give equal justice to her as well. Please I am requesting you please please review it again. Sachinsonune5 (talk) 14:38, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi MurielMary

Thanks for reviewing my article "Draft:Revati Devasthale" page.

I have provided all the supporting articles/URLs as per WP:NBADMINTON for "Draft:Revati Devasthale" page.

you said she has participated in youth regional but that is within notability criteria as it was WORLD university championship and it was twice and not just once. she also participated in Asian Junior Badminton Championships. she also won gold medal in internationals. she was also part of Indian Badminton League which PBL now.

Request you please review it again. I have done all changes which was suggested by all reviewers.

There are few athletes whos pages are present who doesn't even match with achievements of Revati.

I think we should give equal justice to her as well. Please I am requesting you please please review it again. Sachinsonune5 (talk) 07:38, 29 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

Hi Sachin, I see you have requested your draft to be accepted by Wikipedia. Just fyi, even if it does pass WP:NBAD by virtue of her Botswana International performance, it can still not be included as an article because the subject; Revati Devasthale does not pass WP:GNG which means she is less than notable. Reviewers no longer accept articles who merely pass WP:NBAD which was done before (until last year). Revati has only passing mentions in external sources and lacks significant coverage in reliable sources. With all these things keeping in mind, I would suggest you to simply stop submitting the draft continuously which you are doing for past 4 months now. If she ever meets general notability guideline in future, an article could be considered for her in Wikipedia. zoglophie 20:27, 10 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

HI zoglophie ,

Thanks for your response. are you saying BWF, TOI, Hindustan Times and other mentioned media are not reliable?

Can you please go through below if these are reliable media? and suggest if it still doesn't qualify for WP:GNG?

https://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/draw.aspx?id=9D48D874-EF9F-4C1E-A86E-ADA53941F6DF&draw=3

https://bwfbadminton.com/player/96882/revati-devasthale

https://www.sportskeeda.com/badminton/news-aman-farogh-sanjay-revati-devasthale-triumph-botswana-international-future-series-badminton

https://sportsaction.in/badminton-revati-devasthale-completes-dream-win

https://thetimesbureau.com/naren-is-the-silver-medalist-202111/

http://thesoftcopy.in/2021/11/29/indian-shuttlers-in-botswana-stuck-in-botswana-wait-for-clarity/

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_BWF_Continental_Circuit

https://bwfbadminton.com/tournament/4200/botswana-international-2021/

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botswana_International

https://knowyourtown.co.in/double-bonanza-for-thane-badminton/

https://twitter.com/SportsArena1234/status/1465339781173317639

https://news.fr-24.com/nouvelles/473041.html

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bengaluru/three-indian-shuttlers-stuck-in-botswana/articleshow/87969802.cms Sachinsonune5 (talk) 08:24, 12 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Revati Devasthale (July 13)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Justiyaya was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines for sports persons and athletes). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Okay I've looked at the sources in the article and did a proquest search outside. [1] and [2] seemed promising to me but they are not independent (of each other) and seems shady to me. Would argue that this is borderline and there might be two sources I can find for the subject. one or two more sources may be enough. Can we find any non-English sources about the subject?

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Justi yaya 01:54, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

hi Justi yaya ,

Thanks for your response. but the reference you have searched are different. please check below.

Can you please go through below if these are reliable media? I have provides many sources below

https://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/draw.aspx?id=9D48D874-EF9F-4C1E-A86E-ADA53941F6DF&draw=3

https://bwfbadminton.com/player/96882/revati-devasthale

https://www.sportskeeda.com/badminton/news-aman-farogh-sanjay-revati-devasthale-triumph-botswana-international-future-series-badminton

https://sportsaction.in/badminton-revati-devasthale-completes-dream-win

https://thetimesbureau.com/naren-is-the-silver-medalist-202111/

http://thesoftcopy.in/2021/11/29/indian-shuttlers-in-botswana-stuck-in-botswana-wait-for-clarity/

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_BWF_Continental_Circuit

https://bwfbadminton.com/tournament/4200/botswana-international-2021/

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botswana_International

https://knowyourtown.co.in/double-bonanza-for-thane-badminton/

https://twitter.com/SportsArena1234/status/1465339781173317639

https://news.fr-24.com/nouvelles/473041.html

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bengaluru/three-indian-shuttlers-stuck-in-botswana/articleshow/87969802.cms

Sachinsonune5 (talk) 11:44, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

hi Justi yaya

adding few more sources, let me know if you need more.

https://www.devdiscourse.com/article/sports-games/1858312-badminton-in-2021-sindhus-journey-to-greatness-srikanths-resurgence-lakshyas-emergence

https://www.outlookindia.com/website/story/sports-news-badminton-year-ender-2021-pv-sindhus-journey-to-greatness-kidambi-srikanths-resurgence/406401

https://techilive.in/badminton-in-2021-sindhus-journey-to-greatness-srikanths-resurgence-lakshyas-emergence/

https://www.theswitzerlandtimes.com/pv-sindhu-kidambi-srikanth-and-lakshya-sen-to-headline-a-prolific-2021-year-for-indian-badminton-badminton-news-2/

https://www.insidesport.in/indian-badminton-yearender-pv-sindhus-journey-to-greatness-kidambi-srikanths-resurgence-and-lakshya-sens-emergence/

https://indiaaheadnews.com/sports/badminton-in-2021-sindhus-journey-to-greatness-srikanths-resurgence-lakshyas-emergence-85110/

https://www.thebharatexpressnews.com/pv-sindhu-kidambi-srikanth-and-lakshya-sen-to-headline-a-prolific-2021-year-for-indian-badminton-badminton-news/

http://www.millenniumpost.in/sports/badminton-in-2021-sindhus-journey-to-greatness-srikanths-resurgence-lakshyas-emergence-462721

https://www.firstpost.com/sports/badminton-in-2021-pv-sindhus-journey-to-greatness-kidambi-srikanths-resurgence-and-lakshya-sens-emergence-10230981.html

https://www.thehansindia.com/sports/sindhus-path-to-greatness-srikanths-resurgence-lakshyas-emergence-take-centre-stage-721373

https://www.newindianexpress.com/sport/other/2021/dec/23/badminton-in-2021-sindhus-journey-to-greatness-srikanths-resurgence--lakshyas-emergence-2398886.html

https://swifttelecast.com/badminton-in-2021-pv-sindhus-journey-to-greatness-kidambi-srikanths-resurgence-and-lakshya-sens-emergence-badminton-news/

https://thebridge.in/badminton/resurgence-kidambi-dawn-lakshya-legend-sindhu-badminton-won-2021-27624

https://www.timescontent.com/syndication-photos/reprint/sports/452814/akshay-dewalkar-revati-devasthale-m.html

https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fnkba.in%2Fimages%2Fachivements%2FInternationals%2F2017%2FRevati%2520Devasthale%2520-%2520Sep%2717.jpeg&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fnkba.in%2Finternational.php&tbnid=G16X0aBELLABeM&vet=12ahUKEwiwlNeA5vX4AhUL-BoKHdzAC-YQMygPegQIARA-..i&docid=xxkKIQQtvul2_M&w=1024&h=546&q=revati%20devasthale%20in%20marathi%20news&safe=active&ved=2ahUKEwiwlNeA5vX4AhUL-BoKHdzAC-YQMygPegQIARA-

https://www.prokerala.com/news/photos/senior-national-badminton-championship-2017-315759.html

https://punemirror.com/pune/civic/5-sppu-students-make-it-to-universiade-2017/cid5142140.htm Sachinsonune5 (talk) 11:59, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

What are your best three? The Wikipedia community mostly consists of WP:Volunteers and I do not have the time to look through them all. Justi yaya 12:09, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Justi yaya

all sources are important, but you can check below 5 if possible.

and check all when you get some time. I did lot of work/research to get these information. Take your time. but atleast i will be happy my work is fo some use.

https://thebridge.in/badminton/resurgence-kidambi-dawn-lakshya-legend-sindhu-badminton-won-2021-27624

2. https://www.prokerala.com/news/photos/senior-national-badminton-championship-2017-315759.html

3. https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fnkba.in%2Fimages%2Fachivements%2FInternationals%2F2017%2FRevati%2520Devasthale%2520-%2520Sep%2717.jpeg&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fnkba.in%2Finternational.php&tbnid=G16X0aBELLABeM&vet=12ahUKEwiwlNeA5vX4AhUL-BoKHdzAC-YQMygPegQIARA-..i&docid=xxkKIQQtvul2_M&w=1024&h=546&q=revati%20devasthale%20in%20marathi%20news&safe=active&ved=2ahUKEwiwlNeA5vX4AhUL-BoKHdzAC-YQMygPegQIARA-

4. https://www.timescontent.com/syndication-photos/reprint/sports/452814/akshay-dewalkar-revati-devasthale-m.html

5. https://sportsaction.in/badminton-revati-devasthale-completes-dream-win Sachinsonune5 (talk) 12:18, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Review:

One mention of subject, not enough to satisfy WP:Significant coverage
Two mentions of the subject, not enough to satisfy WP:Significant coverage
An image, non-independent, and as such does not contribute to GNG
Passing mention, per 1 and 2
An argument for WP:Routine can be made and I am unsure about the reliability of the source, probably not.

In conclusion, I do not think the subject is notable. If you want to, skim through the guidelines I linked and send one or two more sources, I'll try to take a look sometime. Justi yaya 12:43, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

hi Justi yaya

thanks for response. see below two if that helps

1. https://www.sportskeeda.com/badminton/news-aman-farogh-sanjay-revati-devasthale-triumph-botswana-international-future-series-badminton

2. https://thetimesbureau.com/naren-is-the-silver-medalist-202111/

PFB my reply for above review,

please check content for her name. obviously subject will have top seed laksha and sindhu name.
that was just reference she played against sindhu and gave touch fight
image is from Nikhil kanetkar website, if you visit http://nkba.in/international.php you will have revati info this
that was just reference she played as doubles partner of Akshay Dewalkar

Sachinsonune5 (talk) 13:02, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I do not think the subject is notable, the sources you provided are unconvincing and the two sources above seemed like routine or passing coverage as well. Apologies if this result seems disappointing, an article may be possible at a later time if the subject receives significant coverage in the future. If you want someone else to look over it, feel free ping me (like you did before) and I'll post a request or ping someone, do provide (I know, again) your three best sources (no more than three please) in the request as well. Justi yaya 13:55, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

hi Justi yaya

from the last two sources which I have provided, Sportskeeda is listed on Wikipedia as reliable source. if its not trusted, why we have its Wikipedia page. requesting you please have look once again.

please check below three as requested. BWF is highest reliable source in badminton world. there is significant coverage on below

1. https://bwfbadminton.com/tournament/4200/botswana-international-2021/

(select WS from drop down of above page)

2. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botswana_International

(refer 2021 on this page which redirects to https://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/winners.aspx?id=9D48D874-EF9F-4C1E-A86E-ADA53941F6DF)

3. https://www.sportskeeda.com/badminton/news-aman-farogh-sanjay-revati-devasthale-triumph-botswana-international-future-series-badminton Sachinsonune5 (talk) 14:14, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I did not contest the reliability of Sportskeeda (although having a Wikipedia article about a source does not mean that it is reliable) I am simply suggesting that the article you linked provides routine coverage of the subject Justi yaya 14:18, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Justi yaya

please check below three as requested. BWF is highest reliable source in badminton world. there is significant coverage on below

1. https://bwfbadminton.com/tournament/4200/botswana-international-2021/

(select WS from drop down of above page)

2. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botswana_International

(refer 2021 on this page which redirects to https://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/winners.aspx?id=9D48D874-EF9F-4C1E-A86E-ADA53941F6DF)

3. https://www.sportskeeda.com/badminton/news-aman-farogh-sanjay-revati-devasthale-triumph-botswana-international-future-series-badminton

Sachinsonune5 (talk) 14:19, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think you understand our policies clearly... Sorry, I don't think I can help you. Justi yaya 14:25, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Justi yaya

I gave all information you asked. now you saying i don't understand policies. :(

You guys not ready to check all the information provided and then saying limited provided sources are not reliable.

Does that mean she did not won Botswana international?

She was part of Pune Pistons team at Indian Badminton League 2013

if you see all the team member of Pune Pistons team at Indian Badminton League 2013, they have wikipedia page. just Revati was added to team during last auction, her page was not created by Franchises of that team.

I can made changes/correct syntax issues in page if required but its really disappointing to reject it by saying its not reliable or not having reliable source, because i provided many sources till now, and all information is true.

please help, i have did lot of research for this page creation. Sachinsonune5 (talk) 14:39, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please read WP:GNG point two about significant coverage and the last point about being independent of the subject (maybe Wikipedia:ROUTINE as well) I believe you are having misconceptions about those two bullet points based on the sources you are giving me. Justi yaya 14:47, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

HI Justi yaya

for Wikipedia:ROUTINE, i gave you multiple news paper sources as well, but you saying subject need her name. for the sources have her name, you saying its not reliable(sportsaction, sportskeeda,timesbureau) see one more https://knowyourtown.co.in/double-bonanza-for-thane-badminton/ if that help you.

see your comment below made on 12 july, you said you convinced with WP:GNG

somewhat convinced of GNG per wikipedia library sources, marked as in review and will do so in ~12 hours Justi yaya 16:18, 12 July 2022 (UTC) Sachinsonune5 (talk) 14:57, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I said I was somewhat convinced of GNG, I was sleepy, I did not read the articles but instead relied on the headings, which was a bad idea. I do not think the additional link provided is reliable. I have left a note on the draft linking to this discussion. Justi yaya 15:11, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Justi yaya

ok providing you more source, please search revati name in message body of this page https://www.newindianexpress.com/sport/other/2021/dec/23/badminton-in-2021-sindhus-journey-to-greatness-srikanths-resurgence--lakshyas-emergence-2398886.html

similar news coverage on below sites as well.