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16:02, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Southpoint (Record Label) (November 19)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Theroadislong was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of organizations and companies). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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Theroadislong (talk) 15:30, 19 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

paid editing

Hello Southpointmusic. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

Paid advocates are very strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are extremely strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Southpointmusic. The template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=Southpointmusic|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. Theroadislong (talk) 15:31, 19 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi,

Not a paid edit, I run the company. Is that not allowed? I just wanted to create a Wiki page as I thought it was OK as we now have articles about us.

Thanks, Josh

Killian Spiceley (talk) 16:03, 19 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

That you run the company is exactly what is covered by paid editing, covered under 'broadly construed'. Also, your name "Southportmusic" is forbidden, as User names cannot be businesses. You can abandon your account and start a new one with a name such as JoAtSouthport, and then continue to work on the draft. You will still need to post the mandatory disclosure on that User page. David notMD (talk) 17:19, 19 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

There is a complication. User:joshgunston was indefinitely blocked back in 2016. You next step is to appeal that block on the Talk page of that account. Given that the block was for trying to create an article about Southpoint Music, hard case. David notMD (talk) 17:20, 19 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

So is it not realistic that I'll be able to create Southpoint? Killian Spiceley (talk) 18:47, 19 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome!

Hello, Southpointmusic, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions.

I noticed that one of the first articles you edited appears to be dealing with a topic with which you may have a conflict of interest. In other words, you may find it difficult to write about that topic in a neutral and objective way, because you are, work for, or represent, the subject of that article. Your recent contributions may have already been undone for this very reason.

To reduce the chances of your contributions being undone, you might like to draft your revised article before submission, and then ask me or another editor to proofread it. See our help page on userspace drafts for more details. If the page you created has already been deleted from Wikipedia, but you want to save the content from it to use for that draft, don't hesitate to ask anyone from this list and they will copy it to your user page.

One rule we do have in connection with conflicts of interest is that accounts used by more than one person will unfortunately be blocked from editing. Wikipedia generally does not allow editors to have usernames which imply that the account belongs to a company or corporation. If you have a username like this, you should request a change of username or create a new account. (A name that identifies the user as an individual within a given organization may be OK.)

In addition, if you receive, or expect to receive, compensation for any contribution you make, you must disclose your employer, client, and affiliation to comply with our terms of use and our policy on paid editing.

Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

Best practices for editors with close associations
Plain and simple conflict of interest guide
The five pillars of Wikipedia
Contributing to Wikipedia
Tutorial
How to edit a page and How to develop articles
How to create your first article (using the Article Wizard if you wish)
Simplified Manual of Style

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place {{Help me}} before the question. Again, welcome! Theroadislong (talk) 16:16, 19 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hey,

Thanks for your message — apologies, I'm very new to using Wikipedia so I'm finding it all very overwhelming. I'll request to change my username (I actually have an old account, joshgunston, which I could use instead?)

I'm a bit confused now — are the articles suffice for the page to be published? This message has confused me a bit. Are you able to proof-read the article for neutral point of view? I believe I've done this to the best of my ability.

Many thanks, Josh

Killian Spiceley (talk) 16:55, 19 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

If you already have another account then you need to abandon this one and ONLY edit from the other, see WP:SOCKPUPPETRY.Theroadislong (talk) 17:20, 19 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

As now described above, Josh is indef blocked on the other account, so advice given is that his next step - mandatory - is to appeal that block. I concur with the Speedy deletion nomination given the existing indef block. David notMD (talk) 17:24, 19 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

November 2021

This account has been blocked indefinitely as a sockpuppet that was created to violate Wikipedia policy. Note that using multiple accounts is allowed, but using them for illegitimate reasons is not, and that all edits made while evading a block or ban may be reverted or deleted. If this account is not a sockpuppet, and you would like to be unblocked, you may appeal this block by first reading the guide to appealing blocks, then adding the text {{unblock|Your reason here ~~~~}} below. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 19:03, 19 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Just to clarify: as explained above, you can ask for your previous account to be unblocked (log in to that account to do so). That request would have had a much better chance of success if you hadn't created this account. You won't in any case be unblocked to promote your company, as this project does not tolerate WP:PROMOTION of any kind. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 19:07, 19 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]