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Your submission at Articles for creation: International Journal of Science Annals (May 1)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Clearfrienda was:

We're sorry, but we cannot accept blank submissions. If in fact you did include text within the article, but it isn't showing, please make sure that any extra text above your entry is removed, as it may be causing it to hide and not be shown to the reviewer.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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Clear friend a ^💬 00:56, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Yurii Melnyk! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Clear friend a ^💬 00:56, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: International Journal of Science Annals (May 9)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Greenman was:

This submission does not appear to be written in the formal tone expected of an encyclopedia article. Entries should be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources. Please rewrite your submission in a more encyclopedic format. Please make sure to avoid peacock terms that promote the subject.

The comment the reviewer left was:

See WP:COI.

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Greenman (talk) 07:55, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Greenman,

Thank you for writing. I have made improvements to the International Journal of Science Annals. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:International_Journal_of_Science_Annals

Is it possible to move the article to the main space at this point? Yurii Melnyk (talk) 13:30, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: International Journal of Science Annals (May 9)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Qcne was:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

in-depth (not just brief mentions about the subject or routine announcements)
reliable
secondary
strictly independent of the subject

Make sure you add references that meet all four of these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

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Qcne (talk) 21:18, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for writing. I have made improvements to the International Journal of Science Annals.

This article conforms to Wikipedia's publishing standards. The informational style and formal tone expected of an encyclopedia article is fully realized.

This article presents only detailed, reliable, secondary and strictly independent sources.

The article contains a large number of reliable sources cited, including well-known scientometric databases and reputable international organizations such as the Committee on Publication Ethics (COPE), the Directory of Open Access Journals (DOAJ), and others.

The Wikipedia website contains articles from major publishers with similar descriptions: Annals of the New York Academy of Sciences

There are also many industry journals with similar page descriptions, including

International Journal of Environmental Research and Public Health

Annals of Physics

Annals of Nuclear Energy

Annals of Surgical Oncology

Please take the time to become familiar with this information.

I would appreciate your recommendations and help.

Thanks a lot for your work. Yurii Melnyk Yurii Melnyk (talk) 13:24, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Review and Corrections IJSA

Thank you for writing. I have made improvements to the International Journal of Science Annals.

Thanks a lot for your work. Yurii Melnyk (talk) 22:14, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Yurii Melnyk. You must include secondary sources that discuss the journal. You only have WP:PRIMARY sources right now. Therefore it cannot be moved to mainspace.

The examples you provided of existing articles are also poorly sourced: we unfortunately have many tens of thousands of poor quality articles that no volunteer has gotten around to updating or deleting yet.

This essay may be helpful: Wikipedia:Notability_(academic_journals). You haven't proven it meets the Criteria yet. Qcne (talk) 13:40, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have listed some reputable journals that have their own Wikipedia pages.

The draft International Journal of Science Annals I have prepared is a page similar in section structure and content to those journals.

My Draft also has many internal links to Wikipedia, as well as detailed, reliable, secondary and strictly independent sources. I have cited sources that correspond to the Wikipedia:Notability_(academic_journals)

For example, Journal has been noted by various entities such as the ISSN International Centre and WorldCat, which assign and compile information about serial publications.

Your assertion about “many tens of thousands of poor quality articles” in Wikipedia does not improve it, but discredits the work of other conscientious reviewers and editors.

Please note that the rejection of an article and the existence of a large number of similar approved articles (in Wikipedia) may be considered discriminatory.

Perhaps you will reconsider your opinion. Yurii Melnyk (talk) 22:15, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Yurii Melnyk. I find your assertation that I declined (not rejected, there is a difference) your draft due to some sort of discrimination on my part utterly offensive. I do not like the tone of your message which comes across as a threat.

To protect myself I am recusing myself from reviewing this draft again. Qcne (talk) 07:30, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

To whoever is behind the nickname Qcne.

I have looked at your comments and recommendations (Wikipedia:Notability_(academic_journals)) and given a substantive response.

Any normal person will notice that my reply is written in strict official form. My answers are based on your questions and supported by facts. There is nothing offensive or threatening about my response.

If you find my recommendation “not to discredit the work of other conscientious reviewers and editors on Wikipedia” a bad tone, then I have nothing more to say to you. Yurii Melnyk (talk) 15:52, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Please note that the rejection of an article and the existence of a large number of similar approved articles (in Wikipedia) may be considered discriminatory." No, it may not. No precedent is ever set by any article for any other. If it were we would have a brutally fast descent into idiocracy.

It seems to me that you can use your energy and enthusiasm to edit the draft to make it acceptable, or you can use it as Don Quixote and tilt at windmills. The question is really about whether you want to achieve an article from the draft or a brouhaha. Please choose the article. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 22:21, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:International Journal of Science Annals has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:International Journal of Science Annals. Thanks! Theroadislong (talk) 07:43, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Paid editing

As previously advised, your edits give the impression you have a financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. You were asked to cease editing until you responded by either stating that you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits, or by complying with the mandatory requirements under the Wikimedia Terms of Use that you disclose your employer, client and affiliation. Again, you can post such a disclosure on your user page at User:Yurii Melnyk, and the template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=Yurii Melnyk|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}. Please respond before making any other edits to Wikipedia. Theroadislong (talk) 07:58, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Theroadislong, Thank you for writing. Absolutely all the contributions for Wikipedia I have made, or will make in the future, are made on a selfless basis and in accordance with the recommendations of Wikipedia. I am not being directly or indirectly compensated for my edits in Wikipedia. Thanks a lot for your work.

YBy your own admission you are the Editor-in-Chief of International Journal of Education and Science, International Journal of Science Annals. You MUST disclose this conflict of interest on your user page. All your edits on Wikipedia so far, are to promote this journal. Theroadislong (talk) 17:00, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This information is disclosed on my user page. Yurii Melnyk (talk) 17:07, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

But the disclosure is imperfect and incorrect. Please read, understand, and implement the disclosure in WP:PAID correctly 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 21:02, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: International Journal of Science Annals (May 25)

Your recent article submission has been rejected and cannot be resubmitted. If you have further questions, you can ask at the Articles for creation help desk or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help. The reason left by Randykitty was: This topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia. The comment the reviewer left was: Nonoe of the indexing services listed are selective in the sense of WP:NJournals. The impact factor is reported to be 100, but the Index Copernicus is widely considered to be a fake indexing service. There are no in-depth sources, so this also fails WP:GNG.

Randykitty (talk) 07:12, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Randykitty,

Your comments are very subjective.

They are based on misleading information and contradict the real facts.

1. The indexing services listed (please note that there are more than 40 of them on the Journal's website) testify to the popularity of this Journal. The Journal's website confirms this. It is visited daily by dozens of readers from 166 countries. Also, according to the WorldCat link, this journal is held in the archives of 159 libraries around the world. Therefore, this topic is of sufficient importance to be included in the Wikipedia.

2. Your assertion that «the Index Copernicus is widely considered to be a fake indexing service» is also very subjective. I know for a fact that many journals use Index Copernicus free of charge to determine the quality of their journal. Many research organisations and universities are considering indexing this database. I am not defending the authority of this or any other indexing base. I am just stating a fact that I know.

If we are to be objective in our evaluation of new sites, we need to consider all the criteria holistically, rather than emphasising one database that you personally have doubts about. For example, this journal has an ISSN and is listed in DOAJ, COPE...

Please note that this journal may have been noted by various entities such as the ISSN International Centre and WorldCat. This is in line with the requirements of the WP:NJournals .

There really are a lot of 'paper mills' and 'trash magazines'.

The IJSA meets high scientific and ethical standards and is recognised worldwide.

Therefore, the page deserves to be added to Wikipedia. Yurii Melnyk (talk) 20:49, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You seem to refuse to understand what proves notability here. Please actually learn that your references simply show that your journal exists. Let me tell you what we need.

We require references from significant coverage about the topic of the article, and independent of it, in multiple secondary sources which are WP:RS please. See WP:42. Please also see WP:PRIMARY which details the limited permitted usage of primary sources and WP:SELFPUB which has clear limitations on self published sources. Providing sufficient references, ideally one per fact referred to, that meet these tough criteria is likely to allow this article to remain. Lack of them or an inability to find them is likely to mean that the topic is not suitable for inclusion, certainly today.

This is not negotiable. Feel free to ask @Randykitty to reconsider, but you need to pull your horns in and do the correct work.

You also need to correct the statement on your user page that you are not being completed, broadly construed, for your edits. You are the editor in chief and your compensation is thaty the journal presumably enhances your professional reputation. You are, whether you choose to accept it or not, a paid editor under our rules. I am therefore about to issue a further formal warning about it. Your disclosure is not correct 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 21:00, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Timtrent, which part of "employer, client, and affiliation" is missing from the disclosure? Which of these would you expect to be added for it to become complete? ~ ToBeFree (talk) 21:36, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This: "I am not being directly or indirectly compensated for my edits in Wikipedia." I would expect that to be removed, because the role is compensation. Volunteers for an organisation are considered to be paid. I would also expect you to add {{paid}} with all parameters filled out to your user page. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 21:40, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@ToBeFree failed to ping. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 21:42, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Timtrent, I'm afraid this has become a bit too personal and should be more focused on content. The disclosure is fine; there is no actual additional information you're requesting that is currently withheld. Volunteers are not automatically considered to be paid; this was removed from WP:PAID after discussions and was never part of the ToU. There is also no requirement to use a specific template. Let's focus on the actual issue, promotion. Persistent promotion can of course lead to blocks. Perhaps we have already reached a point where a block is needed to prevent further promotion. Perfecting the disclosure is just a distraction from the actual issues. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 21:45, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

May 2024

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing certain pages (Draft:International Journal of Science Annals) and certain namespaces (Draft) for disruptively ignoring community concerns by overriding the draft's rejection.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please review Wikipedia's guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text to the bottom of your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:01, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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