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The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was promoted 03:35, 30 December 2007.

Baltimore City College

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I'm nominating this article for featured article because the page meets all FAC criteria, is well-written, well referenced, and has great images. One of the most comprehensive high school pages Bcc07 (talk) 19:21, 29 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • "the school was never granted the power to grant its graduates degrees." - In addition to being worded in a confusing manner, this seems to contradict the previous assertion. At the very least no argument is presented as to why this is the case.
  • Some words interspersed without the text are randomly wikified - (theater, student government, bi-weekly, newspaper, commencement) - and seems like a borderline case of overlinking (see WP:CONTEXT).
  • The table on enrollment peaks at almost 4,000 students, but has since dropped to almost a third of that. Given the opening of the school to blacks and women, as well as the baby boom echo, this seems counterintuitive. I didn't come across any explanation for this in either the history or enrollment sections. The table also needs a citation.
  • "The usual range of clubs and activities are offered" - this is a bit presumptuous and POV. Many schools, even within the US, don't have all or even any of these programs.
  • It's Academic is wikified twice.
  • The section on the band mentions the orchestra, concert, and marching band but only describes the marching band. The choir section seems to be a full of WP:CRUFT as well.
  • "In 1889, the first football game was played between City College and the Baltimore Manual Training School" - The first football game ever? Massage the wording.
  • I think the City-Poly rivalry and football sections should be collapsed together. The lacrosse section, while notable, seems anemic. Surely some of the other sports warrant mention as well?
    • The City-Poly rivalry and football page have separate pages i could not think of an appropriate way to put them together any suggestions?
  • The Green Bag controversy seems non-notable.
  • The Collegian section needs a rewrite or heavy copyedit given the clunky prose.
  • "One of the 2007 inductees was Robert Hormats, a Vice-President at Goldman-Sachs." - not notable
  • "The endowment assets remain at more than $1,000,000.00" - overly specific style, replace with $1 million
  • Section on notable alumni - painful overuse of hyphens for separate clauses
  • I think the list of notable facutly members could largely be subsumed by either the History or Academics sections.
  • Support. Well-written, well-sourced. One thing: the public domain images should be moved to Wikimedia Commons, and more details should be given on the image page than simply: "I took this picture." Even though they are public domain, it would help to know the date the picture was taken, who took it, precisely where it was, etc. Cirt (talk) 11:30, 7 December 2007 (UTC).[reply]
  • I reviewed the last FAC for this, and there's no mention of its previous nomination (which is required, I think).
  • "five year track"—hyphenate compound adjectives usually.
  • I do vomit at "City College's", which appears a number of times. Reword using "of" or otherwise, like "On 30 June 2003, City College's current building ..." --> "On 30 June 2003, the current building ...".
  • Repetitions such as "In addition to the 23 IB courses offered,[25] the school offers ..."—so easy to fix: remove "offered".
  • Redundancies still there, ripe for the plucking, such as "Students wishing to enroll in City College must apply to the school in the 8th grade." Spot the three redundant words. Straight after: "Eligibility for enrollment is based on a composite score that is determined by the Baltimore City Public School System."

I opposed last time, so I feel like a heel doing so again, since it has improved. See what you can do to clean up the redundancies, the odd repetitions, and the other issues. An unfamiliar editor would be best. I won't stand in the way of promotion, I guess. Tony (talk) 14:05, 13 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not hold back any criticism you may have. The FAC you commented on previously was for the History of Baltimore City College, so this is your first time reviewing this article. In light of that, any additional comments you have are welcome, and I will enlist the help of league of copyeditors in order to find an editor unfamiliar with the prose. Thanks, 128.252.254.17 (talk) 16:36, 13 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The previous comment is mine. Golem88991 (talk) 16:36, 13 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oops, sorry, mea culpa. Please proceed with sprucing it up. Find a collaborator who's fresh to it? Tony (talk) 15:22, 14 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

*Comments. There are some WP:MOS issues that need to be fixed and a bit of copyediting.

Karanacs (talk) 20:50, 20 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Eóin (talk) 22:00, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


  • Comments take two. I don't think you can use the image Collegian.jpg under fair use. The article does not discuss the particular issue that is being displayed, which appears to be required under fair use. Similarly, the image Green Bag.jpg is not fair use, because it depicts the 2006 The Green Bag and the article does not specifically mention that issue (although you could substitute this with a 2007 cover image). Karanacs (talk) 04:07, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.
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