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The article was promoted by Laser brain via FACBot (talk) 25 August 2019 [1].

Milorad Petrović[edit]

Nominator(s): Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 02:23, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This article is about the commander of the Royal Yugoslav Army's 1st Army Group during the Axis invasion of Yugoslavia in April 1941. It forms part of a 10-article good topic I am slowly moving towards featured. Have at it. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 02:23, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Image review

CommentsSupport by CPA-5[edit]

  • northern borders of Yugoslavia with Italy, Germany and Hungary Pipe Italy and Hungary to the Kingdom of Italy and the Kingdom of Hungary (1920–1946).
  • he opted to return to the new communist-led Yugoslav state Pipe Yugoslav state to the Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia.
  • an army camp at Valona in Albania Pipe Albania to the Principality of Albania.
  • Albania to the Greek island of Corfu by 10 February 1916, and there they regroupedn Pipe Greek to the Kingdom of Greece.
  • structure for the German-led Axis invasion Pipe here German with Nazi Germany and unlink the next German in the next paragraph.
  • the Yugoslav-Hungarian border and deployed Pipe Hungary to the the Kingdom of Hungary (1920–1946).
  • was promoted to the rank of kapetan prve klase" (captain first class) Is prve a typo? First class should have a hyphen?

That's anything not much to say here. Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 14:30, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

G'day CPA-5, I think I got them all. As far as prv/prve is concerned, it is the difference between first class captain and captain first class, but they are not hyphenated in Serbo-Croat AFAIK. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 02:00, 28 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
G'day CPA-5, anything else that strikes you as needing a tweak? Cheers, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 03:37, 2 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Support by Gog the Mild[edit]

  • "during the April 1941 German-led Axis invasion of Yugoslavia during World War II" 2 x "during". Not sure if anything can be done about it. (The second one to 'in' perhaps?)
  • ", and later that year, was promoted to" Either a comma after "and", or no comma after "year".
  • "It included members who fell into three groups" I am not sure which group, if any, Petrović fell into. I surmise the first, but it would be helpful if this could be made clearer.
  • "Petrović's Army Group reserve" Should A and G be lower case?
  • "there was a poor response to mobilisation" This could mean a number of things. Possibly "poor" → 'limited'?
  • "On the first day the Germans seized bridges" Perhaps 'On the first day of the invasion the Germans seized bridges'; or even 'On the first day of their invasion of Yugoslavia the Germans seized bridges'?
  • "in both sectors" 'in both armies' sectors' may make this clearer?
  • "The revolts within the 4th Army were of great concern to Trifunović" I don't doubt it, but it seems strange that it is deemed notable that an army commander is concerned about revolts in an army not his own, while the reaction of the commander of the revolting troops is not.
  • "and given the option of returning to the new communist-led Federal People's Republic of Yugoslavia" Is it known what his other option(s) were?

Good even by your high standards. I could only find the fiddly points above to pick at. Gog the Mild (talk) 16:31, 29 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Gog. I think I've addressed all your comments? Cheers, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 01:09, 30 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for taking my cavilling in good spirit. Supporting. Gog the Mild (talk) 01:20, 30 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Source review[edit]

  • Do we need countries in source locations?
    I routinely do, I know some don't. I find it useful, particularly where the country has changed, because it tells you something about the source, especially in the Balkans. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 04:30, 4 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    Okay, fair; but in that case, I think you should use them for the other sources, too. Italy isn't likely to be less known to our readers than the US; and the US was also a party to the conflict, albeit more distantly.
    I use states (or D.C.)/provinces for the US, Australia and Canada, as there can be more than one city of the same name. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 04:40, 4 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • In the web sources, the author is also the publisher; but does it really help to include his name in that field?
    It makes it clear it is self-published. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 04:30, 4 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Also; I know sources are likely thin in this topic (kudos to you for working with sources in five languages, by the way; quite a feat) but why do the web sources qualify as reliable? Not a rhetorical question; they might, but you'd have to persuade me.
    Niehorster has a PhD in history and is a published author (several books via Military Press) on orders of battle, and I have used him extensively for orbat info on FAs\FLs. Where I've used multiple orbat sources on other articles, he is almost always consistent with other reliable sources where they overlap. BTW, Serbian, Croatian and Serbo-Croatian are all mutually intelligible and essentially dialects of the same language with minor differences, so I only score one point for them... Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 04:30, 4 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    Fair enough.
  • The one-line-per-parameter makes my head hurt, but that's just me :)
    I find the same when they are all following each other, to each their own I suppose. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 04:30, 4 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Spotchecked Iaremko and Krzak; they check out.
  • Spotchecked ref 23; content is supported, but perhaps the page range should be extended to 60, to avoid all doubt?
    Done. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 04:30, 4 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I'll see if I get the chance to review prose, too; that's all I have on sources. Vanamonde (Talk) 03:43, 4 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

That'd be great, Vanamonde93. Thanks for looking at the sources! Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 04:30, 4 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Peacemaker67: Just one reply for you; also, I've boldly refactored your indents. I used to use the same format you just did; but I was informed, not too long ago, that a series of asterisks, or an asterisk followed by a series of colons, is accessible to visually impaired readers, but that a series of colons followed by an asterisk is not. Just so you know. Cheers, Vanamonde (Talk) 04:35, 4 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't know about the indents, I'll try to remember that. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 04:40, 4 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Vanamonde[edit]

That's about all I have; mostly minor; nice work. Vanamonde (Talk) 18:05, 20 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks very much for your review, Vanamonde93, all addressed I think, but I have a couple of queries. Here are my edits. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 08:17, 21 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support. One reply up above, but it's an easy fix. Vanamonde (Talk) 15:18, 21 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks again, added per your suggestion. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 22:49, 21 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@FAC coordinators: this one looks good to go, can I have dispensation for a fresh nom please? Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 22:50, 21 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sure PM, go ahead. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 23:09, 21 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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