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December 31[edit]

Vote for deletion[edit]

I'm verry new in wikipedia. I see in a wikipedia project that there are vote taking place for the deletion of varrious topic. How can I vote, and where would the debate take place about the vote ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Esurnir (talkcontribs)

Firstly, there isn't a vote, there is a discussion. A single compelling argument in one direction outweighs infinite simple statements of opinion on the other. What article's deletion would you like to discuss? All current debates art listed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. All those related to the Wikiproject you mentioned are listed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Warhammer 40,000 (currently none.) If you would like to dispute or support one of the articles listed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Warhammer 40,000 as being proposed for deletion then simply the project page directly. If you want to do anything else, then you'll have to ask more specifically. --Cherry blossom tree 01:21, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

,,,,, HELP,,,,  : }[edit]

I am an old dog learning new trix ,,,i have a story that i wrote in jail,, need help,, trying to get it to right people,, thanks Lucky from Alaska

What kind of story? Please note that Wikipedia doesn't allow original research; everything must be possible to reference to existing sources. Bjelleklang - talk 01:49, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Reversion of edits[edit]

There has to be a better place to ask this, but I'm asking here anyways. I just reverted edits on Glodok and Falun Gong outside China because it looked to me like vandalism. Did I do the right thing? On a different note, is there a better place to ask these kind of questions? --The Dark Side 02:24, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The first one would appear to be a copyvio, as the text was copied directly from the link given in the article, which would require it to be removed anyway. Also, deleting a non-existing image was also good, as it would only serve to confuse readers. Bjelleklang - talk 02:28, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
And yes, this is a perfectly good place to ask such questions. If you ever feel, in good faith, that an edit is vandalism, it is perfectly fine to revert it. However, if you are unsure if an edit is vandalism, you may want to ask the editor to clarify his/her intentions, or start a discussion on the article's talk page to make sure. —Keakealani 02:30, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you both. --The Dark Side 03:51, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

great britan[edit]

Who is the prime minister of great britan —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.246.150.228 (talk) 02:41, 31 December 2006 (UTC).[reply]

Prime Minister of the United Kingdom might be of use to you; as far as I know, the current one is Tony Blair. However, this question would be more appropriate for the Reference Desk, as this Help Desk is specifically for questions about using Wikipedia, not general knowledge questions. —Keakealani 03:16, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Holly Golightly[edit]

I wanted to edit the main section about Holly - she also sang two songs for the movie "Lost in Translation" 1) "There Is an End (Featuring Holly Golightly)" by The Greenhornes & Holly Golightly (can also be found on album Dual Mono) and 2) "Tell Me Now So I Know" by Holly Golightly (found on album "Truly She Is None Other"). I noticed that she wasn't listed on the soundtrack of the movie.

The only place I could find to edit was the discography and I didn't want to change that - so I wasn't sure how to proceed....04:31, 31 December 2006 (UTC)Whiff140

Did you try clicking the "edit this page" button at the top of the page? Maybe I've misinterpreted your question. Let me know on my talk page if you have any other questions or want to discuss anything. Peace, delldot | talk 05:35, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Complete quote of Wikipedia article[edit]

Is this okay for someone to do? I just noticed that the entire "Primal Therapy" article (minus a table) has been copied and republished online with Wikipedia acknowledged as the source[[1]]. GrahameKing 07:41, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it's perfectly okay. Please see the GNU Free Documentation License at the bottom of every Wikipedia page. --ElKevbo 07:50, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

text[edit]

How do I move text to the left and right of a page, thanks

†he Bread 08:35, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure what you mean. You can right align text using <div style="text-align:right">this notation</div>. If you want something else you'll have to ask more specifically. --Cherry blossom tree 14:29, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Unnamed question[edit]

I cant find an article. It was created sometime ago and is not on the deletion logs. It is aif it was never created. The title is AUDIOFORM. can you help?

The article was, indeed, deleted - you may have misspelled the name in the deletion log. —Keakealani 08:55, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Article names are case-sensitive; that means that you must type the exact article name to find it. For example, Example works but ExAmplE doesn't. --Joshua Chiew 10:41, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

New page[edit]

How do I create my own separate page on Wikipedia that has not yet been started?

See Help:Starting a new page. --Cherry blossom tree 14:25, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Where do I go / what do I do with this issue.[edit]

I've found that all of the smilies put in this template are in fact not GFDL and were not created by the sock puppet user Mystìc (of Lahiru k) but are the intellectual property of http://www.smileyworld.com/dictionary/categoryfaces.asp?cat=MoodExpressions. It seems tedious having to modify all those manually, and I wouldn't really know what their correct license is anyway. On the SmileyWorld website, it simply says “Smiley ® names, characters and all related indicia are licensed by SmileyWorld © 1971-2003 - All rights reserved.” (http://www.smileyworld.com/linktous/index.html)

Please guide me as to what do or where to go. Thanks. DarkPhoenix 15:52, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The smileys should be deleted as copyright infringements, and if not suitable replacements could be found, the template should be deleted as well. Bjelleklang - talk 16:28, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

image and then next header problem[edit]

Often if i have an image at the end of some text, and then a header for the next section below the header starts next to the image rather than below it. How do i solve this one?--GazMan7 17:49, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You can put {{-}} before the header to clear the margins, if it's really a problem. -Amarkov blahedits 17:54, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

placeopedia[edit]

trying to figure out links between wikipedia and google earth. there a wiki layer in ge, but no "link to ge" in wiki? so created a new link in placeopedia, but don't see it in ge (or wiki), ideas? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Harpert1 (talkcontribs) 18:03, 31 December 2006 (UTC).[reply]

Well, Google Earth is a computer program and not a website, so you can't make an external link to it. However, if you put the coordinates of a place in the article (example: Lombard Street (San Francisco)), clicking on this link will take you to a useful page allowing you to view the location using Google maps, Yahoo maps, etc. Regarding Placeopedia, I believe links are added there that link to Wikipedia, and not the other way around. Hope this helps. Dar-Ape 00:07, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

How many links?[edit]

How many links does an article need before it is nop longer considered an orphan> PRoy1956 18:31, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Per Wikipedia:Orphan, only articles with no links from other pages is an orphan (so, 1). -- Rick Block (talk) 18:37, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Although it's important to realise that you even though it technically results in de-orphaned articles, you shouldn't create a "walled garden" where a small group of articles link to each other with no incoming links. Confusing Manifestation 12:35, 1 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Can an article title start with a lower-case letter?[edit]

I tried creating an article titled "iCasualties.org", but the first letter was automatically capitalized (as in "ICasualties.org"). However, "iCasualties.org" is the correct name. Is there a way to create the article without having the first letter capitalized? Black Falcon 19:51, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Technically, all article titles on the English Wikipedia begin with a capital letter. However, it's possible to use the {{lowercase}} template to emulate a lower-case first letter. See iPod for an example. Cheers, Tangotango 19:56, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yes for example the article iPod is automatically created as IPod so what they have done is type {{lowercase|title=iPod}}. So you would change iPod to the title of your choice. — Arjun 19:58, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Many thanks to both of you! Black Falcon 20:04, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Trivia[edit]

Does Wikipedia have a trivia game? If not may I make a suggestion of the following:

Wikipedia is the perfect place for Trivia gamers. It should be called WikiTriv or Wikivia. Here is the basic rundown: 1. Members submit Trivia questions based on content in Wikipedia. 2. There should be three basic levels of expertise at the beginning - Jr. High / Sr. High / College Grad. 3. Each level should be numbered in question sequence eg 1-1000 with the question always remaining with it's assigned number so the players can keep track of those questions they have encountered. 4. Once a player has seen all 1000 questions and answers he/she becomes the moderator (Alex Trebek). 5. Points should be given for correct answers and half points should be taken away for incorrect answers. 6. To become a verified member of the Wiki Trivia organization members will register and contribute $5.00 and be given a special password and member number. 7. Yearly competition among members (of each level) will take place with prize money going to the winners. I have more ideas but this is the skeleton of the trivia game.


In an advanced version, answers should be in essay type detail with so many points for each detail item.

207.118.11.210 20:18, 31 December 2006 (UTC)mike m[reply]

This is not allowed under WP:NOT, which forbids games on Wikipedia. Though many people I know like to ignore that. DoomsDay349 21:10, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
You might be interested in Wikipedia:Department of Fun. User:Zoe|(talk) 22:23, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Since Wikipedia is free and open content under the GFDL, I don't think it would be permitted to charge money for access. And no Wikipedian would dream of doing such a thing. Yuser31415 02:24, 5 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image deletion[edit]

Ok, I feel bad about this because I asked a couple of months ago, but I can't remember. How do I delete an image I took? I believe it had the word "self" in it. Thanks! | AndonicO Talk | Sign Here 20:43, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You don't know the name of the image? Try here Theresa Knott | Taste the Korn 20:48, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think what he's asking is how to delete an image he has uploaded - the correct tag would be {{db-author}}. However, I'm not sure if there is a time duration with that, since other people may have since used/edited the image. —Keakealani 22:33, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
You can also find all the images you've uploaded from the upload log, accessed via the "special pages" link in the toolbox on the left (then click "logs"). Your upload history is here. -- Rick Block (talk) 23:20, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
{{db-author}} is what I was looking for; thanks! | AndonicO Talk | Sign Here 17:14, 1 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Personal testimony and documentation[edit]

A Wikipedia entry about a newspaper chain reports that a reporter won an ethics award after she resigned from the paper. She quit after being told that she could not write negative restaurant reviews.

This fall, I contacted an editor at the paper in an attempt to share with her my encounter with my congresswoman. The editor was not interested in any facts, but said that she would contact the congresswoman's office. I emailed her some facts anyway, and she requested that I cease.

The email messages that I sent to her consisted strictly of documents, not opinions. I do not wish to post those; however, I would like to post the email message that I sent to the paper's publisher after I received the email message from the editor. I did not get a response.

I have known many reporters, and they were all interested in "the facts". ["If your mother says she loves you check it out."] The paper later endorsed the congresswoman for reelection.

I think that it is important to note that an editor of a newspaper did not want to be bothered with the facts about a candidate that her paper endorsed. How should I do this or should I even bother.Jayzilla 21:06, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This is original research and has inherent POV problems. Sorry. --Wooty Woot? contribs 23:07, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Links deletion[edit]

If a wiki project antispam member refuses to allow any links at all on a web page as he sees it as spam and also refuses to take note of any discussion from other users is his view taken as final or can I keep adding the link back again as I think he is being totally unreasonable?Will my IP address be banned if I do? Why should one person decide what links are valuable and which not when he appears to have no knowledge of the subject matter at all and can I do anything about it?

Klodo123 23:02, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Depends on the link. You shouldn't keep adding and removing links back and forth, that's an edit war and you, or the other member, will probably get slapped with a 3RR violation. --Wooty Woot? contribs 23:09, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Talk to other members of the antispam project and make a case for why the link should be included bearing in mind WP:EL. - Mgm|(talk) 11:44, 1 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Generally speaking if the link violates/doesn't work with Wikipedia:External links it will always end up removed. I suggest you ask the remover what about that link made them remove it. 68.39.174.238 08:10, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Generating list of subpages[edit]

Is there a special page to locate a list of subpages? I'm trying to find one of mine the title I cannot quite remember. DoomsDay349 23:16, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's at Special:Prefixindex. Cheers! — Editor at Large(speak) 23:19, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Danka. DoomsDay349 23:19, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

getting out[edit]

In an idle moment I have typed my name out on the internet only to discover to my abject horror that a wikipedia page turns up with my name as title. I had hoped to help you by editing some glaring mistakes but very quickly came up against a barrage of prejudicial statements that were not correct. This led me to understand the nature of your organisation which is one that I would want nothing whatsoever to involve myself in. Having deleted the correspondence I discover that it simply comes up again. Basically I politely request that all trace of any numbers and my name including the title page be entirely deleted from your entire website. Yours sincerely —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.131.186.58 (talk) 23:41, 31 December 2006 (UTC).[reply]

I'll delete your userpage, per your request. Can't do anything about the search engine results, but those'll filter out when they update their caches, most likely. See m:Right to vanish. Luna Santin 23:46, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]